Author Topic: does SS do not like anymore new photos??? (Read 16644 times)

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #25 on:** December 06, 2021, 11:53 »

Quote from: HappyBunny on December 06, 2021, 09:10

Quote from: Uncle Pete on December 02, 2021, 11:35
Quote from: Wilm on December 01, 2021, 17:49
Quote from: pic_pom on December 01, 2021, 08:15
but i produce 50 MP pictures and it a shame to downsize them to 20 or less.

In my view, this is the wrong approach! You get between $0.10 and $0.20 for most downloads, and with the revenue you worry about the generous buyer only getting a 20 MP photo? How many downloads do you need to even begin to recoup the cost of an equimpment that allows 50MP?

From a financial point of view, I think you need to rethink!

That's my answer too. Just downsize and move on. Giving away 50MP images for a dime is not going to make more than giving away 10MP images for a dime. And if the 10MP images come from that 50MP camera (what the heck is that?) and you are downsizing, you'll have almost no rejections for focus, pixelation, grain, soft or any of the other absurd rejections from the SS Bots.

I totally agree. I said that yesterday that for 10 cents they only deserve to get images taken with a mobile phone.

Or small Crapstock from me.

My mobile phone isn't "good enough".

Quote from: Annie on December 05, 2021, 15:45

I am just afraid that telling people to downsize to avoid SS rejections will get them into bad habits - with lesser potential income. Extra large images are good for all sorts of buyer reasons. eg. Potential for cropping, etc.

Yes, good important points and the rest of the advice as well.

Quote from: H2O on December 06, 2021, 09:52

I don't have a problem with having any photo's accepted at SS, as I haven't uploaded to this site since they cut the commission rates last year.

So no rejection at all in over a year.

Too easy, but I'm confident that you aren't missing much, other than frustration, anger and disappointment.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #26 on:** December 06, 2021, 11:54 »

Quote from: pic_pom on December 01, 2021, 08:15

i produce 50 MP pictures and it a shame to downsize them to 20 or less.

I might have missed the answer but What camera and what lenses? 50MP images are pretty large.

pic_pom · « **Reply #27 on:** December 07, 2021, 18:37 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on December 06, 2021, 11:54

Quote from: pic_pom on December 01, 2021, 08:15
i produce 50 MP pictures and it a shame to downsize them to 20 or less.

I might have missed the answer but What camera and what lenses? 50MP images are pretty large.

that's a Canon R5

fritz · « **Reply #28 on:** December 07, 2021, 18:40 »

By the way at the moment contributor dashboard is not working for me! Anyone else?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #29 on:** December 08, 2021, 16:11 »

Quote from: pic_pom on December 07, 2021, 18:37

Quote from: Uncle Pete on December 06, 2021, 11:54
Quote from: pic_pom on December 01, 2021, 08:15
i produce 50 MP pictures and it a shame to downsize them to 20 or less.

I might have missed the answer but What camera and what lenses? 50MP images are pretty large.

that's a Canon R5

So much for that theory, yours should be flying through.

Quote from: fritz on December 07, 2021, 18:40

By the way at the moment contributor dashboard is not working for me! Anyone else?

Yes, apparently I slept through the crisis. I only check once a day in the morning.

OM · « **Reply #30 on:** December 08, 2021, 20:42 »

Me neither! No rejections since May 2020....haven't uploaded anything since then.............but if the subs of >$0.38 continue to increase and the ten&teen-cents decrease then will maybe reconsider.

Must find a symbol for Adobe Stock instead of 'Adobe Stock formerly known as Fotolia' (ASFKAFT)

pic_pom · « **Reply #31 on:** December 14, 2021, 06:05 »

it was better last week, now this week everything gets declined again for crap reasons like noise.

I think I will just stop uploading with them, it is my main income agency with a 4 digit number every month but I cannot take this daily frustration anymore.

Rage · « **Reply #32 on:** December 14, 2021, 08:26 »

Quote from: thijsdegraaf on November 30, 2021, 14:01

Quote from: pic_pom on November 30, 2021, 09:50
I have been uploading to SS for 5+ years and build a portfolio of 4k+ pictures, but lately it is almost impossible to get new content approved as it is declined for the weirdest reasons, mainly focus or noise, lens dirt, posterization etc.
obviously total nonsense as I know how to edit photos and have pro gear

what is wrong with them? are they viewing the photos in 400% resolution and think they are out of focus?
do they have space problems and dont want new pics anymore?

my acceptance ratio is from 100% to 20% now and I am feeling a little desperate.....

