Author Topic: Zero sales of new files (Read 31229 times)

trucic · « **Reply #100 on:** November 17, 2019, 11:57 »

... 10-12USD is not enough, but you are able to pay only that much... just open agency in Belgrade for at least 10 years and became reach without doing Microstock for living...

jonbull · « **Reply #101 on:** November 17, 2019, 12:03 »

Quote from: trucic on November 17, 2019, 11:57

... 10-12USD is not enough, but you are able to pay only that much... just open agency in Belgrade for at least 10 years and became reach without doing Microstock for living...

is not enough for who? fo what...you live in poor country with a salary of 250 dollar minimum...10 12 dollar is not enough? maybe you should begin shooting model as you live in that country so you stopped complaining in ss forum that you don't sell nothing or somebody as switched off our ports so you can be rich.

trucic · « **Reply #102 on:** November 17, 2019, 12:03 »

... and leave your gear at home, if possible... you will buy all you need at much lower prices...

jonbull · « **Reply #103 on:** November 17, 2019, 12:05 »

Quote from: trucic on November 17, 2019, 12:03

... and leave your gear at home, if possible... you will buy all you need at much lower prices...

actually gear in that places cost a lot that's why most buy abroad. so i should stop shooting lifestyle cause thousand of mediocre photographer from easter europe are overflowing the agency with the same files with same models because they can live with 10000 dollar and model cost nothing? ahaha no way. next year i will even pay somebody for shooting for me..clearly penny,.. war is war. commercial war is commercial war.

trucic · « **Reply #104 on:** November 17, 2019, 12:06 »

I hope my country will make you rich, asap...

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #105 on:** November 17, 2019, 17:06 »

Quote from: DigitalPro on November 16, 2019, 15:26

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 16, 2019, 10:18
Quote from: DigitalPro on November 16, 2019, 10:12
Jonbull Prices you mention sound reasonable. I will try to contact some models for a couple of concepts I have in mind. Belgrade is not far from where I currently live - about one and a half hour flight. If financial terms end up positive, I can either fly to Belgrade or bring models to my location offering them an 8 day free vacation in an sea side airbnb villa with modern facilities including a pool, in exchange of their time - 5-6 hours photoshoot a day. TFV (time for vacation - flights included). Will calculate costs and see if I should proceed or not.

Sorry to clip out some of the irrelevant parts. Maybe you should also calculate the earnings from those photos, not just the expenses? If you can make back your investment, time, money, everything in two years, that's not a bad plan. (except you already have the equipment and software, so you don't need to include that in a single project prediction?)

What's your return for 8 days and 40 to 48 hours of shooting. You should count your personal time editing and uploading as an expense.

How much profit do you expect?
Hello Pete,
You are absolutely right. It is mandatory all aspects of such a project must be taken in consideration to avoid unpleasant financial end results; however I cannot really predict the sales potential each image has. But I can say I am often surprised with repeating good sales coming from some of my older or/and newer images I thought did not have that much sales potential.
Of course I have the equipment and software. I do the editing, keywording etc by myself, and upload in small batches.

In regard to the prospective projects with the Serbian models, I find the idea of flying them over to my location best, as I have the experience of a photoshoot I did four years ago using the same approach. The models for that photoshoot were from Romania – young couple (male-female), no professional models. Six days creating stock photos in various concepts. Only difference: No villa. Offered them full board accommodation in a beach hotel plus flights. Photoshoot took place on the beach, mountains, parks, sports grounds and in the city. Everything worked fine. They were happy and I was content with the results and the financial outcome of this job. Many of those images did not sell at all. Some had random sales and faded away, but there are a small number of those images that sell nearly every single day since they were uploaded. Those few images are the ones that have returned the cost of the photoshoot several times back to me and still working with very good results. To be honest when I started that project I was not sure I would make my money back.
So I am kind of optimistic for this new photoshoot possibility. But that does not mean that I will make my money back in this case. Will see.

Sounds good if you can do that. I only said two years because that's a usual number to amortize an investment. I understand the expenses up front could be less by working you plan, which potentially means you can make your investment back sooner.

By the way the verified expert part was a joke but some people can't see past their anger, hostility and closed minds.

DigitalPro · « **Reply #106 on:** November 18, 2019, 16:34 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 17, 2019, 17:06

Quote from: DigitalPro on November 16, 2019, 15:26
Quote from: Uncle Pete on November 16, 2019, 10:18
Quote from: DigitalPro on November 16, 2019, 10:12
Jonbull Prices you mention sound reasonable. I will try to contact some models for a couple of concepts I have in mind. Belgrade is not far from where I currently live - about one and a half hour flight. If financial terms end up positive, I can either fly to Belgrade or bring models to my location offering them an 8 day free vacation in an sea side airbnb villa with modern facilities including a pool, in exchange of their time - 5-6 hours photoshoot a day. TFV (time for vacation - flights included). Will calculate costs and see if I should proceed or not.

Sorry to clip out some of the irrelevant parts. Maybe you should also calculate the earnings from those photos, not just the expenses? If you can make back your investment, time, money, everything in two years, that's not a bad plan. (except you already have the equipment and software, so you don't need to include that in a single project prediction?)

What's your return for 8 days and 40 to 48 hours of shooting. You should count your personal time editing and uploading as an expense.

How much profit do you expect?
Hello Pete,
You are absolutely right. It is mandatory all aspects of such a project must be taken in consideration to avoid unpleasant financial end results; however I cannot really predict the sales potential each image has. But I can say I am often surprised with repeating good sales coming from some of my older or/and newer images I thought did not have that much sales potential.
Of course I have the equipment and software. I do the editing, keywording etc by myself, and upload in small batches.

In regard to the prospective projects with the Serbian models, I find the idea of flying them over to my location best, as I have the experience of a photoshoot I did four years ago using the same approach. The models for that photoshoot were from Romania – young couple (male-female), no professional models. Six days creating stock photos in various concepts. Only difference: No villa. Offered them full board accommodation in a beach hotel plus flights. Photoshoot took place on the beach, mountains, parks, sports grounds and in the city. Everything worked fine. They were happy and I was content with the results and the financial outcome of this job. Many of those images did not sell at all. Some had random sales and faded away, but there are a small number of those images that sell nearly every single day since they were uploaded. Those few images are the ones that have returned the cost of the photoshoot several times back to me and still working with very good results. To be honest when I started that project I was not sure I would make my money back.
So I am kind of optimistic for this new photoshoot possibility. But that does not mean that I will make my money back in this case. Will see.

Sounds good if you can do that. I only said two years because that's a usual number to amortize an investment. I understand the expenses up front could be less by working you plan, which potentially means you can make your investment back sooner.

By the way the verified expert part was a joke but some people can't see past their anger, hostility and closed minds.