Author Topic: SS allowing reselling of images (Read 6338 times)

Shelma1 · « **on:** May 09, 2019, 10:32 »

"Self-serve API features include:

the ability to preview, license, and resell images, providing a new revenue stream to developers and businesses"

http://investor.shutterstock.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=251362&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2397956

Not Today · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2019, 11:22 »

uh oh... does this mean istock 0.01$ sales will be coming to SS too?

'' providing an additional revenue stream for customers when their end-users license and download images.'' what about contributors?

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/shutterstock-api-self-serve

https://www.shutterstock.com/api/pricing/?utm_source=ps&utm_medium=blog&utm_campaign=apiselfserve

ShadySue · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2019, 11:24 »

For just an ordinary sub price? (Not clear in that article)

obj owl · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2019, 11:40 »

You have got to laugh

"The Shutterstock API is backed by a royalty-free image library where every asset is vetted for compliance with copyright laws. For example, all Shutterstock images with models require proper model releases. Likewise, images featuring landmarks, private property, artwork, and even recognizable animals are required to have valid releases.

The rigor of our asset review process minimizes the risk of copyright claims for your application and end users. With Shutterstock API plans, you can enjoy the peace of mind of choosing a solution that helps you protect your business and end users."

Pauws99 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2019, 11:51 »

https://www.shutterstock.com/api/pricing

cathyslife · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2019, 11:54 »

Quote from: obj owl on May 09, 2019, 11:40

You have got to laugh

"The Shutterstock API is backed by a royalty-free image library where every asset is vetted for compliance with copyright laws. For example, all Shutterstock images with models require proper model releases. Likewise, images featuring landmarks, private property, artwork, and even recognizable animals are required to have valid releases.

The rigor of our asset review process minimizes the risk of copyright claims for your application and end users. With Shutterstock API plans, you can enjoy the peace of mind of choosing a solution that helps you protect your business and end users."

Yes, quite the joke, since thieves are stealing our hi rez images thru a hole in the software.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2019, 12:12 »

Why is there no thread on their forum, no announcement in the mail? What royalty do we get when people resell? (What a completely idiotic idea by the way).

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2019, 12:37 »

They several times mention a curated collection of 1 million images that will be part of this "program".

So this isn't the whole collection. Perhaps they have done a deal with one of the large factories to permit this use? Based on these descriptions, it doesn't sound like it's our content. More like those collections of not-so-great images that are sold as a bundle with resale rights; or the wholly owned stuff that Jupiter used to have.

The bad part about this is that instead of trying to build new revenue options for all their contributors, they're putting energy into siphoning off a portion of the market that we will no longer get to sell into - assuming this is a successful program.

People buying images through this sales channel won't be buying from the main Shutterstock collection - less business for us (when it's already showing year to year declines in sales)

tickstock · « **Reply #8 on:** May 09, 2019, 12:47 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 09, 2019, 12:37

They several times mention a curated collection of 1 million images that will be part of this "program".

So this isn't the whole collection. Perhaps they have done a deal with one of the large factories to permit this use? Based on these descriptions, it doesn't sound like it's our content. More like those collections of not-so-great images that are sold as a bundle with resale rights; or the wholly owned stuff that Jupiter used to have.

The bad part about this is that instead of trying to build new revenue options for all their contributors, they're putting energy into siphoning off a portion of the market that we will no longer get to sell into - assuming this is a successful program.

People buying images through this sales channel won't be buying from the main Shutterstock collection - less business for us (when it's already showing year to year declines in sales)

Business plan is 260 million files

kuriouskat · « **Reply #9 on:** May 09, 2019, 12:55 »

Shutterstock have a habit of telling the customers what is going on and forgetting to tell the contributors:

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/canvas-art-gallery-shutterstock-api?utm_content=post_1_en_The~Canvas~Art~Gallery~Integrates~Shutterstock~API~to~Diversify~Quality~Prints&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=platform_us_partnership_2019_04&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=1_1_facebook_1

Pauws99 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 09, 2019, 13:23 »

Quote from: KuriousKat on May 09, 2019, 12:55

Shutterstock have a habit of telling the customers what is going on and forgetting to tell the contributors:

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/canvas-art-gallery-shutterstock-api?utm_content=post_1_en_The~Canvas~Art~Gallery~Integrates~Shutterstock~API~to~Diversify~Quality~Prints&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=platform_us_partnership_2019_04&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=1_1_facebook_1

They don't forget they just don't care/can't be bothered.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 09, 2019, 13:27 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 09, 2019, 12:37

They several times mention a curated collection of 1 million images that will be part of this "program".

So this isn't the whole collection. Perhaps they have done a deal with one of the large factories to permit this use? Based on these descriptions, it doesn't sound like it's our content. More like those collections of not-so-great images that are sold as a bundle with resale rights; or the wholly owned stuff that Jupiter used to have.

The bad part about this is that instead of trying to build new revenue options for all their contributors, they're putting energy into siphoning off a portion of the market that we will no longer get to sell into - assuming this is a successful program.

