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« Reply #50 on: December 12, 2024, 14:55 »
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Well... Alamy makes a lot of sense to me since they already act as a P5 distributor in order to extend their video offering.
Let's wait and see  ;)

I've been on Alamy a long time - my early image submissions burned onto CDs had to be mailed to their offices in UK.

Alamy currently does not accept video submissions from their own contributors.  They've told us that they intended to open video submissions to their contributors more than once in last few years - but it's not happened. 

Their video content is all from distributors/partners.
 


« Reply #51 on: December 12, 2024, 20:36 »
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Well... Alamy makes a lot of sense to me since they already act as a P5 distributor in order to extend their video offering.
Let's wait and see  ;)

I've been on Alamy a long time - my early image submissions burned onto CDs had to be mailed to their offices in UK.

Alamy currently does not accept video submissions from their own contributors.  They've told us that they intended to open video submissions to their contributors more than once in last few years - but it's not happened. 

Their video content is all from distributors/partners.
If they were smart they'd open it up to video. Seems that now is the perfect time.

ADH

« Reply #52 on: December 15, 2024, 05:52 »
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POND 5 has been dead for a while anyway, who cares what SS does to a dead body

« Reply #53 on: December 15, 2024, 08:39 »
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POND 5 has been dead for a while anyway, who cares what SS does to a dead body

I agree, too, based on my lack of sales.  As I've mentioned before, in January 2024 my sales nearly literally stopped.  My biggest earning has been the dataset.  Month over month zero sales. Previously I would get 3-7 video sales a month. I think I have about 6 for the whole year, several of which are for a net royalty of $2. 

« Reply #54 on: December 15, 2024, 17:24 »
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POND 5 has been dead for a while anyway, who cares what SS does to a dead body

I agree, too, based on my lack of sales.  As I've mentioned before, in January 2024 my sales nearly literally stopped.  My biggest earning has been the dataset.  Month over month zero sales. Previously I would get 3-7 video sales a month. I think I have about 6 for the whole year, several of which are for a net royalty of $2.

Pretty much the same for me as well.

It's crazy how it can go from multiple sales to zero so quickly. I wonder what happened, and yes this trend began before the SS buyout. Maybe they had no more funds for marketing and promotion when competing with AS iS and SS.

« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2024, 20:12 »
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It's crazy how it can go from multiple sales to zero so quickly. I wonder what happened, and yes this trend began before the SS buyout. Maybe they had no more funds for marketing and promotion when competing with AS iS and SS.

P5 showed great potential in the early days of me joining. But sales dropped like a rock as soon as I moved my videos over to my new exclusive account. And that was before the SS buyout. Not sure if that's a coincidence or not.

« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2024, 20:22 »
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I read somewhere (I think on one of Alex Rotenburgh's interview blog posts) that someone had noted Pond5 sales collapsed sometime during 2019. I hadn't started there until around December 2019 so never knew what it was like before then.

Since then, Pond5 has never been a great seller but I certainly had more sales with a smaller port even up to as far as this year in May 2024. But now as Shutterstock's management objectives are beginning to work their magic, sales have plummeted.

They don't even hide their contempt for contributors now, except to add in a line about 'commitment to supporting our artists' and 'earning potential for our contributors', they would of dropped royalties to 10%. I suppose 30% is still not bad really in today's market. But the bigger insult by far is to exclusive contributors.   

« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2024, 13:34 »
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POND 5 has been dead for a while anyway, who cares what SS does to a dead body

Abuse of a corpse is still an offense.

« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2024, 14:50 »
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I still can't understand the pond5 pricing system. One of the last 2 videos sold was 4k, the other was HD.

The price I found appropriate for 4K was $50. But it was sold for $16. I was also paid a $6.40 commission. For HD video, I set the price I found appropriate as $25. It was sold for $22.50. And I was paid a $8.97 commission.

In my participant portal, I set the video price as $50, but if I want to buy it, it appears as $16. So why do I set my own prices for videos?

I set a price of $89 for 4k and $49 for HD for all the videos I recently uploaded. But on the video purchase screen, it appears as $60 for 4K and $48 for HD.


I am a participant from Turkey. And I open the purchase screen with a Turkish IP. Could it be that the purchase prices change automatically depending on the country?


A city under the stars   HD   $22.42   Global Market Earnings   $22.42   $8.97

A time lapse close up of a half moon moving across the black dark night sky.   4K   $16   Individual License 20240102   $16   $6.40
« Last Edit: December 21, 2024, 14:53 by BT1976 »

« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2024, 15:08 »
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I am a participant from Turkey. And I open the purchase screen with a Turkish IP. Could it be that the purchase prices change automatically depending on the country?


Yes - the prices shown are based on country.   

« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2024, 15:13 »
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I still can't understand the pond5 pricing system. One of the last 2 videos sold was 4k, the other was HD.

The price I found appropriate for 4K was $50. But it was sold for $16. I was also paid a $6.40 commission. For HD video, I set the price I found appropriate as $25. It was sold for $22.50. And I was paid a $8.97 commission.

In my participant portal, I set the video price as $50, but if I want to buy it, it appears as $16. So why do I set my own prices for videos?

I set a price of $89 for 4k and $49 for HD for all the videos I recently uploaded. But on the video purchase screen, it appears as $60 for 4K and $48 for HD.


I am a participant from Turkey. And I open the purchase screen with a Turkish IP. Could it be that the purchase prices change automatically depending on the country?


A city under the stars   HD   $22.42   Global Market Earnings   $22.42   $8.97

A time lapse close up of a half moon moving across the black dark night sky.   4K   $16   Individual License 20240102   $16   $6.40


well.... since August 2024 they can price whatever they want. Read contract agreement "we will have sole discretion to adjust the price of any Content to (A) maximize your overall revenue performance, (B) align with our tiered pricing model, or (C) comply with our minimum pricing guidelines;"

So you can set a price BUT it's only a suggestion, as they say... " Video pricing on Pond5 is dynamic and may change over time. When submitting prices, please provide suggestions to help us determine the optimal list price for your clips".

« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2024, 04:02 »
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I am a participant from Turkey. And I open the purchase screen with a Turkish IP. Could it be that the purchase prices change automatically depending on the country?
If someone opens your clip from Germany, they will see a different price.


 

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