Author Topic: New Content Sale (Read 15430 times)

maximillion · « **on:** August 14, 2016, 07:07 »

Do you see the difference with last upload files? I uploaded 200 new and nothing. No sales.
This is happening to me after the last shutterstock site changes.

Do you know someone for Shutterstock support? Maybe it's bag.

This discourages members.

new files link: http://www.shutterstock.com/g/maximillion1/sets/48270721 [nofollow]

Stockmaan · « **Reply #1 on:** August 14, 2016, 07:25 »

Same here. Btw do you use microstockr app?

Shelma1 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 14, 2016, 08:40 »

This is what happened to sales of my new images as of last week. Sudden drop to zero.

panicAttack · « **Reply #3 on:** August 14, 2016, 08:43 »

i know i sold new images (uploaded and approved in last 1-6 months) this week and I also see 0.00 earnings on that graph so i believe it is some kind of bug

Shelma1 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 14, 2016, 08:45 »

I wish it was a bug for me. But sales of everything I uploaded over the past couple of months pretty much stopped dead with a couple of rare exceptions.

dpimborough · « **Reply #5 on:** August 14, 2016, 13:58 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on August 14, 2016, 08:40

This is what happened to sales of my new images as of last week. Sudden drop to zero.

I got the same

The whole site has gone to hell in a hand basket.

I don't know what SS think they are doing but its wrecking the place

Mantis · « **Reply #6 on:** August 14, 2016, 14:20 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on August 14, 2016, 08:45

I wish it was a bug for me. But sales of everything I uploaded over the past couple of months pretty much stopped dead with a couple of rare exceptions.

Same here. I've uploaded about 200 videos and right after that (about 2 weeks ago), everything dropped to almost nothing. Pushing almost 5200 image and video assets and am now making next to nothing on weekdays. Without a massive couple of SOD's I will not even be close to making my average. It will be like living in the past---7 years ago when I was making $300 to $400 a month. What a drag.

Monty-m-gue · « **Reply #7 on:** August 14, 2016, 15:05 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on August 14, 2016, 08:40

This is what happened to sales of my new images as of last week. Sudden drop to zero.

My graph looks just like this^

I have recently uploaded some of my very best work to SS only to see it plummet out of sight in the search. Very, very demoralising...

Minsc · « **Reply #8 on:** August 14, 2016, 16:32 »

And this is why the new search algorithm is dumb. It hurts any contributor, both veteran and newcomer who has uploaded work in the last couple of years. Those files are being pushed down to the bottom in favor of images uploaded from 4 years ago. a good algorithm levels the playing field for everyone, not favor a small percentage of contributors.

Sales have obviously fallen for many people since the change last week, me included. I don't know what SS's intentions are... maybe it's a glitch, maybe it's a regional test, or maybe they want buyers to download less. It's a short term gain for SS, but but it won't be good for them in the long run since they're serving up less relevant results in the search.

r2d2 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 14, 2016, 17:03 »

Quote from: Shelma1 on August 14, 2016, 08:40

This is what happened to sales of my new images as of last week. Sudden drop to zero.

same graph here. This search change in combination with summer slump is a contributors nightmare month...

alno · « **Reply #10 on:** August 14, 2016, 17:14 »

I guess one day Shutterstock investors will be surprised with all those daring "new algorithms" since no sales work the same for all parties and several other people will spend more time with their families.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #11 on:** August 14, 2016, 17:18 »

Quote from: Irina Anosova on August 14, 2016, 17:14

I guess one day Shutterstock investors will be surprised with all those daring "new algorithms" since no sales work the same for all parties and several other people will spend more time with their families.

it won't matter to the vultures as they will have shorted their stocks by then,
leaving the rest holding the back with lots of collateral damages done.
the question is will Mr. J. O. still be there , or will he pull an istock runaway

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #12 on:** August 14, 2016, 18:58 »

Quote from: Mantis on August 14, 2016, 14:20

Quote from: Shelma1 on August 14, 2016, 08:45
I wish it was a bug for me. But sales of everything I uploaded over the past couple of months pretty much stopped dead with a couple of rare exceptions.