Welcome. I don't know if you were on the defunct Shutterstock forum, but there were quite a few threads on the subject.
With me they are often right about lens dirt. Usually almost invisible. If I remove it, it will be approved.
Also on this forum there is a not so old topic: https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/focus-pocus!/

Could you guide me on how you finally identified all this almost invisible lens/sensor dust? Helpful to improve quality

Roscoe · « **Reply #33 on:** December 14, 2021, 14:07 »

Quote from: Rage on December 14, 2021, 08:26

Quote from: thijsdegraaf on November 30, 2021, 14:01
Quote from: pic_pom on November 30, 2021, 09:50
I have been uploading to SS for 5+ years and build a portfolio of 4k+ pictures, but lately it is almost impossible to get new content approved as it is declined for the weirdest reasons, mainly focus or noise, lens dirt, posterization etc.
obviously total nonsense as I know how to edit photos and have pro gear

what is wrong with them? are they viewing the photos in 400% resolution and think they are out of focus?
do they have space problems and dont want new pics anymore?

my acceptance ratio is from 100% to 20% now and I am feeling a little desperate.....

Welcome. I don't know if you were on the defunct Shutterstock forum, but there were quite a few threads on the subject.
With me they are often right about lens dirt. Usually almost invisible. If I remove it, it will be approved.
Also on this forum there is a not so old topic: https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/focus-pocus!/
Could you guide me on how you finally identified all this almost invisible lens/sensor dust? Helpful to improve quality

This is how I do it: take an image of a clean plain white paper (fill your frame). Select spot removal in Lightroom and drag the visual spots slider to the max.
When editing an image with possible dust spots, I identify them by dragging the dehaze slider to the max. Spots in for instance skies will become visible, so you can remove them with the spot removal tool.

Not sure these both options are the ideal ones, but that's how I do it, and it seems to work.

Roscoe · « **Reply #34 on:** December 14, 2021, 14:17 »

Quote from: Annie on December 05, 2021, 19:47

Then one day, a friend helped me - and I shot it correctly and nailed it. I mean, when you finally get it - it knocks your socks off! And you never look back again and complain.

Maybe that's not your problem, but I think its important for others reading this to know the difference between a borderline focus or noise shot and one that isn't.

Care to share your friend's trick that knocked your socks off Annie?
Some of us, myself included might learn something from well established and experienced contributors like you.
Some focus rejections really puzzled me, and made me actually believe that it's a cheap excuse to tell you "we don't need more of these kind of pictures" (which I would be fine with). Yet other agencies take them without any single rejection. My best selling image from last year is actually one that got rejected twice, and finally approved on the third time.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #35 on:** December 14, 2021, 14:24 »

Quote from: Roscoe on December 14, 2021, 14:17

My best selling image from last year is actually one that got rejected twice, and finally approved on the third time.

Same experience with me. And this concerns numerous images.

dbvirago · « **Reply #36 on:** December 14, 2021, 15:53 »

My commercial stuff is getting 80-100% rejected. Editorial 80-100% accepted.
Same photographer, camera, lenses, lighting, and composition.

Different Reviewer.

lostintimeline · « **Reply #37 on:** December 14, 2021, 19:01 »

its an AI dont bother. i uploaded two images the other day to fill the medatada without even posting them for review the next page after the upload had this massage your images were rejected.anyway i filled the metada i submitted them for review the next day i checked VOILA rejection

their ai is moronic as f lol

Firn · « **Reply #38 on:** December 15, 2021, 04:01 »

Quote from: dbvirago on December 14, 2021, 15:53

My commercial stuff is getting 80-100% rejected. Editorial 80-100% accepted.
Same photographer, camera, lenses, lighting, and composition.

Different Reviewer.

That's because editorial stuff doesn't have the same technical requirements regarding things like focus or grain.

"For Documentary Editorial images the quality standards are more lenient." https://support.submit.shutterstock.com/s/article/How-do-I-submit-editorial-content?language=en_US

If you have a rejection rate of 80-100% with commercial photos you really should reevaluate your photography technique there is something wrong with your image quality.
Don't always look for the problem at SS reviewers or some AI that might ore might not exist. If that's where the problem is all people would face a similar rejection rate. I think a rejection rate above 10% already shows that there is a problem with your image.

thijsdegraaf · « **Reply #39 on:** December 15, 2021, 04:36 »