People buying images through this sales channel won't be buying from the main Shutterstock collection - less business for us (when it's already showing year to year declines in sales)

This is the pattern....they don't see much profit/growth in the standard offering its all about premium services or to use the jargon "value added". If I was a conspiracy theorist I might think they are deliberately trashing their basic offering so clients pay a premium to help them find decent imagery.

DavidK · « **Reply #12 on:** May 09, 2019, 14:21 »

I've been wearing that tinfoil hat for a while now too. The beauty of a good conspiracy theory is that it explains the otherwise inexplicable.

OM · « **Reply #13 on:** May 09, 2019, 18:52 »

Quote from: KuriousKat on May 09, 2019, 12:55

Shutterstock have a habit of telling the customers what is going on and forgetting to tell the contributors:

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/canvas-art-gallery-shutterstock-api?utm_content=post_1_en_The~Canvas~Art~Gallery~Integrates~Shutterstock~API~to~Diversify~Quality~Prints&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=platform_us_partnership_2019_04&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=1_1_facebook_1

Wonder how much the contributor gets when one of their shots is used for a 70x100cm wall print?

trek · « **Reply #14 on:** May 09, 2019, 19:12 »

Quote from: OM on May 09, 2019, 18:52

Quote from: KuriousKat on May 09, 2019, 12:55
Shutterstock have a habit of telling the customers what is going on and forgetting to tell the contributors:

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/canvas-art-gallery-shutterstock-api?utm_content=post_1_en_The~Canvas~Art~Gallery~Integrates~Shutterstock~API~to~Diversify~Quality~Prints&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=platform_us_partnership_2019_04&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=1_1_facebook_1

Wonder how much the contributor gets when one of their shots is used for a 70x100cm wall print?

Looks like my whole port is there....

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #15 on:** May 10, 2019, 01:48 »

Quote from: KuriousKat on May 09, 2019, 12:55

Shutterstock have a habit of telling the customers what is going on and forgetting to tell the contributors:

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/canvas-art-gallery-shutterstock-api?utm_content=post_1_en_The~Canvas~Art~Gallery~Integrates~Shutterstock~API~to~Diversify~Quality~Prints&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=platform_us_partnership_2019_04&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=1_1_facebook_1

I think - but can't be sure - that this is a different program from the one the OP was talking about. However I didn't know about this one either - I did know about the SS API and that they have various people effectively adding an external interface for purchases that will be made via the SS site, not the remote site.

For this print store - effectively doing what Fine Art America and the like do - they would even like us, the contributors, to advertise for them!!

https://thecanvasartgallery.com/how-to-create-shutterstock-artists-gallery-page/

Saying we make more than a typical extended license sounds interesting, but they don't say how much. I don't recall SS informing us of this either - they really are transforming into to a classic example of mushroom management with respect to contributors.

Contributors need to have more control over these sorts of side deals - in the past I'd have said we need opt outs, but given SS's cavalier attitude and poor communications, we really need affirmative opt in or they can't make a new use of our content. It's the only way they would bother to communicate with us about what's going on. Even if it was like Alamy - with a once a year opportunity to change your choices - it would help.

The *only* good thing SS has (and I checked that it's still there, at least today) is the ability to turn off all image sales without deleting your portfolio. In theory, contributors could turn off their portfolios for a couple of weeks to try and get the attention of the folks in the Empire State Building offices who appear to have forgotten who brought them to the dance in the first place...

georgep7 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 10, 2019, 02:24 »

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contributors could turn off their portfolios for a couple of weeks

wouldn't that kill any good ranking of the images in search results?

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #17 on:** May 10, 2019, 09:46 »

Quote from: georgep7 on May 10, 2019, 02:24

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contributors could turn off their portfolios for a couple of weeks

wouldn't that kill any good ranking of the images in search results?

Search ranking is entirely within SS's control, so anything could happen. If they wanted to (and I'm not saying it would make any business sense to do this), they could change rankings if they were angry with a contributor for any or no reason.

I could experiment with my best sellers, but I'm not inclined to do that absent some mass action where there's a chance of shaming SS into giving a toss about contributor relations

DallasP · « **Reply #18 on:** May 11, 2019, 07:19 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on May 09, 2019, 12:37

They several times mention a curated collection of 1 million images that will be part of this "program".

So this isn't the whole collection. Perhaps they have done a deal with one of the large factories to permit this use? Based on these descriptions, it doesn't sound like it's our content. More like those collections of not-so-great images that are sold as a bundle with resale rights; or the wholly owned stuff that Jupiter used to have.

The bad part about this is that instead of trying to build new revenue options for all their contributors, they're putting energy into siphoning off a portion of the market that we will no longer get to sell into - assuming this is a successful program.

People buying images through this sales channel won't be buying from the main Shutterstock collection - less business for us (when it's already showing year to year declines in sales)

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Author Topic: SS allowing reselling of images (Read 6338 times)

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