Author Topic: Change of Most popular (Read 24888 times)

yuliang11 · « **on:** May 09, 2013, 20:32 »

I noticed all my most popular files have changed ranking dramatically with a sudden drop on sales too. Files that are first page are now 4th page and those 4th are now back to 1st page. Anyone experiencing this ?

gostwyck · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2013, 20:45 »

Quote from: yuliang11 on May 09, 2013, 20:32

I noticed all my most popular files have changed ranking dramatically with a sudden drop on sales too. Files that are first page are now 4th page and those 4th are now back to 1st page. Anyone experiencing this ?

Hmm. There does appear to have been a major shuffle in the 'Popular' order with more weight given to best-selling newer images.

Being as it only appears to have happened in the last few hours it is clearly way too early to determine the overall or long-term effect on sales. It should be a zero-sum effect for SS but obviously could affect individual contributors very differently.

roede-orm · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2013, 21:09 »

No changes att all for me. Are you sure?

modviz · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2013, 21:21 »

I've noticed it too.

My laptop "most popular" is different, sometimes VERY different from my desktop "most popular". Very odd since both computers are on the same connection....The laptop is Windows 7. The desktop is XP. Both are Chrome.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2013, 21:24 »

I don't see any changes in terms of Most Popular but I do see on Relevant and quite a big one, file from 1st page is lost, gave up after 25 pages

pancaketom · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2013, 21:26 »

My best seller which was once in the #1 or 2 position and has slowly been slipping since it was removed from "relevant" by a search change went from line 2 to line 4. Another that is #1 (for an obscure search) is still #1.

It has been a good day for me, and I did notice a bunch of old old images sold today, so who knows exactly how they are stirring the search.

falstafff · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2013, 23:29 »

No change here. Sales are still down compared to a month ago or something.

yuliang11 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2013, 03:45 »

Quote from: gostwyck on May 09, 2013, 20:45

Quote from: yuliang11 on May 09, 2013, 20:32
I noticed all my most popular files have changed ranking dramatically with a sudden drop on sales too. Files that are first page are now 4th page and those 4th are now back to 1st page. Anyone experiencing this ?

Hmm. There does appear to have been a major shuffle in the 'Popular' order with more weight given to best-selling newer images.

Being as it only appears to have happened in the last few hours it is clearly way too early to determine the overall or long-term effect on sales. It should be a zero-sum effect for SS but obviously could affect individual contributors very differently.

Right, i think i've been hit. 30% sales drop. Fingers crossed and hope it will be back soon $:-\$

MisterElements · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2013, 08:58 »

ugh lower until I have a BDE

click_click · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2013, 09:02 »

I can also confirm a shuffle of the most popular images with preference to the newer successful sellers.

SS probably wants to have fresher, successful content at the top of the search results rather than longstanding top sellers.

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #10 on:** May 10, 2013, 09:25 »

Quote from: click_click on May 10, 2013, 09:02

I can also confirm a shuffle of the most popular images with preference to the newer successful sellers.

SS probably wants to have fresher, successful content at the top of the search results rather than longstanding top sellers.

I can't confirm your theory but do agree that SOMETHING changed. Being an older, not so successful seller, I guess it does support your theory.

ED: PS; I don't have any pictures of tops.

VB inc · « **Reply #11 on:** May 10, 2013, 11:25 »

How much of it is due to ex istock exclusive content? They might be trying to show more of the newer content

tickstock · « **Reply #12 on:** May 10, 2013, 11:34 »

Poncke v2 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 10, 2013, 12:02 »

Nothing changed here. Sales are back to normal as well the last two days. I do have an image in the Say Cheese lightbox on SS at the moment, but its not making a whole lot of difference.

OM · « **Reply #14 on:** May 11, 2013, 03:39 »

Lettuce hope that they have not fallen prey to the algo-peddlers to FT of previous years.

VB inc · « **Reply #15 on:** May 11, 2013, 10:26 »

Quote from: tickstock on May 10, 2013, 11:34

Quote from: VB inc on May 10, 2013, 11:25
How much of it is due to ex istock exclusive content? They might be trying to show more of the newer content
Maybe 1 or 2%.

i think its probably closer to 5-10% of all recent content. 80% of the rest of the content doesn't contribute too much on the downloads side. What really matters is where these images end up weeks after upload. If they are good solid sellers, they will take up valuable space at the front pages where the majority of the downloads occur. Also, these new image content will be proven sellers. The first images i uploaded to SS were my best sellers from istock. Why waste time uploading an image that never performed halfway decent. Even if there are only 50 that dropped the crown, you can easily have 50,000 solid proven images now competing with the rest of the library within a very short period of time. Increased competition is most likely the reason some long time SS contributors are seeing less downloads.

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #16 on:** May 11, 2013, 11:21 »

Quote from: VB inc on May 11, 2013, 10:26

Quote from: tickstock on May 10, 2013, 11:34
Quote from: VB inc on May 10, 2013, 11:25
How much of it is due to ex istock exclusive content? They might be trying to show more of the newer content
Maybe 1 or 2%.
i think its probably closer to 5-10% of all recent content. 80% of the rest of the content doesn't contribute too much on the downloads side. What really matters is where these images end up weeks after upload. If they are good solid sellers, they will take up valuable space at the front pages where the majority of the downloads occur. Also, these new image content will be proven sellers. The first images i uploaded to SS were my best sellers from istock. Why waste time uploading an image that never performed halfway decent. Even if there are only 50 that dropped the crown, you can easily have 50,000 solid proven images now competing with the rest of the library within a very short period of time. Increased competition is most likely the reason some long time SS contributors are seeing less downloads.

