I registered yesterday, but no uploads..

They should restrict those with a high rejection rate but let those who have good quality images continue uploading.  Other sites are starting to do that.  I don't think halting uploads for all of us is a good decision.

Thanks for your patience, all I can say is it's a temporary pause, the resume date is not finalized - we are working to implement new methods for keeping things fair for everyone-  The message on the site pretty much should say it all - most people are reasonable enough to be selective about their uploads, a minority are not - and those people should not be taking away resources from you folks.       

The temporary pause also allows us to take a step back and measure site activity on the technical side - with the 'production line' shut down we can accurately do a checkup on system resources, which is a factor in how much 'juice' one member can be permitted.

Thanks - I'm looking forward to submitting my work so that we can help bring Zymmetrical up.
Do you care to share what approach you might take regarding limiting uploads?

Rejection percentages seem to be the way to go.. although people seemed to get grumpy about another agencies stab at this recently.     I personally never wanted to go this route, I always imagined we could overcome these issues through purely technical and not policy means.  There comes a point though where you can optimize a business process like photo reviews as much as you want, if it's not making an ROI then you are not in a business but a liability.   

There's just no room for hazy grey areas in business these days - the logistical costs of trying to manage submissions, where sometimes the members don't even respond to polite messages like 'hey, your rejection rate is getting up there, maybe slow down a bit, here's how you can improve' etc. is a central issue in scalability.   Adding some house rules is the only way to enforce playing fair, it can only be to the benefit of the good crowd. 

Indeed. This is true.
Thanks for the feedback

Chris

Thank you 

Although, it does seem that the server is down - I'm unable to access any server at zymmetrical.com domain - FTP or WEB.
Maybe all of a sudden you guys are being bombarded with traffic   

I'll be patient and wait - I know these things happen 

Thanks for your patience, all I can say is it's a temporary pause, the resume date is not finalized - we are working to implement new methods for keeping things fair for everyone-  The message on the site pretty much should say it all - most people are reasonable enough to be selective about their uploads, a minority are not - and those people should not be taking away resources from you folks.

My last upload was almost 2 months ago when I stopped uploading since my submitted queue was stuck then at 42 (with FTP uploads of January-February) and it's still like that now. The weird thing is that the later non-FTP uploads all passed. I lost already about 200 FTP uploads last year, that vanished in the hayes, and I really don't understand any more what's going on at Zym.

Three months or more in the approval queue seems a bit outlandish. There have been so many glitches before with the FTP, and now again with the 42 stuck for months (not one single cevapcici poo shot in it to be specific), that I totally lost track what Zymm has and what it hasn't. Now I learn here that the upload has been stopped for a minority uploading crap. I don't understand Zym any more. Do like DT, and set an upload limit according to approval ratio. This all seems like a total waste of reviewers resources.

All I notice is that the sum of rejects and approved is about half what I have at DT. The rest, I guess, is somewhere dangling in the Nirvana. I actually gave up silently the first week of April. I'll check again somewhere in August, but in the mean time I figure I'll start with Panthermedia. Those shots will be on Zymm anyways.

Rejection percentages seem to be the way to go.. although people seemed to get grumpy about another agencies stab at this recently.  

That would be me for one.  And I think my grumpy has almost nothing to do with limits.  I mean DT has limits, IS has limits and StockXpert has limits - and I've never ranted or raved or yelled about ANY of those limits.  Because they seem "fair."  DT counts all time but has an 80% mark to reach - that's fair.  IS has had theirs forever - that's fair.  StockXpert recently cut theirs in half and while I'm unhappy about it, it's fair.

What wasn't fair about Bigstock's move is that the % has been marked "experimental" for years.  Didn't count for, against, anything.  And it says "90 days" is the term they're judging but it's not true.  There was no warning and if you have been with BigStock for years, too bad your early stuff was rejected or you made mistakes while you learned this game because we're holding those against you for all time.

How I would approach this is simple:

1) announce the change.  "Starting May 21st..." about a week or two early.
2) make it make sense.  "Anyone with approvals under 80% are going to be subject to limitations."
3) make the limits MOVEable.  80% at 3000 images is a lot different than 80% at 30 images.  How fair is it that someone with 3000 approvals at 75% won't be able to upload at full speed for a YEAR while the guy with 80% at 30 can upload full speed tomorrow?  Who has helped your agency more?  So if your real concern is noobs uploading too much, keep the limits set for people under 1000 images, 2500 images, 5000 images - who cares - but some number that means something to you.  Sure, the people with 78% and 858 images will be mad.  They have 858/1100 though and another 150 good images puts them in range.  People at 850 images with 2000 submitted shouldn't get to complain.

That's what I'd do anyways.  It would be hard to get angry at an agency that warns you of a fair change coming that you can live with.  That's all we're asking.

Thanks for the feedback.. 

yer welcome - and thanks for listening.

I'll check again somewhere in August, but in the mean time I figure I'll start with Panthermedia. Those shots will be on Zymm anyways.

I just decided to go the other way round. I have all my port up on Panther already.
If it sells at Zymm for 50$ (which is the price that it is up for), than Zymm takes 40% of that for them (at least that is what the Panther site shows what they pay their partner agencies) and I'll get 30% of the remainder - in this example that means I'll get 9$ for the sale.

If I put the image up on Zymm directly it would be 35$ for the same sale.
Or I set the price at 15$, get 10,5$ and probably sell a lot more 

So I registered with Zymm and will start uploading my port...

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Upload doesn't work again for me!

After  upload my files aren't in describe section (still zero), why!?

For effective support, please supply at least your username on our system. Borg, yours was easy to figure out by looking at your portfolio link, Perseus, I wish I could help you but I don't know who you are at the moment.

So, Borg (sbotas) - there's only files pending review in your account.  In years of building this system I have never encountered an upload that does not finish, at least not without a noticeable error message on the user-side and in the error logs, they are either uploaded or not.  Was it by FTP or Flash Upload?

Perseus - if you have specific suggestions for improvements  on the submissions page, please post them on http://zymmetrical.uservoice.com.  It's just a form, we constantly change the reviewer-side interface according to their feedback, and do so for the members-side too, you just need to present a clear idea.
  I am not sure where the term "abusers" came up, did I call anyone that?  Believe me I know the limitations of our system, I have projects stacked up to make it easier for improving the submission process, it just takes time.   I am sorry you seem to have had trouble but the best thing to do if you think you've somehow submitted files you didn't mean to is to immediately contact support. It is easy to reverse, we just need to check the reviewers haven't already started tending to them.