Author Topic: Shutterstock To Announce Third Quarter 2012 Earnings Release on Nov 15th (Read 18864 times)

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #50 on:** November 20, 2012, 11:07 »

Quote from: loop on November 20, 2012, 10:15

I supposse Yuri is getting 20% at Istock, or, at least, 19%, not 16... Knowing exactly which the SS percentage is, it's not easy, but that doesn't change the fact that he's getting 0.38 dollar per download, regardless of size.

As has been pointed out above, this is just incorrect. You get that per subscription download, but the on demand, single and other downloads have different prices based on size, so you'd be losing out on the higher priced ($2.85 royalty for the on demand, $5.70 and up for single and other) royalties if you only uploaded small images - $1.24 vs. $2.85 for on demand, for example.

And as has also been pointed out, 38 cents is a lot better than 28 cents which is what I receive for subscriptions at Thinkstock.

As someone else said, you're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

loop · « **Reply #51 on:** November 20, 2012, 14:41 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 20, 2012, 10:22

Quote from: loop on November 20, 2012, 10:15
Quote from: gostwyck on November 20, 2012, 08:13
Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on November 20, 2012, 04:11
16% is pretty bad. I think I will start to upload only Low res from now on. For 38 cents per download - that's the price of a a low res

The "16%" you are quoting is what iSTOCK are paying Luis, not Shutterstock. SS are paying him over 27%.

I supposse Yuri is getting 20% at Istock, or, at least, 19%, not 16... Knowing exactly which the SS percentage is, it's not easy, but that doesn't change the fact that he's getting 0.38 dollar per download, regardless of size.

he ain't getting 38 cents per download, how many times shall we repeat that it ain't our RPD most average/top contributor is getting over 75 cents, if we enter PP on iStock income it can get that too, when will you guys give up on defending iStock after screw up and screw up

Well, I neither wouldn't like getting 75 cents for an XXXL. I get around 15 $ (20x) for a regular exclusive at IS, not to talk of e+, Vetta and Agency. Maybe it would be interesting to know which agency pays less for a big print size (I don't think its SS)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #52 on:** November 20, 2012, 14:50 »

Quote from: loop on November 20, 2012, 14:41

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 20, 2012, 10:22
Quote from: loop on November 20, 2012, 10:15
Quote from: gostwyck on November 20, 2012, 08:13
Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on November 20, 2012, 04:11
16% is pretty bad. I think I will start to upload only Low res from now on. For 38 cents per download - that's the price of a a low res

The "16%" you are quoting is what iSTOCK are paying Luis, not Shutterstock. SS are paying him over 27%.

I supposse Yuri is getting 20% at Istock, or, at least, 19%, not 16... Knowing exactly which the SS percentage is, it's not easy, but that doesn't change the fact that he's getting 0.38 dollar per download, regardless of size.

he ain't getting 38 cents per download, how many times shall we repeat that it ain't our RPD most average/top contributor is getting over 75 cents, if we enter PP on iStock income it can get that too, when will you guys give up on defending iStock after screw up and screw up

Well, I neither wouldn't like getting 75 cents for an XXXL. I get around 15 $ (20x) for a regular exclusive at IS, not to talk of e+, Vetta and Agency. Maybe it would be interesting to know which agency pays less for a big print size (I don't think its SS)

I am going exclusive!

pro@stockphotos · « **Reply #53 on:** November 20, 2012, 15:15 »

Quote from: cthoman on November 20, 2012, 10:57

Quote from: gostwyck on November 20, 2012, 10:25
An iStock monopoly would not be good for either contributors or image buyers.

I probably would have made more money with an iStock monopoly, but it doesn't really matter. It's all hypothetical.

Yes that is what is weird on here. Monopolies are better for suppliers and competition is better for buyers pushing down the prices. Which one are we?

cthoman · « **Reply #54 on:** November 20, 2012, 15:30 »

Quote from: pro@stockphotos on November 20, 2012, 15:15

Quote from: cthoman on November 20, 2012, 10:57
Quote from: gostwyck on November 20, 2012, 10:25
An iStock monopoly would not be good for either contributors or image buyers.

I probably would have made more money with an iStock monopoly, but it doesn't really matter. It's all hypothetical.

Yes that is what is weird on here. Monopolies are better for suppliers and competition is better for buyers pushing down the prices. Which one are we?

I wouldn't say that either. If I flipped it around and gave SS the monopoly, I'd probably make less. I just meant I got paid more per sale at IS, so I probably would make more overall if their competition disappeared. But, it would be impossible for any agency to achieve a monopoly. There is always going to be some sort of alternative.

RacePhoto · « **Reply #55 on:** November 22, 2012, 01:41 »

Quote from: pro@stockphotos on November 20, 2012, 15:15

Quote from: cthoman on November 20, 2012, 10:57
Quote from: gostwyck on November 20, 2012, 10:25
An iStock monopoly would not be good for either contributors or image buyers.

I probably would have made more money with an iStock monopoly, but it doesn't really matter. It's all hypothetical.

Yes that is what is weird on here. Monopolies are better for suppliers and competition is better for buyers pushing down the prices. Which one are we?

But Micro isn't a monopoly and won't be. It will just be less crummy little wannabee agencies and more bigger real business like agencies. Nothing will change on the supply side because pretty much all the same people, upload all the same files, everywhere. And they are just competing with their own sales, with price cutting. So if a buyer can't get it on Lowball Photos because they are gone, they can find the identical file on agencies 1-10 for a better commission.

People just haven't figured out yet that less agencies and only support the ones with better commissions, means more income!

The same people who want more money, are selling everything for less, lower commissions, and supporting cut rate competition, with their own images. Ironic isn't it?

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