I think the idea of a change comes from seeing "different" downloads rather than "fewer" downloads.

VB inc · « **Reply #17 on:** May 11, 2013, 11:43 »

Quote from: WarrenPrice on May 11, 2013, 11:21

Quote from: VB inc on May 11, 2013, 10:26
Quote from: tickstock on May 10, 2013, 11:34
Quote from: VB inc on May 10, 2013, 11:25
How much of it is due to ex istock exclusive content? They might be trying to show more of the newer content
Maybe 1 or 2%.
i think its probably closer to 5-10% of all recent content. 80% of the rest of the content doesn't contribute too much on the downloads side. What really matters is where these images end up weeks after upload. If they are good solid sellers, they will take up valuable space at the front pages where the majority of the downloads occur. Also, these new image content will be proven sellers. The first images i uploaded to SS were my best sellers from istock. Why waste time uploading an image that never performed halfway decent. Even if there are only 50 that dropped the crown, you can easily have 50,000 solid proven images now competing with the rest of the library within a very short period of time. Increased competition is most likely the reason some long time SS contributors are seeing less downloads.

I think the idea of a change comes from seeing "different" downloads rather than "fewer" downloads.

True. I was just including the "fewer" downloads from another forum post with long time SS contributors complaining and wondering why they were getting fewer dls. IMO, lots of recent actions from SS is to accomodate the exclusives who dropped their crowns and this might be one of the actions to boost "new image best sellers". Other examples are model/property release changes recently. These actions are to make it less time consuming for contributors with hundreds and thousands of images to upload their work. I almost forgot to add the longer wait for approvals especially in vectors.

gemmy12 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 11, 2013, 14:21 »

no change for me too.. as far as i could search and see

leaf · « **Reply #19 on:** May 11, 2013, 14:30 »

It was a big shuffle for my images but I don't know how it will affect sales. I've seen a shuffle like this a few times in the last few months but it has only ever lasted a few days. Perhaps they are tweaking their search or perhaps they are giving new images a chance to make their mark before they go back to the old system again (like they seemed to do the other times).. the images that rose in the new search will then have a better standing in the old search.

w7lwi · « **Reply #20 on:** May 11, 2013, 21:16 »

I don't know if it's related or not, but my sales have been abysmal on SS this entire month. You know things are whacky when Sunday sales are the highest of the entire week. I haven't had a month this bad since the first year I signed up (2006).

falstafff · « **Reply #21 on:** May 12, 2013, 01:10 »

Been with them since 2008. Worst month ever so far.

anthonycorreia · « **Reply #22 on:** May 12, 2013, 08:28 »

Hello all,

At Shutterstock, we perform regular tests of small modifications to search. Those tests are typically released to limited segments of the overall customer population. If a test wins over time – which typically means that the changes have demonstrably increased the total number of customer downloads – then the resulting improvements are accepted and deployed.

Search testing and analysis is a continuous process of small improvements that generally won’t result in dramatic swings in search. Changes are carefully tested and evaluated to make sure that the overall effect on customer downloads and/or purchases is a positive one.

Customer demand, content differentiation, keyword quantity and quality, global holidays, seasonality and other factors can affect an individual contributor's day-to-day earnings. We recommend allowing a little time before evaluating the effect on your personal portfolio.

Sincerely,
Anthony Correia
Director, Contributor Success
Shutterstock|Bigstock

luissantos84 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 12, 2013, 08:59 »

nice reply but again contributors will have to handle once more a change, we are getting used after so many bright decisions from most agencies, so yep will take this one, the next one and after JUST make sure the RPD keeps climbing for the agency of course!

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #24 on:** May 12, 2013, 09:24 »

Quote from: anthonycorreia on May 12, 2013, 08:28

Hello all,

At Shutterstock, we perform regular tests of small modifications to search. Those tests are typically released to limited segments of the overall customer population. If a test wins over time – which typically means that the changes have demonstrably increased the total number of customer downloads – then the resulting improvements are accepted and deployed.

Search testing and analysis is a continuous process of small improvements that generally won’t result in dramatic swings in search. Changes are carefully tested and evaluated to make sure that the overall effect on customer downloads and/or purchases is a positive one.

Customer demand, content differentiation, keyword quantity and quality, global holidays, seasonality and other factors can affect an individual contributor's day-to-day earnings. We recommend allowing a little time before evaluating the effect on your personal portfolio.

Sincerely,
Anthony Correia
Director, Contributor Success
Shutterstock|Bigstock

Thanks Anthony,
Appreciate the "confirmation." I do not think most of us are complaining; just discussing the fact that "another" search engine is "experimenting."
Analyzing is an ongoing activity for us, the contributors, just as "experimenting" is constant with you Our Sellers. $:-\$
Let's hope we all benefit.

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tickstock

Poncke v2

OM

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leaf

w7lwi

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