Author Topic: Decided to remove 50% from my portfolio at videohive (Read 9501 times)

Ronib · « **on:** January 02, 2016, 09:52 »

I removed all my hd files since they sell the hd files with 8$ and i get only 3$ while at videoblocks i get 42$ fot the same file.
I have to say that i had decent sales at videohive but i think that they are doing damage to the stock industry with such low prices. I think maybe to remove all my portfolio since they charge 4k files with only 25$.
But i will wait with such a drastic move.
What do you think?

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Tror · « **Reply #1 on:** January 02, 2016, 10:31 »

Good. Submitting to Videohive is like a commercial suicide to a videographer. Beyond that, Envatos business practices are highly questionable and might bring you legal trouble depending on your country of residence.

trek · « **Reply #2 on:** January 02, 2016, 12:56 »

Low pricing and pathetic return per download is why I never uploaded there.

StefC · « **Reply #3 on:** October 28, 2017, 08:15 »

Yeah, me too.
I mean, they sell HD videos for 8 dollars?? 25 for 4K video (which cost 4 or 6 times more on all other agencies)?!

Why should we practically give our videos away for free? And yeah, I'm sure they have quite a lot of sales... But we receive next to nothing!

Noedelhap · « **Reply #4 on:** October 28, 2017, 08:58 »

Quote from: Ronib on January 02, 2016, 09:52

I removed all my hd files since they sell the hd files with 8$ and i get only 3$ while at videoblocks i get 42$ fot the same file.
I have to say that i had decent sales at videohive but i think that they are doing damage to the stock industry with such low prices. I think maybe to remove all my portfolio since they charge 4k files with only 25$.
But i will wait with such a drastic move.
What do you think?

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I think you should remove your entire portfolio. Videohive (and basically Envato as a whole) damages the industry. Selling quality content for these low prices is just laughable. I don't understand why anyone would shoot themselves (and fellow artists) in the foot by selling for cheap.

Meanwhile, Envato screwed up with the whole 'we're not an agency, we're a marketplace' crap just so they wouldn't be responsible for the taxes (which resulted in lots of legal hassles for contributors in Europe) and more recently their commission cuts.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #5 on:** October 28, 2017, 14:18 »

Quote from: Noedelhap on October 28, 2017, 08:58

Selling quality content for these low prices is just laughable.

Just out of curiosity, may I ask what you paid for your quality editing software? Something that cost millions of dollars to develop. Surely, over $100,000? $200,000?

Then you have the self-proclaimed high pricing "gurus" with 20,000+ clips who go 4 days without sales at P5. Now THAT is laughable. 20,000 clips and multiple days with zero sales? Maybe, just maybe, prices are too high...

Noedelhap · « **Reply #6 on:** October 29, 2017, 10:30 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on October 28, 2017, 14:18

Quote from: Noedelhap on October 28, 2017, 08:58
Selling quality content for these low prices is just laughable.

Just out of curiosity, may I ask what you paid for your quality editing software? Something that cost millions of dollars to develop. Surely, over $100,000? $200,000?

Then you have the self-proclaimed high pricing "gurus" with 20,000+ clips who go 4 days without sales at P5. Now THAT is laughable. 20,000 clips and multiple days with zero sales? Maybe, just maybe, prices are too high...

I have an Adobe CC subscription, I pay $65 / month.

Prices are too high? What is too high for one customer may be very affordable for another customer. In my experience, most customers are willing to pay more than $8 for a quality HD video. Maybe some "gurus" who price their files higher than most are indeed overplaying their hand, but it all depends on quality-price balance.

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #7 on:** October 29, 2017, 10:56 »

My point is of course that the price isn't what's important, it's earnings per clip per month that counts.

That's why you only pay $65 per month for Adobe CC, and not $100,000.

Of course, there's both a lower and an upper limit, but since I'm getting 3-5 times better payoff per clip per month at a certain site compared to P5, my personal conclusion is that it's at a pretty good point.

$199 for 4k might have been a good price 5 years ago, when it was uncommon, but times change, and now it isn't uncommon anymore. Demand has also changed A LOT these last 5 years with an enormous increase in the market for footage for customers with small budgets. That market didn't exist before.

You don't price based on what your camera costs, or how much your flight to Australia cost. You price to try to maximize profits, and if there are 20,000 people willing to pay $low, and only 100 willing to pay $high, it's better to price $low.

If you have something absolutely unique, by all means price high. But I'm willing to bet that 99% of all clips from all of us at this forum and elsewhere are not very unique at all.

Times change. How many CDs do you think sell for $18 today?

jonbull · « **Reply #8 on:** April 15, 2018, 12:05 »

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on October 29, 2017, 10:56

My point is of course that the price isn't what's important, it's earnings per clip per month that counts.

That's why you only pay $65 per month for Adobe CC, and not $100,000.

Of course, there's both a lower and an upper limit, but since I'm getting 3-5 times better payoff per clip per month at a certain site compared to P5, my personal conclusion is that it's at a pretty good point.

$199 for 4k might have been a good price 5 years ago, when it was uncommon, but times change, and now it isn't uncommon anymore. Demand has also changed A LOT these last 5 years with an enormous increase in the market for footage for customers with small budgets. That market didn't exist before.

You don't price based on what your camera costs, or how much your flight to Australia cost. You price to try to maximize profits, and if there are 20,000 people willing to pay $low, and only 100 willing to pay $high, it's better to price $low.

If you have something absolutely unique, by all means price high. But I'm willing to bet that 99% of all clips from all of us at this forum and elsewhere are not very unique at all.

Times change. How many CDs do you think sell for $18 today?