Author Topic: Bad things about to happen ... (Read 64477 times)

Freedom · « **Reply #50 on:** November 02, 2009, 21:40 »

Thanks for the reminder, Lisa. Maybe it explains my situation.

Today I had no sales at StockXpert whatsoever, plus they rejected all my pending files for "thanks but we are not interested". Normally I would have sales everyday including weekends. So is bad thing happening?

Quote from: lisafx on November 02, 2009, 20:39

So today's the big day. Supposedly they are already in the process of removing the StockXpert content from Photos.com.

Personally, I have had sales on both Photos and JIU today, and from what I can see doing searches for my images, they appear to be there still as of 8:37pm EST.

Tomorrow (Tuesday 11/3) I am assuming all those images will be gone. I plan to do searches when I wake up.

Will be interesting to see if they finally follow through on their plan, and to watch the fallout. Still having a hard time believing they will actually implement this.

On a more positive note, I had an exceptionally high number of credit sales on StockXpert today

Pixart · « **Reply #51 on:** November 02, 2009, 23:25 »

10pm Central, can't get StockXpert to load and have no photos on Photos.com (still on JI though).

RacePhoto · « **Reply #52 on:** November 03, 2009, 01:29 »

Quote from: Pixart on November 02, 2009, 23:25

10pm Central, can't get StockXpert to load and have no photos on Photos.com (still on JI though).

Darn, and I just uploaded ten new photos this morning, which were approved less than 12 hours later. Sure sign that the end is near?

qwerty · « **Reply #53 on:** November 03, 2009, 02:40 »

my photos were still on photos.com just then

gostwyck · « **Reply #54 on:** November 03, 2009, 06:06 »

Mine are still there too. Of course it is possible that images might still apppear on searches but, if you had a subscription, the download itself might be blocked.

Xalanx · « **Reply #55 on:** November 03, 2009, 06:11 »

I have downloads from Photos.com today.

peresanz · « **Reply #56 on:** November 03, 2009, 06:44 »

I've just had 4 in a row from Jupiter and a couple from Photos.com

gostwyck · « **Reply #57 on:** November 03, 2009, 07:02 »

Quote from: peresanz on November 03, 2009, 06:44

I've just had 4 in a row from Jupiter and a couple from Photos.com

Don't forget there's a lag in reporting sales from JIU/PC. They are reported through the next day all at the same time just after 4am. We have to wait until tomorrow to see if we get any sales today.

dirkr · « **Reply #58 on:** November 03, 2009, 09:01 »

I had sales from both photos.com and JIU yesterday, but when I clicked on one of my files on photos.com there is a line in red saying:
"Alert: This image will not be available to download or license after November 2. "

That seems clear enough to me...

sharpshot · « **Reply #59 on:** November 03, 2009, 10:50 »

Mine are still selling on photos.com, perhaps it is November 2 2010

lisafx · « **Reply #60 on:** November 03, 2009, 10:56 »

Quote from: gostwyck on November 03, 2009, 07:02

Quote from: peresanz on November 03, 2009, 06:44

I've just had 4 in a row from Jupiter and a couple from Photos.com

Don't forget there's a lag in reporting sales from JIU/PC. They are reported through the next day all at the same time just after 4am. We have to wait until tomorrow to see if we get any sales today.

I have had quite a few sales on both sites today. I guess you are right and we will have to wait until tomorrow to know for sure what's happening.

FWIW my images are still showing on Photos.com and appear to be available for download in spite of the note saying they won't be as of yesterday... $:-\$

cathyslife · « **Reply #61 on:** November 03, 2009, 12:12 »

I've had StockXpert sales yesterday and today but no photos.com or jupiter sales since mid Oct. I also notice that my files are not getting inspected as quickly as they were. I still have a batch from last week that I uploaded that are still sitting there. In the past, they were reviewed in a day or two. Hmmm...

vonkara · « **Reply #62 on:** November 03, 2009, 12:30 »

I stopped uploading to StockXpert 5 months ago and I have opted out from photos.com last month. Since then I had my best month this year only from StockXpert credit sales.

I thought that StockXpert was a dead agency until I opted out of subs. It seem there is still buyers that have load of credits in their wallet, but just like better taking all images available at sub prices.

PowerDroid · « **Reply #63 on:** November 03, 2009, 12:42 »

I upload two images a day to StockXpert, and typically they were always reviewed within a day or two. For the past few weeks, those two dialy uploads accumulated until I had 24 awaiting review. They were finally all reviewed (approved!) yesterday morning, so they're definitely still reviewing and approving, if much slower than usual.

As for Photos.com and JUI, I've continued to see sales there everyday, with no sign of a slowdown. Many showed up in my account breakdown today, but like others are saying, the true test will be what shows up tomorrow.

b79 · « **Reply #64 on:** November 03, 2009, 12:51 »

apparently they postponed the removal for 10 days. now it reads:

Quote

Alert: This image will not be available to download or license after November 12.

gostwyck · « **Reply #65 on:** November 03, 2009, 12:55 »

^^^ Wow __ that's happened in just the last few hours!

RacePhoto · « **Reply #66 on:** November 03, 2009, 13:31 »

Quote from: PowerDroid on November 03, 2009, 12:42

I upload two images a day to StockXpert, and typically they were always reviewed within a day or two. For the past few weeks, those two dialy uploads accumulated until I had 24 awaiting review. They were finally all reviewed (approved!) yesterday morning, so they're definitely still reviewing and approving, if much slower than usual.

