Author Topic: Hyperstock (Read 32431 times)

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #50 on:** February 27, 2020, 09:35 »

Quote from: cobalt on February 26, 2020, 04:55

I got a very kind email from pond5 support that my account has now been opted out of Hyperstock.

I‘ll check in a few days if my pics are gone and will post back here.

How can you check if your images are gone when there is no Hyperstock site yet?

How would anyone find their images or how do I find if mine are there? Seems a bit mysterious.

georgep7 · « **Reply #51 on:** February 27, 2020, 10:32 »

@cobalt, thanks for the answer, guess I hae to send another email for my case

@Uncle Pete, as mentioned previous, you add to the main url slash photo slash your image's photo ID. e.g hyperstock.com/photo/123456789 although it is easy all this time to "hide" content by simple transformed it to /item/ or other similar "directory". Even if your image is found, check your contributor name, if you opted-out name is delete_me or something. Guess when site will go up again search function will reveal content?

rene · « **Reply #52 on:** February 27, 2020, 12:10 »

Quote from: cobalt on February 26, 2020, 16:35

I got emails from

Acquisition Associate

and

Administrative & Customer Care

so I guess this is both support and content team.

But I just wrote to contributor support.

Same, I got 2 confirmations. It took 3 days.

As I saved a link to one of my files at Hyperstock I tried it yesterday, it doesnt work anymore.

marthamarks · « **Reply #53 on:** February 27, 2020, 18:11 »

To follow up, I got a satisfactory answer today to my opt-out request.

Thanks to the MSG group for alerting me to this. I'm very happy not to go down this rat hole.

*****

Hi Martha,

Thank you for confirming.

Please know that I have provided your account to be removed by our Content Team who is working on the HyperStock library.

And because our teams are still building the site, please give us some time to process this.

If there is anything else we can do for you here at Customer Care, we will always do our best to help.

thirdbornentertainment · « **Reply #54 on:** March 02, 2020, 15:09 »

The site doesnt work. Just says coming soon??

marthamarks · « **Reply #55 on:** March 02, 2020, 15:48 »

Quote from: thirdbornentertainment on March 02, 2020, 15:09

The site doesnt work. Just says coming soon??

That's called a "holding page." Its purpose is to give a visitor something to see, rather than a black hole on the web, and then get OH SO EXCITED!!! that a new site is about to appear.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #56 on:** March 03, 2020, 09:04 »

Quote from: georgep7 on February 27, 2020, 10:32

@Uncle Pete, as mentioned previous, you add to the main url slash photo slash your image's photo ID. e.g hyperstock.com/photo/123456789 although it is easy all this time to "hide" content by simple transformed it to /item/ or other similar "directory". Even if your image is found, check your contributor name, if you opted-out name is delete_me or something. Guess when site will go up again search function will reveal content?

That's an awful lot of trouble for someone to go to, to find one of my images, on a site that's not available. Or is that so I can search if I'm one of the test people?

Thanks for the answer, I'll wait until it goes live. I thought the problem was, people had signed up for free trial accounts and could download anyone's work, from Hyperstock. For Free!

OK now I get it, kind of. There's a back door to view one of my videos, maybe.

Nothing found. https://www.hyperstock.com/stock-footage/item/105615790

If I did that right?

georgep7 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 03, 2020, 09:20 »

https://www.hyperstock.com/stock-footage/105615790 not there.
"item"was a simple sample how the whole structure can be arranged to hide content.
As far as I remember before deleting photos, user name in Hyperstock went "delete_me".

But you are right, no spare time for blind search, when it will be live, we will see...

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #58 on:** March 03, 2020, 14:02 »

Quote from: georgep7 on March 03, 2020, 09:20

https://www.hyperstock.com/stock-footage/105615790 not there.
"item"was a simple sample how the whole structure can be arranged to hide content.
As far as I remember before deleting photos, user name in Hyperstock went "delete_me".