I always zoom in on my photos. If it's not quite sharp at 200%, I know I could have a problem.
Landscape photos without a foreground, where the foliage of trees is not sharp, is a problem.
Before shooting for Shutterstock, I thought I took nice photos, but almost all of them would be disapproved for sharpness.
Sometimes the question is whether that sharpness is necessary for certain photos, but that is the rule at Shutterstock.
Photos that are on the border are sometimes approved and rejected the other time. And sometimes, of course, photos completely unjustly rejected.
On the shutterstock forum. the rejected photos were often shown. Often it turned out to be justified according to the Shutterstock rules.
I found that educational. I rarely see pictures here. Just complaining doesn't help, of course.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #40 on:** December 15, 2021, 11:34 »

Quote from: Firn on December 15, 2021, 04:01

Quote from: dbvirago on December 14, 2021, 15:53
My commercial stuff is getting 80-100% rejected. Editorial 80-100% accepted.
Same photographer, camera, lenses, lighting, and composition.

Different Reviewer.
That's because editorial stuff doesn't have the same technical requirements regarding things like focus or grain.

"For Documentary Editorial images the quality standards are more lenient." https://support.submit.shutterstock.com/s/article/How-do-I-submit-editorial-content?language=en_US

If you have a rejection rate of 80-100% with commercial photos you really should reevaluate your photography technique there is something wrong with your image quality.
Don't always look for the problem at SS reviewers or some AI that might ore might not exist. If that's where the problem is all people would face a similar rejection rate. I think a rejection rate above 10% already shows that there is a problem with your image.

Good facts, and there's a small exception. When you get a moron reviewer who doesn't know they are Editorial!

No really, a whole batch rejected for the usual noise or focus or some of the catch-all rejections. I waited a day, sent them all, a couple rejected for similar, if I remember, two for focus. The other 46 passed just fine.

AI exists, (machine learning actually) it's been in their corporate news for years and promoted last year in the stockholders reports. To what extent, yes, we don't know exactly. But at minimum, the software, advises reviewers on flaws and a lazy person can just click and make fast review money. Then the issue that it's machine learning and the software learned in the past from reviewers, and some of those, were wrong or overly harsh about noise, focus, or soft around the edges. Then the machine learns to reject for improper reasons.

And I'd agree that if someone is getting constant rejections, the cause might be the source, not the reviews.

If I personally don't upload marginal images, I don't get rejections. Pretty simple? But that's me and someone else has to decide on their own, how they select or don't from their own work. Sometimes I upload and see if I can sneak one past them.

HappyBunny · « **Reply #41 on:** December 17, 2021, 13:22 »

Quote from: H2O on December 06, 2021, 09:52

I don't have a problem with having any photo's accepted at SS, as I haven't uploaded to this site since they cut the commission rates last year.

So no rejection at all in over a year.

I would like to delete all my images on SS until they come to their senses but when/if they do how to upload hundreds of images again? That's far too much work. Something needs to be done so that they get the drift that paying 10 cents is just not acceptable.

For Real · « **Reply #42 on:** December 17, 2021, 14:58 »

Quote from: HappyBunny on December 17, 2021, 13:22

Quote from: H2O on December 06, 2021, 09:52
I don't have a problem with having any photo's accepted at SS, as I haven't uploaded to this site since they cut the commission rates last year.

So no rejection at all in over a year.

I would like to delete all my images on SS until they come to their senses but when/if they do how to upload hundreds of images again? That's far too much work. Something needs to be done so that they get the drift that paying 10 cents is just not acceptable.

Never will happen...

cascoly · « **Reply #43 on:** December 17, 2021, 19:20 »

Quote from: HappyBunny on December 17, 2021, 13:22

Quote from: H2O on December 06, 2021, 09:52
I don't have a problem with having any photo's accepted at SS, as I haven't uploaded to this site since they cut the commission rates last year.

So no rejection at all in over a year.

I would like to delete all my images on SS until they come to their senses but when/if they do how to upload hundreds of images again? That's far too much work. Something needs to be done so that they get the drift that paying 10 cents is just not acceptable.

deleting your images won't make any difference to SS policies, so your choice is to delete for your personal satisfaction or leave your images and make some passive income.

And but don't get hung up on the 10c sales - my SS port this year has had RPD of $.60-.80 each month - just a bit less than AS; actual income from SS is still double that from AS. AS sales haven't changed much over the last 2 years, while SS are down about 30%

HappyBunny · « **Reply #44 on:** December 18, 2021, 05:19 »

Quote from: cascoly on December 17, 2021, 19:20

Quote from: HappyBunny on December 17, 2021, 13:22
Quote from: H2O on December 06, 2021, 09:52
I don't have a problem with having any photo's accepted at SS, as I haven't uploaded to this site since they cut the commission rates last year.

So no rejection at all in over a year.