Same here. I've uploaded about 200 videos and right after that (about 2 weeks ago), everything dropped to almost nothing. Pushing almost 5200 image and video assets and am now making next to nothing on weekdays. Without a massive couple of SOD's I will not even be close to making my average. It will be like living in the past---7 years ago when I was making $300 to $400 a month. What a drag.

three too!!!
i am too ashamed to even look at my sets. in a matter of months, i increased my port by 300%
but in the same period my earnings for the sets have, get this, not even 20% increase.
i am asking myself why even bother to give ss anymore new images

btw, add salt to the wound, earnings for the 6 months new images = $15 ....*

pancaketom · « **Reply #13 on:** August 14, 2016, 23:34 »

New image earnings have been particularly weak for me for a while (like a year?), but I have been pretty busy so haven't uploaded much. There isn't much motivation to upload though when new stuff doesn't much sell. Old stuff seems to sell a bit, but I haven't had a good day yet this month and I notched up another 0 day today - I went a number of years without them, but now they are back. (over 3,000 LCV to MCV images for sale).

As an aside I sorted my port by age and the results had nothing to do with age as far as I could tell - what kind of new algorithm is this?

Artist · « **Reply #14 on:** August 15, 2016, 00:39 »

same here, everything screwed up.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 15, 2016, 03:02 »

It certainly appears there are wild swings in the algorithm my new sales for the last three months are poor but OK for 6. SS will only care if it affects their sales...."fair" doesn't come into it. If buyers start going elsewhere or start complaining they can't find images they saw a couple of days ago things might change. You can only hope the next change is in your favour.

HalfFull · « **Reply #16 on:** August 15, 2016, 06:15 »

Quote from: panicAttack on August 14, 2016, 08:43

i know i sold new images (uploaded and approved in last 1-6 months) this week and I also see 0.00 earnings on that graph so i believe it is some kind of bug

Yeah, I've sold shitloads of new stuff in the last week but it says $0. A bug for sure. That doesn't mean other peoples new work isn't selling, it's just a different problem.

Edit....
I've just had a quick look back over this last week and I'd say a good $90+ of this weeks sales are from new work. Some days over half of all sales. As far as I can see, this is without doubt a bug in the data collection. They've changed / added new fields to the database and the "New Content Graph" is now not pointing to the correct field anymore or, something along those lines. In short, an analyst has ballsed up the data collection/display.

jazz42 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 15, 2016, 06:20 »

I also sold new stuff, but it doesn't show on the graph.

Stockmaan · « **Reply #18 on:** August 15, 2016, 06:33 »

Quote from: jazz42 on August 15, 2016, 06:20

I also sold new stuff, but it doesn't show on the graph.

Last year in aug I have the same problem. This year again. Weird.

stockmarketer · « **Reply #19 on:** August 15, 2016, 06:36 »

Everyone is jumping to the conclusion that SS is incompetent. To me, it looks like they are doing some smart testing, at a time when it should be done -- in the dog days of summer. If you have a theory on a new search algorithm that might boost sales, you test it out in a period that is traditionally low selling, so you can perfect it and be ready to maximize sales for the high selling days coming later in the year.

Does anyone really think they're trying to suppress sales overall? Whose interest would that serve? We complain when they boost newer submissions and seemingly punish the veterans, and now we complain when older images place higher in search?

To me, these changes look OK. My sales have been a bit higher the last few days, and my new stuff is still selling, though not as quickly as before. I'm looking at my new stuff that is selling now as my diamonds in the rough -- images that are extremely unique and serving a real demand. It doesn't matter how low they place in search results because they're in a specific niche and will be near the top no matter how SS tweaks the search. This is like shining a spotlight on exactly what I need to do moving forward. If it's something that's been done a million times over, don't even bother. Find something new -- that people actually want -- and you'll be rewarded. Yes, it's tough to do these days, but still possible.

HalfFull · « **Reply #20 on:** August 15, 2016, 07:36 »

Quote from: stockmarketer on August 15, 2016, 06:36

Everyone is jumping to the conclusion that SS is incompetent. To me, it looks like they are doing some smart testing, at a time when it should be done -- in the dog days of summer. If you have a theory on a new search algorithm that might boost sales, you test it out in a period that is traditionally low selling, so you can perfect it and be ready to maximize sales for the high selling days coming later in the year.

Does anyone really think they're trying to suppress sales overall? Whose interest would that serve? We complain when they boost newer submissions and seemingly punish the veterans, and now we complain when older images place higher in search?

To me, these changes look OK. My sales have been a bit higher the last few days, and my new stuff is still selling, though not as quickly as before. I'm looking at my new stuff that is selling now as my diamonds in the rough -- images that are extremely unique and serving a real demand. It doesn't matter how low they place in search results because they're in a specific niche and will be near the top no matter how SS tweaks the search. This is like shining a spotlight on exactly what I need to do moving forward. If it's something that's been done a million times over, don't even bother. Find something new -- that people actually want -- and you'll be rewarded. Yes, it's tough to do these days, but still possible.