But you are right, no spare time for blind search, when it will be live, we will see...

And for someone who cares and wants out, it could matter. I don't care, so I'll play Wait and See.

At this point, I'd take a sub for something with no sales. What I don't know is how much? Better than $1.50 or could things be even worse than the SS bottom. I don't know what IS is at now, I'm ignoring them.

cobalt · « **Reply #59 on:** March 06, 2020, 01:16 »

In the forum admin Ryan from pond5 just announced that the Hyperstockproject has been put on hold and they want to focus on improving pond5 first. They will let us know when they restart the project.

You need to be logged in to read the thread.

https://www.pond5.com/community?forum=76121&thread=117761099&page=27

georgep7 · « **Reply #60 on:** March 06, 2020, 03:48 »

...never mind...

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #61 on:** March 06, 2020, 11:18 »

Quote from: cobalt on March 06, 2020, 01:16

In the forum admin Ryan from pond5 just announced that the Hyperstockproject has been put on hold and they want to focus on improving pond5 first. They will let us know when they restart the project.

You need to be logged in to read the thread.

https://www.pond5.com/community?forum=76121&thread=117761099&page=27

L O L Someone just got their brilliant, by committee or corporate idea, for making more money, handed back to them on a flaming platter.

I've seen a CEO, Vice President of an industrial division, top guy in other words, have an idea about marketing and expanding. No one could tell him otherwise, no one could say, that's not our area, we shouldn't be trying that. So he goes off, makes sales boards, product packages, creates everything and forces it on the sales people. I'd say a year later, we get a notice, "ship back everything, boards, products, literature, the program has ended". Kind of erased the whole project and they wanted to make it as invisible as possible.

I'd be willing to bet, that someone at Pond 5 came up with this plan and didn't take time to see how it would work, or how the artists would react. Just waved their hands and made it happen. Almost?

Great, now improve Pond 5, I think we're all behind them.

Great point from someone, Opt In instead of Opt Out, if they go through with this.

marthamarks · « **Reply #62 on:** March 06, 2020, 14:52 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on March 06, 2020, 11:18

Great, now improve Pond 5, I think we're all behind them.

I found this interesting because, just 2 days ago, I had my first P5 video sale since things died there last summer.

Could it be they really and truly, actually, honestly have gotten back to improving P5???

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #63 on:** March 07, 2020, 09:34 »

Quote from: marthamarks on March 06, 2020, 14:52

Quote from: Uncle Pete on March 06, 2020, 11:18

Great, now improve Pond 5, I think we're all behind them.

I found this interesting because, just 2 days ago, I had my first P5 video sale since things died there last summer.

Could it be they really and truly, actually, honestly have gotten back to improving P5???

A friend asked me, so maybe I need to explain. Hyperstock is not "dead" forever, it's just being revised. Typical corporate speak, when a project is a failure and shut down, the press will read, "we are improving other areas at this time." not "We stuffed it, the idea crashed and burned, we're backing up to see what went wrong."

Concentrating on improving Pond 5 means, they don't want to talk about the elephant in the room, so as a diversion they throw us a bone about how they are working on good things for us. Yeah, and meanwhile, Hyperstock will be back, maybe this time with open terms and what is going on, not a surprise announcement that something new is here.

Best answer I've seen is, allow people to Opt In, not force them to Opt Out. That would go a long way to build confidence and trust. The artist makes the decision to participate or not.

georgep7 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 07, 2020, 11:18 »

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A FUN NON CONSPIRACY THEORIES RELATED POST!>>>>>

Quote

I found this interesting because, just 2 days ago, I had my first P5 video sale since things died

"We all had one this week Martha"

Visualab · « **Reply #65 on:** March 07, 2020, 11:26 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on March 07, 2020, 09:34

Quote from: marthamarks on March 06, 2020, 14:52
Quote from: Uncle Pete on March 06, 2020, 11:18

Great, now improve Pond 5, I think we're all behind them.

