Author Topic: Could it be using a shutterstock controlled revenue system? (Read 58579 times)

Sky · « **on:** May 29, 2018, 11:29 »

Hello
Could it be using a Shutterstock controlled revenue system?
I have asked this question before
In short, you can specify your thoughts.
You can think of fixed sales amount and fixed income values.
Amount of sales declines compared to previous years. Sales have declined since mid-2017

unnonimus · « **Reply #1 on:** May 29, 2018, 15:31 »

I think you are asking if you believe that a stock agency is limiting your sales based on how many sales you already have, in order perhaps to spread the wealth.

it is important for new users to have sales so they remain committed to contributing in the long run.

however I truly believe that the downturn in sales over time is due to standard supply and demand (vast increase in supply and lesser so increase in demand).

rinderart · « **Reply #2 on:** May 29, 2018, 20:00 »

Im thinking a bit of Both.....

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #3 on:** June 01, 2018, 23:46 »

Quote from: Sky on May 29, 2018, 11:29

Could it be using a Shutterstock controlled revenue system?

The short answer is that it's possible, but it's highly unlikely. Nobody has yet produced any compelling evidence to support the theory.

Sky · « **Reply #4 on:** June 03, 2018, 05:34 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on June 01, 2018, 23:46

Quote from: Sky on May 29, 2018, 11:29
Could it be using a Shutterstock controlled revenue system?

The short answer is that it's possible, but it's highly unlikely. Nobody has yet produced any compelling evidence to support the theory.

Yes Thank you

jonbull · « **Reply #5 on:** June 03, 2018, 07:27 »

Quote from: Sky on May 29, 2018, 11:29

Hello
Could it be using a Shutterstock controlled revenue system?
I have asked this question before
In short, you can specify your thoughts.
You can think of fixed sales amount and fixed income values.
Amount of sales declines compared to previous years. Sales have declined since mid-2017

ys. they do. every agency for me is a rollercoaster with unpredictable earning...shutertock is practically a straight upward line. i can easily predict the earning of this mont since now. no matter what u upload. in addiction for company struggling to meet earning per Duarte for analyst a saving of royalty from 0,25 compared to 0,38 is a big saving and can save the quarter. is not a fact that ss is the only agency in the stock market.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 03, 2018, 07:48 »

Quote from: jonbull on June 03, 2018, 07:27

Quote from: Sky on May 29, 2018, 11:29
Hello
Could it be using a Shutterstock controlled revenue system?
I have asked this question before
In short, you can specify your thoughts.
You can think of fixed sales amount and fixed income values.
Amount of sales declines compared to previous years. Sales have declined since mid-2017

ys. they do. every agency for me is a rollercoaster with unpredictable earning...shutertock is practically a straight upward line. i can easily predict the earning of this mont since now. no matter what u upload. in addiction for company struggling to meet earning per Duarte for analyst a saving of royalty from 0,25 compared to 0,38 is a big saving and can save the quarter. is not a fact that ss is the only agency in the stock market.

Thats a good thing isn't it? Steadily increasing income in the face of the tidal wave of new images.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #7 on:** June 03, 2018, 20:16 »

So we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually decreasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually increasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are wildly inconsistent, and in the majority of previous posts on the subject... we have people saying that they use controlled revenue because their sales are extremely consistent.

Very compelling evidence.

qwerty · « **Reply #8 on:** June 04, 2018, 00:36 »

Revenue is so closely linked to position in search.

If you could pick a changed pattern in your search position results when the revenue control system is in-acted at some unknown monthly revenue value you would with a massive amount of doubt confirm that a revenue system exists.

On the doubtful confirmation of the revenue control system exists what are you going to do ?

Open separate accounts in your dogs name ?

I think its a better plan to shoot the best content you can, shoot it with the smallest overheads and quickest time , keyword it correctly and submit.

If that doesn't work time to move onto something else.

jonbull · « **Reply #9 on:** June 04, 2018, 08:06 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on June 03, 2018, 20:16

So we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually decreasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually increasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are wildly inconsistent, and in the majority of previous posts on the subject... we have people saying that they use controlled revenue because their sales are extremely consistent.

Very compelling evidence.

think of this...youhave a business quoted at stock exchange...your revenue are not growing as expected and analyst wait you next quarter to see what happen...you have the possibility to pay 0,25 or 0,38 cent per dollar of revenue. what you would do? especially if the revenue is not growing at all. it's clear they have some controls.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 04, 2018, 08:26 »

Quote from: jonbull on June 04, 2018, 08:06

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on June 03, 2018, 20:16
So we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually decreasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually increasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are wildly inconsistent, and in the majority of previous posts on the subject... we have people saying that they use controlled revenue because their sales are extremely consistent.

