Author Topic: Account suspended cous some $%# stolen my photo. Scary but true. (Read 26093 times)

jonbull · « **Reply #75 on:** December 17, 2016, 08:04 »

Quote from: dash on December 17, 2016, 06:35

Quote from: jonbull on December 16, 2016, 06:52
why people surprised with this number?
shooting in eastern europe is so cheap you can produce for penny and sell for good money.
i went to a capital of eastern europe, often go there, and last time did some shooting of model, i mostly do travel and general photos.
8 shooting...total paid no more than 250 euro...included model make up most of the time and studio 3 time.
1200 images produced of good quality, girl in eastern europe are so photogenic and so good in front of camera that you barely have to direct them. they are already selling good, i have recovered the money in less than a month.....imagine doing 30 shooting at month...with 1500 euro you can do all rent car, stylist, organize shooting in location.
that's why this guy and most of other russian ukrainaina serbian polish photographer produce like this.
if they had to pay for western europe price they had 5% of portfolio probably.

All depends who you working with. 8 shooting and 250EUR? With makeup? And studio? I would really like to see the results of those shooting. Can you show us?
In every part of the world you can find a model even for free. But paying less to a model (in most cases) usually means that the model is beginner/amateur or just doesnt look and act as professional model should.
So trust me. Even in Eastern Europe if you want to do something professional you have to invest a lot more than 31.25EUR per shooting (so how much did you pay your models? 10-15EUR? Makeup 5EUR?)

BTW: What is "a capital of eastern europe"?

i add that i'm more oriented in fresh look, young girl , and stocksy kind of shooting. natural not too much make up artist. i like feminine more than dolls...i for example never shoot fake model with fake boobs or lips.. i see you are more oriented towards this model.

jonbull · « **Reply #76 on:** December 17, 2016, 08:31 »

Quote from: dash on December 17, 2016, 06:35

Quote from: jonbull on December 16, 2016, 06:52
why people surprised with this number?
shooting in eastern europe is so cheap you can produce for penny and sell for good money.
i went to a capital of eastern europe, often go there, and last time did some shooting of model, i mostly do travel and general photos.
8 shooting...total paid no more than 250 euro...included model make up most of the time and studio 3 time.
1200 images produced of good quality, girl in eastern europe are so photogenic and so good in front of camera that you barely have to direct them. they are already selling good, i have recovered the money in less than a month.....imagine doing 30 shooting at month...with 1500 euro you can do all rent car, stylist, organize shooting in location.
that's why this guy and most of other russian ukrainaina serbian polish photographer produce like this.
if they had to pay for western europe price they had 5% of portfolio probably.

All depends who you working with. 8 shooting and 250EUR? With makeup? And studio? I would really like to see the results of those shooting. Can you show us?
In every part of the world you can find a model even for free. But paying less to a model (in most cases) usually means that the model is beginner/amateur or just doesnt look and act as professional model should.
So trust me. Even in Eastern Europe if you want to do something professional you have to invest a lot more than 31.25EUR per shooting (so how much did you pay your models? 10-15EUR? Makeup 5EUR?)

BTW: What is "a capital of eastern europe"?

...by the way watching your website..in publication i found a girl i shoot for her portfolio in cannes 4 years ago...silicone dolls:) maybe you understand who. funny girl and we didi super photos but to explain she's completely the opposite of what i shoot in stock modeling..

gyllens · « **Reply #77 on:** December 17, 2016, 08:47 »

Jeez! 197000 files and $.300 a day? I agree there must be something wrong. I know somebody at SS with a meager 2500 files and he is earning around $.400 per day. Ok he has a very specialized portfolio but even so.

Suggest you check your keywording and as already pointed out this soft porn business dont help its giving the wrong messages.

Mantis · « **Reply #78 on:** December 17, 2016, 09:03 »

Quote from: Jch on December 17, 2016, 02:55

My port is back online. Thank you all for your advice.

Nice job. I honestly think Shutterstock will (and wants) to do the right thing. They just need a better mechanism for disputes that arbitrates the issue more openly, without closing a contributor account, or closing it temporarily until the open discussion is settled. That would go a long way to building a better partnership with contributors.....especially when that account is the primary (or sole) income of the contributor.

jonbull · « **Reply #79 on:** December 17, 2016, 09:10 »

Quote from: gyllens on December 17, 2016, 08:47

Jeez! 197000 files and $.300 a day? I agree there must be something wrong. I know somebody at SS with a meager 2500 files and he is earning around $.400 per day. Ok he has a very specialized portfolio but even so.

Suggest you check your keywording and as already pointed out this soft porn business dont help its giving the wrong messages.

he era right now in 2017 400 dollar every day with 2500 images...i don't believe even if he show statistic.

Artist · « **Reply #80 on:** December 17, 2016, 11:04 »

Quote from: jonbull on December 17, 2016, 09:10

Quote from: gyllens on December 17, 2016, 08:47
Jeez! 197000 files and $.300 a day? I agree there must be something wrong. I know somebody at SS with a meager 2500 files and he is earning around $.400 per day. Ok he has a very specialized portfolio but even so.

Suggest you check your keywording and as already pointed out this soft porn business dont help its giving the wrong messages.

he era right now in 2017 400 dollar every day with 2500 images...i don't believe even if he show statistic.

It is possible, do not underestimate it.

I know a person earning even more somewhere around $800 a day, but he has very good portfolio of around 30k+ files

jonbull · « **Reply #81 on:** December 17, 2016, 11:57 »

Quote from: Artist on December 17, 2016, 11:04

Quote from: jonbull on December 17, 2016, 09:10
Quote from: gyllens on December 17, 2016, 08:47
Jeez! 197000 files and $.300 a day? I agree there must be something wrong. I know somebody at SS with a meager 2500 files and he is earning around $.400 per day. Ok he has a very specialized portfolio but even so.

Suggest you check your keywording and as already pointed out this soft porn business dont help its giving the wrong messages.

he era right now in 2017 400 dollar every day with 2500 images...i don't believe even if he show statistic.

It is possible, do not underestimate it.
I know a person earning even more somewhere around $800 a day, but he has very good portfolio of around 30k+ files

well 30000 800
is not
2500 400..

noodle · « **Reply #82 on:** December 17, 2016, 12:00 »

Quote from: Artist on December 17, 2016, 11:04

Quote from: jonbull on December 17, 2016, 09:10
Quote from: gyllens on December 17, 2016, 08:47
Jeez! 197000 files and $.300 a day? I agree there must be something wrong. I know somebody at SS with a meager 2500 files and he is earning around $.400 per day. Ok he has a very specialized portfolio but even so.

Suggest you check your keywording and as already pointed out this soft porn business dont help its giving the wrong messages.

Look at the numbers. 30k photos $800/dAy
2500 photos $300/day

so earning 1/2 income with less than 1/10 th the images

That is almost unbelievable
he era right now in 2017 400 dollar every day with 2500 images...i don't believe even if he show statistic.

It is possible, do not underestimate it.
I know a person earning even more somewhere around $800 a day, but he has very good portfolio of around 30k+ files

50% · « **Reply #83 on:** December 18, 2016, 04:37 »

the some thing happened to me a few years ago, it was easy too proof but it took a couple of a days (I think about a week) till I got my portfolio online again. A couple of hundred dollars had been lost for me without my fault I did hope that the handle these kind of issues differently (not able to withdraw money but leave the portfolio online till the case is scrutinized) now but it's still the same