Author Topic: Shutterstock starts database cleanup?! (Read 20073 times)

Pixart · « **Reply #25 on:** November 04, 2009, 11:02 »

It must just be me, but I would have thought to remove all of these photos before I gave a buyer guarantee. Isn't their guarantee program live already?

traveler1116 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 04, 2009, 11:32 »

They probably should have been doing this the whole time, protecting us and them should have been one of their top priorities from the beginning. I would be happy to see anything in my port go if it is a potential copyright/trademark issue.

melastmohican · « **Reply #27 on:** November 04, 2009, 13:08 »

For me it has not happened yet. Maybe they start from older portfolios?

KB · « **Reply #28 on:** November 04, 2009, 13:09 »

I haven't had any images de-activated yet, but I fully expect it will happen soon enough.

What I don't understand is why they don't simply allow a title change and swap it to editorial use? Why delete already approved and selling images from the collection? Many of them, surely, would be useful for editorial purposes.

dzain · « **Reply #29 on:** November 04, 2009, 13:31 »

Quote from: KB on November 04, 2009, 13:09

I haven't had any images de-activated yet, but I fully expect it will happen soon enough.

What I don't understand is why they don't simply allow a title change and swap it to editorial use? Why delete already approved and selling images from the collection? Many of them, surely, would be useful for editorial purposes.

I agree!

Roadrunner · « **Reply #30 on:** November 04, 2009, 16:51 »

Pretty soon we won't be able to submit anything. Just about everything was manufactured or made by someone. That would leave nature the only subject legally open. Otherwise we will need a MR or PR for everything submitted. Wonder if we will hsve to get all releases notarized?

It may be time to find another way.
Roadrunner

lisafx · « **Reply #31 on:** November 04, 2009, 17:05 »

Quote from: GeoPappas on November 04, 2009, 05:11

Is it possible that the images that have been removed had keywords that were considered trademarks or copyrights?

For example, if you search on the keyword "BMW", there are 5 results. If you search on "Volvo", there are 77 results. Etc.

I had one yanked and I don't use brand names in the keywords.

In my image the car was not the main focus. On top of that, my car is so generic I can barely tell what it is myself. There are half a dozen or more different manufacturers that make a car almost identical to mine. With logos removed it is virtually unidentifiable.

Wondering if we will have to stay away from any and all concepts involving motor vehicles in the future? Sure will leave massive holes in the collections...

dbvirago · « **Reply #32 on:** November 04, 2009, 19:09 »

Interesting during all the car deletions, this is in the revolving images on their home page. Easily identified as to the model of car and probably the maker of the toy

Konstantin Sutyagin · « **Reply #33 on:** November 04, 2009, 21:58 »

Quote from: dzain on November 04, 2009, 13:31

Quote from: KB on November 04, 2009, 13:09
I haven't had any images de-activated yet, but I fully expect it will happen soon enough.

What I don't understand is why they don't simply allow a title change and swap it to editorial use? Why delete already approved and selling images from the collection? Many of them, surely, would be useful for editorial purposes.
I agree!

My thoughts exactly... Why not change to editorial?

traveler1116 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 05, 2009, 02:56 »

Quote from: Konstantin Sutyagin on November 04, 2009, 21:58

Quote from: dzain on November 04, 2009, 13:31
Quote from: KB on November 04, 2009, 13:09
I haven't had any images de-activated yet, but I fully expect it will happen soon enough.

What I don't understand is why they don't simply allow a title change and swap it to editorial use? Why delete already approved and selling images from the collection? Many of them, surely, would be useful for editorial purposes.
I agree!

My thoughts exactly... Why not change to editorial?

They seem to be kind of overstrict on "editorial" images, I have had some rejected that I thought would sell because they said they needed to be "newsworthy" or something like that. Cityscapes with building names and adverts are used in newspapers all the time I thought?

Oldhand · « **Reply #35 on:** November 05, 2009, 07:28 »

"Is it possible that the images that have been removed had keywords that were considered trademarks or copyrights?

For example, if you search on the keyword "BMW", there are 5 results. If you search on "Volvo", there are 77 results. Etc."

I had a map of Spain removed this week because, "Portugal is not in Spain". I checked -my keyword error as I was illustrating lots of maps at the time!

No other reason to disable an outline map, other than inappropriate keyword!

Oldhand

eppic · « **Reply #36 on:** November 05, 2009, 08:10 »

Actually nature images in some cases might not be safe from the cutting room floor either. For example here in Canada a photographer technically needs an expensive permit in order to photograph for commercial purposes, so in a sense those iconic Canadian Rockies images can also be vulnerable to being deleted if the contributor cannot provide a copy of a permit.
I know in Nevada you also need a commercial permit in their State Parks if you plan on selling images. I guess the question is how far with SS and other agencies go with this culling of potentially infringing imagery?

cathyslife · « **Reply #37 on:** November 05, 2009, 08:13 »

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Pretty soon we won't be able to submit anything. Just about everything was manufactured or made by someone. That would leave nature the only subject legally open.

It's funny, I started to type a rant that said exactly the same thing. Except mine said that soon we would need permission from the government or Bill Gates or somebody to photograph the sky and trees!

Lisa, that stinks about your car shot. It is all getting pretty ridiculous. Funny about the car in the revolving image...definitely the main subject and definitely identifiable. But then I have found that kind of stuff going on across the board. My photo gets rejected for one thing and I do a search and find tons more with the same copyrighted thing. Let's see if they pull it now that they are cleaning up.