Very compelling evidence.

think of this...youhave a business quoted at stock exchange...your revenue are not growing as expected and analyst wait you next quarter to see what happen...you have the possibility to pay 0,25 or 0,38 cent per dollar of revenue. what you would do? especially if the revenue is not growing at all. it's clear they have some controls.

Has the proportion of money paid out declined.....?

jonbull · « **Reply #11 on:** June 04, 2018, 09:37 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on June 04, 2018, 08:26

Quote from: jonbull on June 04, 2018, 08:06
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on June 03, 2018, 20:16
So we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually decreasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually increasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are wildly inconsistent, and in the majority of previous posts on the subject... we have people saying that they use controlled revenue because their sales are extremely consistent.

Very compelling evidence.

think of this...youhave a business quoted at stock exchange...your revenue are not growing as expected and analyst wait you next quarter to see what happen...you have the possibility to pay 0,25 or 0,38 cent per dollar of revenue. what you would do? especially if the revenue is not growing at all. it's clear they have some controls.
Has the proportion of money paid out declined.....?

it has grow like 0,5 if the metric s that in the last financial highlights. anyway let's wait the next quarter, it will be very important.

beginning of june applying, only subs. luckily esp grow fast. personally i have zero hope for ss. i will stay with my level of earning no matter what.

Yay Images Billionaire · « **Reply #12 on:** June 04, 2018, 21:09 »

It actually started out as a joint venture with the CIA several years ago to undermine the stock market. After the CIA realized they had the wrong stock market they backed out but failed to remove the infrastructure for the devious plan.

Saurav · « **Reply #13 on:** June 05, 2018, 05:34 »

Every time I had bigger sales, next day onwards sales have drastically declined. I believe, they are controlling our revenues.

namussi · « **Reply #14 on:** June 05, 2018, 06:13 »

Quote from: Ssx123 on June 05, 2018, 05:34

Every time I had bigger sales, next day onwards sales have drastically declined. I believe, they are controlling our revenues.

There's a much simpler explanation: Poisson clumping.

"Poisson clumping, or Poisson bursts, is the phenomenon wherein random events may appear to have a tendency to occur in clusters, clumps, or bursts.

"Poisson clumping is used to explain marked increases or decreases in the frequency of an event, such as shark attacks, 'coincidences', birthdays, or heads or tails from coin tosses, and e-mail correspondence."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_clumping

namussi · « **Reply #15 on:** June 05, 2018, 06:17 »

Quote from: jonbull on June 03, 2018, 07:27

Quote from: Sky on May 29, 2018, 11:29
Hello
Could it be using a Shutterstock controlled revenue system?
I have asked this question before
In short, you can specify your thoughts.
You can think of fixed sales amount and fixed income values.
Amount of sales declines compared to previous years. Sales have declined since mid-2017

ys. they do. every agency for me is a rollercoaster with unpredictable earning...shutertock is practically a straight upward line. i can easily predict the earning of this mont since now. no matter what u upload. in addiction for company struggling to meet earning per Duarte for analyst a saving of royalty from 0,25 compared to 0,38 is a big saving and can save the quarter. is not a fact that ss is the only agency in the stock market.

Jonbull: you can't even write proper sentences that make sense. I hope your statistical analysis is better. Feel free to share your working.

jonbull · « **Reply #16 on:** June 05, 2018, 07:31 »

Quote from: namussi on June 05, 2018, 06:17

Quote from: jonbull on June 03, 2018, 07:27
Quote from: Sky on May 29, 2018, 11:29
Hello
Could it be using a Shutterstock controlled revenue system?
I have asked this question before
In short, you can specify your thoughts.
You can think of fixed sales amount and fixed income values.
Amount of sales declines compared to previous years. Sales have declined since mid-2017

ys. they do. every agency for me is a rollercoaster with unpredictable earning...shutertock is practically a straight upward line. i can easily predict the earning of this mont since now. no matter what u upload. in addiction for company struggling to meet earning per Duarte for analyst a saving of royalty from 0,25 compared to 0,38 is a big saving and can save the quarter. is not a fact that ss is the only agency in the stock market.

Jonbull: you can't even write proper sentences that make sense. I hope your statistical analysis is better. Feel free to share your working.

i'm not english spark, i write with phone and i agree i write pretty bad, but at least i can try to speak more than a single language like a pathetic idiot like you. i can save mine if you share yours so all world see a pathetic photographer in action.

namussi · « **Reply #17 on:** June 05, 2018, 08:58 »

Quote from: jonbull on June 05, 2018, 07:31

Quote from: namussi on June 05, 2018, 06:17
Quote from: jonbull on June 03, 2018, 07:27
Quote from: Sky on May 29, 2018, 11:29
Hello
Could it be using a Shutterstock controlled revenue system?
I have asked this question before
In short, you can specify your thoughts.
You can think of fixed sales amount and fixed income values.
Amount of sales declines compared to previous years. Sales have declined since mid-2017

ys. they do. every agency for me is a rollercoaster with unpredictable earning...shutertock is practically a straight upward line. i can easily predict the earning of this mont since now. no matter what u upload. in addiction for company struggling to meet earning per Duarte for analyst a saving of royalty from 0,25 compared to 0,38 is a big saving and can save the quarter. is not a fact that ss is the only agency in the stock market.