I would like to delete all my images on SS until they come to their senses but when/if they do how to upload hundreds of images again? That's far too much work. Something needs to be done so that they get the drift that paying 10 cents is just not acceptable.

deleting your images won't make any difference to SS policies, so your choice is to delete for your personal satisfaction or leave your images and make some passive income.

And but don't get hung up on the 10c sales - my SS port this year has had RPD of $.60-.80 each month - just a bit less than AS; actual income from SS is still double that from AS. AS sales haven't changed much over the last 2 years, while SS are down about 30%

I had some really good sales on AS but my average SS sale is down to 0.27 cents per image. I have earned more money with AS this month than with SS. I have not got more than 19 cents for an image this month on SS. Mainly just 10 cents. Occasionally 17 cents and 19 cents.

Findura · « **Reply #45 on:** December 18, 2021, 10:33 »

Quote from: cascoly on December 17, 2021, 19:20

my SS port this year has had RPD of $.60-.80 each month ...

You create images and videos?
In SS account there is no way to see the downloads and income of pictures and videos separately? Or is there?
I have not found anything in my account.

Jaggy · « **Reply #46 on:** December 18, 2021, 13:32 »

Quote from: Findura on December 18, 2021, 10:33

Quote from: cascoly on December 17, 2021, 19:20
my SS port this year has had RPD of $.60-.80 each month ...
You create images and videos?
In SS account there is no way to see the downloads and income of pictures and videos separately? Or is there?
I have not found anything in my account.

You can see it on the iphone app when a photo is sold. It shows you how many times it has sold and for how much.

You can also see it on the 'view all top performers page' but you may have to scroll through a lot of images to find a specific one.

Jaggy · « **Reply #47 on:** December 18, 2021, 13:38 »

Quote from: HappyBunny on December 18, 2021, 05:19

Quote from: cascoly on December 17, 2021, 19:20
Quote from: HappyBunny on December 17, 2021, 13:22
Quote from: H2O on December 06, 2021, 09:52
I don't have a problem with having any photo's accepted at SS, as I haven't uploaded to this site since they cut the commission rates last year.

So no rejection at all in over a year.

I would like to delete all my images on SS until they come to their senses but when/if they do how to upload hundreds of images again? That's far too much work. Something needs to be done so that they get the drift that paying 10 cents is just not acceptable.

deleting your images won't make any difference to SS policies, so your choice is to delete for your personal satisfaction or leave your images and make some passive income.

And but don't get hung up on the 10c sales - my SS port this year has had RPD of $.60-.80 each month - just a bit less than AS; actual income from SS is still double that from AS. AS sales haven't changed much over the last 2 years, while SS are down about 30%

I had some really good sales on AS but my average SS sale is down to 0.27 cents per image. I have earned more money with AS this month than with SS. I have not got more than 19 cents for an image this month on SS. Mainly just 10 cents. Occasionally 17 cents and 19 cents.

On SS, my average for 2021 is 36 cents an image. The first four months, when I was fighting my way through the levels, are what killed my RPD. May through December, my average RPD was 46 cents.

cascoly · « **Reply #48 on:** December 18, 2021, 14:34 »

Quote from: Findura on December 18, 2021, 10:33

Quote from: cascoly on December 17, 2021, 19:20
my SS port this year has had RPD of $.60-.80 each month ...
You create images and videos?
In SS account there is no way to see the downloads and income of pictures and videos separately? Or is there?
I have not found anything in my account.

both, but 99% images.
there's a breakdown in the 'earnings summary' for 'cart sales'

TonyD · « **Reply #49 on:** December 18, 2021, 16:12 »

Quote from: pic_pom on December 14, 2021, 06:05

it was better last week, now this week everything gets declined again for crap reasons like noise.

I think I will just stop uploading with them, it is my main income agency with a 4 digit number every month but I cannot take this daily frustration anymore.

Wow you're lucky I only earn a few dollars per month on SS but it still much more than Alamy Abobe and DT but I only have a few 100 photos. I found out some time ago that if I clean up & downsize old pictures taken with my 10+ year old entry level Olympus & Samsung cameras they accept them on SS and one even sold 5 times despite being downsized just over 4mpix in size. It wasn't my idea but someone told me this method on the old ss forum.
Note: downsizing means that you can reduce noise & sharpen a photo from say 20 mpix to 10 or even smaller. useful for cheaper compact cams. If you have a DSLR or mirrorless & you shoot in jpeg in camera only & use a cheaper lens it can still sharpen up nicely. I started shooting in raw to get sharper cleaner photos but ss still rejected pictures with trees & foliage in so they can't be human reviewers.

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