Author Topic: Yaymicro - Legal solution ideas (Read 60411 times)

zsooofija · « **Reply #25 on:** January 27, 2021, 07:38 »

Today I got this reply form Yay:

"Ultimately it is your responsibility, not ours, to ensure the takedowns have happened. I am still investigating."

So, just so you know, if you delete your images from yay, it is YOUR responsibility to ensure that partner sites delete your images. Even though when you contact partners to ask for a deletion, they will tell you, they have a contract with Yay, not with you, so you should contact yay.

How convenient, right?

*UPDATE*
They told me, they have this in the contract, but their page of "Contributor Terms" is not working. Anyone has this contract so I can read it?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #26 on:** January 27, 2021, 08:34 »

Quote from: zsooofija on January 27, 2021, 07:38

Today I got this reply form Yay:

"Ultimately it is your responsibility, not ours, to ensure the takedowns have happened. I am still investigating."

So, just so you know, if you delete your images from yay, it is YOUR responsibility to ensure that partner sites delete your images. Even though when you contact partners to ask for a deletion, they will tell you, they have a contract with Yay, not with you, so you should contact yay.

How convenient, right?

I've been following your writing to them, the closing of your account and they still don't remove your photos. But this is over the top stupid on their part. Your responsibility for partner site take down. That's what they are trying to claim?

Please ask them for a list of all the partner sites so you can write and have your images removed. I'd like to see what they say. No agency tells us where our images are, and now they claim it's your responsibility?

From the start I thought the name was stupid also the branding and the posts seemed unprofessional from the start. Now new owners or managers or maybe not, since others find the same people up top. Was that all just some lie?

Oslo, Norway good luck. Their website is down right now, no it's back, pages are 404 Not Found and others just don't exist or load. Flaky as all heck.

zsooofija · « **Reply #27 on:** January 27, 2021, 08:50 »

Yes, they are just telling me it is in the contract (that it is the contributors' responsibility to remove images from partners).
Unfortunately I can not check that because contributor terms page is not working.
I asked for list of partner sites and also this contract so I can read it. Maybe they are writing it now, I don't know.
This is a bad joke.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #28 on:** January 27, 2021, 15:22 »

Quote from: zsooofija on January 27, 2021, 08:50

Yes, they are just telling me it is in the contract (that it is the contributors' responsibility to remove images from partners).
Unfortunately I can not check that because contributor terms page is not working.
I asked for list of partner sites and also this contract so I can read it. Maybe they are writing it now, I don't know.
This is a bad joke.

I have never seen or agreed to terms for the new site either. I have never seen the contributor terms show anything but a broken link actually (and that's for many weeks since I found out they had my inages). This is a totally different level than usual agency "unfairness" or whatever. It is absolutely criminal IMHO.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #29 on:** January 27, 2021, 15:29 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on January 27, 2021, 08:34

Quote from: zsooofija on January 27, 2021, 07:38
Today I got this reply form Yay:

"Ultimately it is your responsibility, not ours, to ensure the takedowns have happened. I am still investigating."

So, just so you know, if you delete your images from yay, it is YOUR responsibility to ensure that partner sites delete your images. Even though when you contact partners to ask for a deletion, they will tell you, they have a contract with Yay, not with you, so you should contact yay.

How convenient, right?

I've been following your writing to them, the closing of your account and they still don't remove your photos. But this is over the top stupid on their part. Your responsibility for partner site take down. That's what they are trying to claim?

Please ask them for a list of all the partner sites so you can write and have your images removed. I'd like to see what they say. No agency tells us where our images are, and now they claim it's your responsibility?

From the start I thought the name was stupid also the branding and the posts seemed unprofessional from the start. Now new owners or managers or maybe not, since others find the same people up top. Was that all just some lie?

Oslo, Norway good luck. Their website is down right now, no it's back, pages are 404 Not Found and others just don't exist or load. Flaky as all heck.

They genuinely have a new (much worse) owner based in the US. He is Grant Baker, the company now has a shell based in Hong Kong, not Norway. I guess to either avoid tax, avoid being sued for all the copyright infringement, or both. You can find reps from new management on appsumo telling buyers they are fine reselling content they license on the site as long as they get an EL for $1.71

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #30 on:** January 27, 2021, 15:32 »

Looks like they are just opening another unlimited subscription site called unlimphotos too, just googled his name and yayimages

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #31 on:** January 27, 2021, 16:18 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on January 27, 2021, 15:32

Looks like they are just opening another unlimited subscription site called unlimphotos too, just googled his name and yayimages

If anyone starts uploading to Yay after this, can we have permission to shout vulgar names at them? Want to see how bad this is?

