Author Topic: SB tries the 'ole "partner sales" game (Read 17845 times)

Sean Locke Photography · « **on:** January 23, 2018, 13:22 »

FYI: https://contribute.storyblocks.com/third-party-platforms

"A share of each sale will go to the platform host (this will vary for each integration). You earn 60% of the revenue we collect from Third Party Platform sales. "

ie: We aren't going to tell you how little what we collect will actually be. But you'll get 60%!

Don't worry, though. You'll make it up in volume.

"By participating in this sales channel you are taking the opportunity to increase your sales exponentially."

Sstr · « **Reply #1 on:** January 23, 2018, 15:04 »

60% of HD $18 and 4k $79

Photobomb · « **Reply #2 on:** January 23, 2018, 15:07 »

Well at least we are opted-out by default.

qwerty · « **Reply #3 on:** January 23, 2018, 15:24 »

exponentially !! surely that sounds good.

trucic · « **Reply #4 on:** January 23, 2018, 15:27 »

... and after 30% less on ALL sales for us from non-treaty countries, it will be like paid with peanuts for HD and two for 4K...

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #5 on:** January 23, 2018, 15:34 »

Question - maybe I am missing something... (I actually did opt-in)...

Isn't something better than nothing... or... by optin in - are you now effectively competing with yourself?

My thinking was it is an extra market that you weren't in before... even if the $ isn't as much - if I make a sale, a sale is still a sale, and I can/could still get sales from the main platform... or, is there something I am missing here?

Thanks!

Mantis · « **Reply #6 on:** January 23, 2018, 16:25 »

The question is can you opt in then opt back out if the numbers are crummy.

Brasilnut · « **Reply #7 on:** January 23, 2018, 17:05 »

There's a saying in Portuguese, "Quem entra na chuva é pra se molhar "

Roughly it translates, "Whoever goes out into the rain should expect to get wet".

I opted in.

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #8 on:** January 23, 2018, 18:15 »

Quote from: Mantis on January 23, 2018, 16:25

The question is can you opt in then opt back out if the numbers are crummy.

Yes, according to their license, you just contact them and tell them you want to opt-out if you don't like it.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #9 on:** January 24, 2018, 02:02 »

From my understanding there is a minimum payout per sale, or am I misunderstanding the tables?

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #10 on:** January 24, 2018, 02:17 »

The minimum payout is 60% of whatever's left after the third party has taken their cut from the minimum price of $19. But as they've not stated what the cut is for the third party (Unless I've missed it) then our minimum payout could be anywhere from 1 cent to $11.40.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #11 on:** January 24, 2018, 03:39 »

The price floors and percentages seem quite good when compared to other similar schemes at least. This worries me less than the overall business model of Storyblocks being discussed in the other thread.

ccbcc · « **Reply #12 on:** January 24, 2018, 05:42 »

Are you guys opting in? 60% from $19 seems awfully low.

spike · « **Reply #13 on:** January 24, 2018, 05:46 »

Quote from: ccbcc on January 24, 2018, 05:42

Are you guys opting in? 60% from $19 seems awfully low.

Of course not. I don't value my work very high, but I value it enough not to put it on istock, dreamstime, or in this partner program.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #14 on:** January 24, 2018, 05:47 »

Well $19 is the minimum... goes up to $199 for 4K. And 60% is better than 0% I guess.

spike · « **Reply #15 on:** January 24, 2018, 06:03 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on January 24, 2018, 05:47

Well $19 is the minimum... goes up to $199 for 4K. And 60% is better than 0% I guess.

So is 1% #thumbs_up

Video-StockOrg · « **Reply #16 on:** January 24, 2018, 06:35 »

60% from $33 we usually got from HD sales would now be... $19,8 ?? Soon it will be in the iShit domain of $4

Supporting Videoblocks/Storyblocks is like spitting in own grave.

Mantis · « **Reply #17 on:** January 24, 2018, 08:37 »

SB says there is minimum pricing. https://contribute.storyblocks.com/faq/pricing-commission I didn't see anything about "negotiated" pricing, not that it can't (won't happen). But as their current third party FAQ is written and presented, it looks like there are minimum $$ a customer will have to pay, unless I'm not reading the email right. They state: *This is the guaranteed price floor. Pricing is variable and may be higher based on the platform or the customer needs.

stockastic · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2018, 10:43 »

"Exponentially". LOL LOL

I'd bet a dollar whoever is running this scam - er, "agency" - doesn't even really know what "exponentially" means.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2018, 10:55 »

Quote from: Mantis on January 24, 2018, 08:37

SB says there is minimum pricing. https://contribute.storyblocks.com/faq/pricing-commission I didn't see anything about "negotiated" pricing, not that it can't (won't happen). But as their current third party FAQ is written and presented, it looks like there are minimum $$ a customer will have to pay, unless I'm not reading the email right. They state: *This is the guaranteed price floor. Pricing is variable and may be higher based on the platform or the customer needs.

That's fine for the other two sale types... as they're a fixed percentage of a minimum sale price. So unless they change anything, you know how much you're going to get.

The issue here is it's 60% of the minimum sale price after the third party has taken their cut... and they've not said how much that will be.

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2018, 14:13 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on January 24, 2018, 10:55

The issue here is it's 60% of the minimum sale price after the third party has taken their cut... and they've not said how much that will be.

I thought it looked OK since the prices are not too low (compared to many other sites). But I hadn't thought about it being after the distributor taking an unspecified cut off the top - thanks for pointing that out.

Mantis · « **Reply #21 on:** January 24, 2018, 14:24 »

Quote from: sgoodwin4813 on January 24, 2018, 14:13

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on January 24, 2018, 10:55
The issue here is it's 60% of the minimum sale price after the third party has taken their cut... and they've not said how much that will be.

I thought it looked OK since the prices are not too low (compared to many other sites). But I hadn't thought about it being after the distributor taking an unspecified cut off the top - thanks for pointing that out.

This is only assumed. Their site clearly says floor pricing. They do not say further erosion through heavy discounting as space suggests. Otherwise, why even have a third party pricing scheme since the prices are the same as market. Just say that there will be discounting off the market pricing. They didnt do that. They created a new floor pricing for third party. Now, i am not in the know, so anything could happen. I basing my feedback on what their site currently says.

StockbyNumbers · « **Reply #22 on:** January 24, 2018, 14:52 »

Opted-In to test but am skeptical of the "exponential" claim as well. Although sales have been pretty stagnant the last few months so theoretically might not be that hard to achieve "exponential" growth for a little while...

If they are talking about programs like Premiere and Final Cut as third party platforms, I've never really seen the appeal as an editor of being able to search for things within the program rather than just going online. A few other editors I've talked to had similar thoughts. Prefer to keep plugins, open windows in workspaces etc. to a minimum to avoid crashes.

Any idea what other platforms they might be talking about?

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #23 on:** January 24, 2018, 15:49 »

Why not..... send an e-mail and ask?

Fairplay · « **Reply #24 on:** January 24, 2018, 16:04 »

I'm definitely opt-out!
I was very suspicious from the beginning of SB because of the Graphicstocks policy. They already started with the bulls***s. I don't expect nothing good from them and even plan to remove my portfolio!

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