I have escaped so far, but totally expect something to get chopped. I don't have any car images, but other stuff.

lisafx · « **Reply #38 on:** November 05, 2009, 09:09 »

Here's an interesting thought - the sites that are offering guarantees - IS, SS, StockXpert, and probably BigStock to follow etc. are doing it to gain a competitive advantage by marketing themselves as having a collection with no possible infringement issues.

OTOH they are being so sweeping that soon there may be no motor vehicles or related concepts in their collections. Since those are popular concepts, wouldn't that send a significant number of buyers who need those images to the sites that still HAVE them?

They may inadvertently be handing the competitive advantage to the sites that have the content because they aren't offering the guarantee.

This could end up being a windfall for DT, FT and others if they don't jump on the "guarantee" bandwagon.

designalldone · « **Reply #39 on:** November 05, 2009, 10:40 »

Looks like they are pulling pretty much anything with a car in it! $:-\$

Just had these illustrations removed:
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-illustration-6490792-cars-hatchback-saloon-convertible.php
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-illustration-6490812-cars-people-carrier-and-suv.php

dirkr · « **Reply #40 on:** November 05, 2009, 11:27 »

Then they still have a long way to go...
Searching for "car" delivers 93142 hits.
And I sold a picture with a car on it today.

KB · « **Reply #41 on:** November 05, 2009, 11:52 »

Quote from: designalldone on November 05, 2009, 10:40

Looks like they are pulling pretty much anything with a car in it! $:-\$

Just had these illustrations removed:
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-illustration-6490792-cars-hatchback-saloon-convertible.php
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-illustration-6490812-cars-people-carrier-and-suv.php

Am I the only one who thinks that some of these deletions (such as these, and the junk cars by leaf) have gone beyond ridiculous and entered laughable territory?

lisafx · « **Reply #42 on:** November 05, 2009, 13:05 »

Quote from: KB on November 05, 2009, 11:52

Am I the only one who thinks that some of these deletions (such as these, and the junk cars by leaf) have gone beyond ridiculous and entered laughable territory?

You are not alone

travismanley · « **Reply #43 on:** November 05, 2009, 13:29 »

Im up to 9 deleted photos so far. All car photos with logos removed and no brand names in the file info. Some of these are pretty generic looking cop and emergency vehicles, some of my top selling images.

Really makes you wonder (like Lisa said) if SS is shooting themselves in the foot. Hopefully this isnt going to be a trend, but I fear it will be.

melastmohican · « **Reply #44 on:** November 05, 2009, 13:43 »

Just got email that they removed picture of car wreck from Bodie ghost town. My number one seller is fragment of sport car. I wonder when they going to notice it :-)

cathyslife · « **Reply #45 on:** November 05, 2009, 13:49 »

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Am I the only one who thinks that some of these deletions (such as these, and the junk cars by leaf) have gone beyond ridiculous and entered laughable territory?

No, you're not. Pulling those illustrations, as far as I am concerned, means they have taken the step off into the deep end.

dbvirago · « **Reply #46 on:** November 05, 2009, 13:51 »

Hopefully, for those of us on multiple sites, sales will balance out. About a year ago, a few agencies got anal about accepting legally shot, generic houses saying they need a property release. The sites where my houses remained more than made up for sales lost on the sites where they were deleted.

Lawyers are the only field where they can both create and solve the problem and get paid for both.

crazychristina · « **Reply #47 on:** November 05, 2009, 14:15 »

Quote from: Roadrunner on November 04, 2009, 16:51

Pretty soon we won't be able to submit anything. Just about everything was manufactured or made by someone. That would leave nature the only subject legally open. Otherwise we will need a MR or PR for everything submitted. Wonder if we will hsve to get all releases notarized?

It may be time to find another way.
Roadrunner

Good news for 3D artists. No wonder mevans is doing so well with his port of 3D cars.

dbvirago · « **Reply #48 on:** November 05, 2009, 14:36 »

Quote from: averil on November 05, 2009, 14:15

Quote from: Roadrunner on November 04, 2009, 16:51
Pretty soon we won't be able to submit anything. Just about everything was manufactured or made by someone. That would leave nature the only subject legally open. Otherwise we will need a MR or PR for everything submitted. Wonder if we will hsve to get all releases notarized?

It may be time to find another way.
Roadrunner
Good news for 3D artists. No wonder mevans is doing so well with his port of 3D cars.

Per the thread on SS, people have had their vectors of cars and motorcycles deleted for the same reason.

leaf · « **Reply #49 on:** November 05, 2009, 14:46 »

Quote from: KB on November 05, 2009, 11:52

Quote from: designalldone on November 05, 2009, 10:40
Looks like they are pulling pretty much anything with a car in it! $:-\$

Just had these illustrations removed:
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-illustration-6490792-cars-hatchback-saloon-convertible.php
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-illustration-6490812-cars-people-carrier-and-suv.php

Am I the only one who thinks that some of these deletions (such as these, and the junk cars by leaf) have gone beyond ridiculous and entered laughable territory?

It's tough to say. I can't see them wanting to remove anything they don't have to.

Those vectors look quite a bit like a Toyota Avensis and Toyota Land Cruiser, and I don't really know cars that well.

My old rusted out cars that were deleted.? Well I think one was a model T ... does Ford still exercise their copyright on that?

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