"UnlimPhotos Lifetime Deal
Home of million high quality and royalty free stock images!
A diverse collection of premium images to compel your audience with creativity to life.
$29.99
Value $495.00/year"

Look at the spelling? Can anyone bet that SS will be all over this for using a icon that looks like the SS icon?

Pricing - https://unlimphotos.com/pricing.html

Free
Download up to 30 free tier images per day

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #32 on:** January 27, 2021, 16:25 »

And it looks like they have ported over the whole yay catalogue with no permission from contributors...

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #33 on:** January 27, 2021, 17:12 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on January 27, 2021, 16:25

And it looks like they have ported over the whole yay catalogue with no permission from contributors...

Good luck everyone I hope you can get some legal action to protect your your images from this abuse.

WaterView · « **Reply #34 on:** January 27, 2021, 20:30 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on January 27, 2021, 16:18

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on January 27, 2021, 15:32
Looks like they are just opening another unlimited subscription site called unlimphotos too, just googled his name and yayimages

If anyone starts uploading to Yay after this, can we have permission to shout vulgar names at them? Want to see how bad this is?

"UnlimPhotos Lifetime Deal
Home of million high quality and royalty free stock images!
A diverse collection of premium images to compel your audience with creativity to life.
$29.99

With also two posts above this it sounds really bad. Sold to some other company and another way we were not being told how our images were sold.
Value $495.00/year"

Look at the spelling? Can anyone bet that SS will be all over this for using a icon that looks like the SS icon?

Pricing - https://unlimphotos.com/pricing.html

Free
Download up to 30 free tier images per day

The new unlimphotos has my whole port from yayimages. OMG. Glad I didn't send them most of my videos too! Just didn't seem right. Now they are sold with no notification.
I think I may remove my port as with all the bad stuff coming up about this, I think it's time to go.

WaterView · « **Reply #35 on:** January 27, 2021, 20:33 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on January 27, 2021, 17:12

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on January 27, 2021, 16:25
And it looks like they have ported over the whole yay catalogue with no permission from contributors...

Good luck everyone I hope you can get some legal action to protect your your images from this abuse.

What are your ideas to take legal action against any image agencies that don't remove our images in any county besides what was mentioned? Thanks

zsooofija · « **Reply #36 on:** January 28, 2021, 04:54 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on January 27, 2021, 15:29

Quote from: Uncle Pete on January 27, 2021, 08:34
Quote from: zsooofija on January 27, 2021, 07:38
Today I got this reply form Yay:

"Ultimately it is your responsibility, not ours, to ensure the takedowns have happened. I am still investigating."

So, just so you know, if you delete your images from yay, it is YOUR responsibility to ensure that partner sites delete your images. Even though when you contact partners to ask for a deletion, they will tell you, they have a contract with Yay, not with you, so you should contact yay.

How convenient, right?

I've been following your writing to them, the closing of your account and they still don't remove your photos. But this is over the top stupid on their part. Your responsibility for partner site take down. That's what they are trying to claim?

Please ask them for a list of all the partner sites so you can write and have your images removed. I'd like to see what they say. No agency tells us where our images are, and now they claim it's your responsibility?

From the start I thought the name was stupid also the branding and the posts seemed unprofessional from the start. Now new owners or managers or maybe not, since others find the same people up top. Was that all just some lie?

Oslo, Norway good luck. Their website is down right now, no it's back, pages are 404 Not Found and others just don't exist or load. Flaky as all heck.
They genuinely have a new (much worse) owner based in the US. He is Grant Baker, the company now has a shell based in Hong Kong, not Norway. I guess to either avoid tax, avoid being sued for all the copyright infringement, or both. You can find reps from new management on appsumo telling buyers they are fine reselling content they license on the site as long as they get an EL for $1.71

On their contact page there is still an office in Norway, so I was thinking if I don't get my earnings in a couple of days I will try and make a complaint at the Consumer Counsil of Norway, I really don't have any other idea what can be done.

changingsky · « **Reply #37 on:** January 28, 2021, 06:21 »

I have closed my account with Yay years ago.
Courage, guys.

zsooofija · « **Reply #38 on:** January 28, 2021, 07:22 »

Quote from: changingsky on January 28, 2021, 06:21

I have closed my account with Yay years ago.
Courage, guys.