As for Photos.com and JUI, I've continued to see sales there everyday, with no sign of a slowdown. Many showed up in my account breakdown today, but like others are saying, the true test will be what shows up tomorrow.

Must have been lucky that I hit "review day"

My attitude about the whole thing is, I'm tired of watching how the "sky is falling" in messages, since June, when they announced, maybe 90 days. For those counting it's been over 150 days of gloom and doom, and "my downloads stopped yesterday".

With all the predictions, someone is bound to be right about the future. We've had five months to make wild guesses or intelligent assumptions.

What I'm really waiting for is something to actually change at StockXpert. If it's good, then fine, if negative, well that's life. Tired of, something is going to happen soon and how it's going to be bad. At this point I just want it over with.

lisafx · « **Reply #67 on:** November 03, 2009, 16:41 »

Quote from: b79 on November 03, 2009, 12:51

apparently they postponed the removal for 10 days. now it reads:

Quote
Alert: This image will not be available to download or license after November 12.

I think Racephoto is on to something. This is starting to sound like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. They keep threatening but no action.

I would love to be a fly on the wall at Getty/Photos.com when they are discussing this. Or more likely fielding calls from irate subscription holders who will be leaving the site once the good content is gone

Gizeh · « **Reply #68 on:** November 05, 2009, 12:37 »

A link to the leaked internal memo from Jonathan Klein has been posted earlier in this thread. I find the following part especially interesting:

"Jupiterimages Unlimited brings a very good base from which to start, but we will create an entirely new subscription business that builds upon it. This new subscription product will be a major initiative, with significant marketing support. It also represents a major collaboration between Getty Images and iStockphoto. "

Looks like we don't need to puzzle anymore about how Getty will feed the subscription beast. The only remaining question is: Will Getty come up with a fair deal or at least keep the opt-out option for contributors? Or will all contributors be forced into a rip-off deal?

ichiro17 · « **Reply #69 on:** November 05, 2009, 12:45 »

Quote from: Gizeh on November 05, 2009, 12:37

A link to the leaked internal memo from Jonathan Klein has been posted earlier in this thread. I find the following part especially interesting:

"Jupiterimages Unlimited brings a very good base from which to start, but we will create an entirely new subscription business that builds upon it. This new subscription product will be a major initiative, with significant marketing support. It also represents a major collaboration between Getty Images and iStockphoto. "

Looks like we don't need to puzzle anymore about how Getty will feed the subscription beast. The only remaining question is: Will Getty come up with a fair deal or at least keep the opt-out option for contributors? Or will all contributors be forced into a rip-off deal?

I think the current outlines are very good. Automatically inserted into the sub program if you have a file 18 months or older and no downloads, and anything less than 18 months will not be allowed in and you can choose the 18 month and older items with downloads to go or stay

The way it seems to be unfolding (minus the slow rollout) looks very strategic and very well intended

lisafx · « **Reply #70 on:** November 05, 2009, 12:57 »

Quote from: Gizeh on November 05, 2009, 12:37

Looks like we don't need to puzzle anymore about how Getty will feed the subscription beast. The only remaining question is: Will Getty come up with a fair deal or at least keep the opt-out option for contributors? Or will all contributors be forced into a rip-off deal?

If you have followed the threads on istock about this, you will know that this is ground that has already been well covered. Many istock exclusives were not at all enthusiastic about selling cheap subs and staged a revolt when istock tried to force them into Photos.com. The resulting compromise was, as Ichiro correctly points out, only exclusive content 18 mos. and older is eligible.

Independents can opt in all their content through istock, but since they are lowballing us by only offering .25 instead of the .30 we got through StockXpert, I don't know a single independent who is opting in.

Bottom line is they are losing millions of top quality images through StockXpert and haven't managed to come up with a way to replace those via istock.

Which explains why the date keeps getting pushed back...

Gizeh · « **Reply #71 on:** November 05, 2009, 13:40 »

Quote from: lisafx on November 05, 2009, 12:57

If you have followed the threads on istock about this, you will know that this is ground that has already been well covered.

So what is your interpretation of the Klein quote? Just one more executive with his head in the clouds?

Don't forget: Subscriptions are much more profitable for agencies than single sales. Getty will try every dirty trick to bring as much contributors as possible into this model.

michaeldb · « **Reply #72 on:** November 05, 2009, 13:58 »

Quote from: lisafx on November 05, 2009, 12:57

Which explains why the date keeps getting pushed back...

Has it been officially been pushed back again? I was expecting zeroes for my JIU-Photos.com sales on StockXpert post-Nov.3 but instead I have had two of my best days ever. I can't find anything recent about this on the StockXpert or IS forums.

lisafx · « **Reply #73 on:** November 05, 2009, 14:00 »

Quote from: michaeldb on November 05, 2009, 13:58

Quote from: lisafx on November 05, 2009, 12:57
Which explains why the date keeps getting pushed back...
Has it been officially been pushed back again?

If you check your images on photos.com they now say they will be deactivated on the 12th.

vonkara · « **Reply #74 on:** November 05, 2009, 14:21 »

What they are trying to do by deactivating all StockXpert images from photos.com, I don't get it ? Now they add the worst of Istock images to photos.com. This make no sense I think...

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