Jonbull: you can't even write proper sentences that make sense. I hope your statistical analysis is better. Feel free to share your working.

i'm not english spark, i write with phone and i agree i write pretty bad, but at least i can try to speak more than a single language like a pathetic idiot like you. i can save mine if you share yours so all world see a pathetic photographer in action.

1) My spoken Korean is OK, although nowhere near as good as when I lived (and studied Korean) in Seoul. I can read French pretty well, but out of practice in speaking it as I've been in Asia for twenty years.

2) I'm not claiming that Shutterstock is controlling revenue. You are. Prove it by sharing your statistical analysis.

namussi · « **Reply #18 on:** June 05, 2018, 09:06 »

Quote from: Ssx123 on June 05, 2018, 05:34

Every time I had bigger sales, next day onwards sales have drastically declined. I believe, they are controlling our revenues.

That's vague.

For example:

What do you mean by "bigger sales"? How much bigger? Bigger than what? A moving average? More than two standard deviations away from that average?

What is a "drastic decline"? 10%? 30% 90%? Is that decline in numbers of downloads? Total revenue? $ per download? How long does it last for?

How often has this taken place? Once a month? Hundreds of times a year? Over a decade? Over the past two months?

Zero Talent · « **Reply #19 on:** June 05, 2018, 13:06 »

Quote from: Ssx123 on June 05, 2018, 05:34

Every time I had bigger sales, next day onwards sales have drastically declined. I believe, they are controlling our revenues.

What you are saying is that your next day sales are normal and, from time to time, you have a big sale (which is also part of the "normal").

temis · « **Reply #20 on:** June 05, 2018, 13:22 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on June 03, 2018, 20:16

So we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually decreasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually increasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are wildly inconsistent, and in the majority of previous posts on the subject... we have people saying that they use controlled revenue because their sales are extremely consistent.

Very compelling evidence.

temis · « **Reply #21 on:** June 05, 2018, 13:27 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on June 03, 2018, 20:16

So we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually decreasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are gradually increasing, we've got one person saying they use controlled revenue because their sales are wildly inconsistent, and in the majority of previous posts on the subject... we have people saying that they use controlled revenue because their sales are extremely consistent.

Very compelling evidence.

I think the only evidence is that the more you upload the less you earn in ss and this has been happening since 2017. Almost every old contributor is experiencing this. This is fact.

farbled · « **Reply #22 on:** June 05, 2018, 13:34 »

Quote from: Zero Talent on June 05, 2018, 13:06

Quote from: Ssx123 on June 05, 2018, 05:34
Every time I had bigger sales, next day onwards sales have drastically declined. I believe, they are controlling our revenues.

What you are saying is that your next day sales are normal and, from time to time, you have a big sale (which is also part of the "normal").

Kinda looks like they said the exact opposite to me.
I don't understand why so many seem so vehement that there is a random explanation for something that seems so consistent for some of us.

Zero Talent · « **Reply #23 on:** June 05, 2018, 13:47 »

Quote from: farbled on June 05, 2018, 13:34

Quote from: Zero Talent on June 05, 2018, 13:06
Quote from: Ssx123 on June 05, 2018, 05:34
Every time I had bigger sales, next day onwards sales have drastically declined. I believe, they are controlling our revenues.

What you are saying is that your next day sales are normal and, from time to time, you have a big sale (which is also part of the "normal").

Kinda looks like they said the exact opposite to me.
I don't understand why so many seem so vehement that there is a random explanation for something that seems so consistent for some of us.

The explanation is not "random" at all. It is simple and logical.
A big sale = a spike.
A spike is a spike only when it stands out of the normal trend, being preceded and followed by normal and obviously lower sales.
Otherwise it wouldn't be a spike or a "big sale".

farbled · « **Reply #24 on:** June 05, 2018, 13:48 »

Here is a hypothetical since we are not allowed to post actual numbers.

Contributor A makes approx 400 bucks every two weeks, plus or minus 20 bucks or so.

In the first week of the month, they make a large SOD for 100 bucks and their sub sales drop from 30-40 dollars a weekday to 5 bucks for the next 3 days. They know, demonstrably over the course of the last year, they will have low earnings for the next week until they make 400 at mid month.

That is what some of us are saying is happening. We don't know why this is the case, or how it could be some random happenstance that occurs every single month.

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