While I agree with everything you've said, there is a fault with that "Earnings From New Content" graph. It's showing $0 for me and I know fine well that is completely wrong... by nearly $100.

At the moment, new & old images seem to be selling well, especially given the the time of year.

Mantis · « **Reply #21 on:** August 15, 2016, 07:57 »

Quote from: HalfFull on August 15, 2016, 07:36

Quote from: stockmarketer on August 15, 2016, 06:36
Everyone is jumping to the conclusion that SS is incompetent. To me, it looks like they are doing some smart testing, at a time when it should be done -- in the dog days of summer. If you have a theory on a new search algorithm that might boost sales, you test it out in a period that is traditionally low selling, so you can perfect it and be ready to maximize sales for the high selling days coming later in the year.

Does anyone really think they're trying to suppress sales overall? Whose interest would that serve? We complain when they boost newer submissions and seemingly punish the veterans, and now we complain when older images place higher in search?

To me, these changes look OK. My sales have been a bit higher the last few days, and my new stuff is still selling, though not as quickly as before. I'm looking at my new stuff that is selling now as my diamonds in the rough -- images that are extremely unique and serving a real demand. It doesn't matter how low they place in search results because they're in a specific niche and will be near the top no matter how SS tweaks the search. This is like shining a spotlight on exactly what I need to do moving forward. If it's something that's been done a million times over, don't even bother. Find something new -- that people actually want -- and you'll be rewarded. Yes, it's tough to do these days, but still possible.

While I agree with everything you've said, there is a fault with that "Earnings From New Content" graph. It's showing $0 for me and I know fine well that is completely wrong... by nearly $100.

At the moment, new & old images seem to be selling well, especially given the the time of year.

So are you hypothesizing that we could be getting sales, but they are just not being reported?

Dumc · « **Reply #22 on:** August 15, 2016, 08:03 »

How would he know, that the graph is wrong, if sales weren't reported?

KONJINA · « **Reply #23 on:** August 15, 2016, 10:22 »

As someone who has registered to SS about two months ago all I have to say is that in August I had 4 downloads ($1 earned) comparing to July with 28 downloads ($20) and Jun with 41 download ($12).
Looks like this is really bad time to start micro stock business

HalfFull · « **Reply #24 on:** August 15, 2016, 10:26 »

Quote from: Mantis on August 15, 2016, 07:57

Quote from: HalfFull on August 15, 2016, 07:36
Quote from: stockmarketer on August 15, 2016, 06:36
Everyone is jumping to the conclusion that SS is incompetent. To me, it looks like they are doing some smart testing, at a time when it should be done -- in the dog days of summer. If you have a theory on a new search algorithm that might boost sales, you test it out in a period that is traditionally low selling, so you can perfect it and be ready to maximize sales for the high selling days coming later in the year.

Does anyone really think they're trying to suppress sales overall? Whose interest would that serve? We complain when they boost newer submissions and seemingly punish the veterans, and now we complain when older images place higher in search?

To me, these changes look OK. My sales have been a bit higher the last few days, and my new stuff is still selling, though not as quickly as before. I'm looking at my new stuff that is selling now as my diamonds in the rough -- images that are extremely unique and serving a real demand. It doesn't matter how low they place in search results because they're in a specific niche and will be near the top no matter how SS tweaks the search. This is like shining a spotlight on exactly what I need to do moving forward. If it's something that's been done a million times over, don't even bother. Find something new -- that people actually want -- and you'll be rewarded. Yes, it's tough to do these days, but still possible.

While I agree with everything you've said, there is a fault with that "Earnings From New Content" graph. It's showing $0 for me and I know fine well that is completely wrong... by nearly $100.

At the moment, new & old images seem to be selling well, especially given the the time of year.

So are you hypothesizing that we could be getting sales, but they are just not being reported?

What I am saying and seeing, without any question of doubt, is that at least $90 of my last weeks sales at SS were new content yet the graph says $0. To me that says the graph is wrong and can't be used to determine whether your new images are selling or not. If, you have looked through all your sales via your monthly earnings spreadsheet and you still can't see any sales from new content, well, that's a different matter. Just don't use that graph as a reason to say your new content isn't selling. That data doesn't appear to be reliable. Certainly from my point of view.

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Author Topic: New Content Sale (Read 15430 times)

maximillion

Stockmaan

Shelma1

panicAttack

Shelma1

dpimborough

Mantis

Monty-m-gue

Minsc

r2d2

alno

etudiante_rapide

etudiante_rapide

pancaketom

Artist

Pauws99

HalfFull

jazz42

Stockmaan

stockmarketer

HalfFull

Mantis

Dumc

KONJINA

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