Thanks!
Me too.
Did you make sure they deleted your work from all partners? According to their non-existing contributor contract it is YOUR responsibility.

cathyslife · « **Reply #39 on:** January 28, 2021, 08:25 »

Quote from: changingsky on January 28, 2021, 06:21

I have closed my account with Yay years ago.
Courage, guys.

You have to read the whole thread in order to make a relevant comment.

Courage isn’t the problem.

changingsky · « **Reply #40 on:** January 28, 2021, 12:57 »

Quote from: zsooofija on January 28, 2021, 07:22

Quote from: changingsky on January 28, 2021, 06:21
I have closed my account with Yay years ago.
Courage, guys.

Thanks!
Me too.
Did you make sure they deleted your work from all partners? According to their non-existing contributor contract it is YOUR responsibility.

Partially. Didn't find my images.

Andri · « **Reply #41 on:** January 28, 2021, 13:34 »

Does anyone know all their partner sites?

zsooofija · « **Reply #42 on:** January 29, 2021, 07:21 »

Quote from: Andri on January 28, 2021, 13:34

Does anyone know all their partner sites?

This is part of the eümail I got back in 2016:

"Most of our partners are connected via the API, so when we deleted your account they can't download the images anymore. The only exception are Alamy and Agefotostock, of which both have received notification of deletion."

Unfortunately I believe that there are more now, but they refuse to give me the list, or the contributor contract so at least we can read that.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #43 on:** January 29, 2021, 07:40 »

Do they pay out even below the treshold if I close my account now?

Andri · « **Reply #44 on:** January 30, 2021, 16:46 »

Quote from: Noedelhap on January 29, 2021, 07:40

Do they pay out even below the treshold if I close my account now?

Good question, I would like to know that too.

zsooofija · « **Reply #45 on:** February 01, 2021, 08:07 »

The Contributor Terms are finally available on their website:
https://contributors.yayimages.com/documentation/terms
It says nothing about the payment (if they pay or not after closing the account), and it also says it was last modified in 2012.

"YAY does not take responsibility if an image has been marked for deletion, and is still available for sales either on yaymicro.com or any partner site. It is the contributors responsibility to make sure the image has in fact been removed."

So it does say in the contract it is OUR responsibility to ask partners to delete the images (too bad their partners have no idea about this and they tell you they have a contract with Yay not with you as a contributor). Very convenient for everyone except the contributor.

There is also an other interesting part:
"Any dispute should first be attempted solved between the parties involved, if unsuccessful, the legal venue will be Oslo City Court."

Microstock Posts · « **Reply #46 on:** February 01, 2021, 08:35 »

Quote from: Andri on January 30, 2021, 16:46

Quote from: Noedelhap on January 29, 2021, 07:40
Do they pay out even below the treshold if I close my account now?

Good question, I would like to know that too.

I asked this question on numerous occasions to different emails of theirs and never received a reply.

So I wrote about the experience.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #47 on:** February 01, 2021, 10:13 »

Quote from: zsooofija on February 01, 2021, 08:07

...and it also says it was last modified in 2012. ...

LOL, yeah, sure it was

zsooofija · « **Reply #48 on:** February 01, 2021, 10:19 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on February 01, 2021, 10:13

Quote from: zsooofija on February 01, 2021, 08:07
...and it also says it was last modified in 2012. ...

LOL, yeah, sure they were

Exactly my thoughts. Unfortunately there is no way to check, and they know it.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #49 on:** February 01, 2021, 13:19 »

Quote from: Andri on January 30, 2021, 16:46

Quote from: Noedelhap on January 29, 2021, 07:40
Do they pay out even below the treshold if I close my account now?

Good question, I would like to know that too.

Quote from: Microstock Posts on February 01, 2021, 08:35

Quote from: Andri on January 30, 2021, 16:46
Quote from: Noedelhap on January 29, 2021, 07:40
Do they pay out even below the treshold if I close my account now?

Good question, I would like to know that too.

I asked this question on numerous occasions to different emails of theirs and never received a reply.

So I wrote about the experience.

Received a reply this weekend, not surprisingly it's exactly the answer I didn't want to hear:

"Hi
You would forfeit any earnings accumulated, by closing your account. Additionally the files are permanently deleted and you could not reopen the account at a later time.
Kind regards"

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