I found this interesting because, just 2 days ago, I had my first P5 video sale since things died there last summer.

Could it be they really and truly, actually, honestly have gotten back to improving P5???

A friend asked me, so maybe I need to explain. Hyperstock is not "dead" forever, it's just being revised. Typical corporate speak, when a project is a failure and shut down, the press will read, "we are improving other areas at this time." not "We stuffed it, the idea crashed and burned, we're backing up to see what went wrong."

Concentrating on improving Pond 5 means, they don't want to talk about the elephant in the room, so as a diversion they throw us a bone about how they are working on good things for us. Yeah, and meanwhile, Hyperstock will be back, maybe this time with open terms and what is going on, not a surprise announcement that something new is here.

Best answer I've seen is, allow people to Opt In, not force them to Opt Out. That would go a long way to build confidence and trust. The artist makes the decision to participate or not.

I agree with you...it's not that they listened to artists,likely they are not ready or don't see profit in hyperstock...remains to know why...another sign of a desperate agency that have not clue of what they do...

marthamarks · « **Reply #66 on:** March 07, 2020, 14:52 »

Quote from: georgep7 on March 07, 2020, 11:18

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A FUN NON CONSPIRACY THEORIES RELATED POST!>>>>>

Quote
I found this interesting because, just 2 days ago, I had my first P5 video sale since things died

"We all had one this week Martha"

Really?

georgep7 · « **Reply #67 on:** March 07, 2020, 15:04 »

Quote from: marthamarks on March 07, 2020, 14:52

Quote from: georgep7 on March 07, 2020, 11:18

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A FUN NON CONSPIRACY THEORIES RELATED POST!>>>>>

Quote
I found this interesting because, just 2 days ago, I had my first P5 video sale since things died

"We all had one this week Martha"

Really?

I dunno it was a provocative fun post, similar to SS conspiracy theories.
But I have seen also others report sales this week after a long dry period.
Hard to say if within one week of this Hyperstock story clients flood the Pond5 market.
As a side note for a total newbie I had EL and normal sales before Town Hall,
why do you think a newcomer despite that he read all threads on agency practices
was so positive to exclusivity?

skysense · « **Reply #68 on:** April 16, 2020, 12:40 »

After 10 months with 380-698 views and less sales, for 3 months now i have much less views 100-300 (normal, as before) with more sales. Just saying.

dragonblade · « **Reply #69 on:** April 17, 2020, 10:30 »

Quote from: georgep7 on February 27, 2020, 10:32

you add to the main url slash photo slash your image's photo ID. e.g hyperstock.com/photo/123456789

Can one's videos be found in a similar way be replacing 'photo' with 'video' in the url? I tried that with a few of my videos (typing in their IDs) but nothing came up.

Cider Apple · « **Reply #70 on:** April 17, 2020, 12:23 »

Quote from: dragonblade on April 17, 2020, 10:30

Quote from: georgep7 on February 27, 2020, 10:32
you add to the main url slash photo slash your image's photo ID. e.g hyperstock.com/photo/123456789

Can one's videos be found in a similar way be replacing 'photo' with 'video' in the url? I tried that with a few of my videos (typing in their IDs) but nothing came up.

Yes you could a few months ago but they have turned everything off for now. I found a few of mine that way but now they are no longer searchable.

Rage · « **Reply #71 on:** April 19, 2020, 01:09 »

Yup, crap happened, got a video sale for $1. Which of these options do i need to turn off to ensure I'm not enrolled in this hyperstock crap

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Uncle Pete · « **Reply #72 on:** April 20, 2020, 08:22 »

There is no Hyperstock, there never was. It was a test site that was never supposed to be seen and wasn't launched. Beta site, no sales, no way anyone could get a sale yet.

If you don't trust me, go look. https://hyperstock.com/

I don't know where a $1 sale would come from, but not Hypertsock. And for the people who said they got Hyperstock shut down, by protesting, I don't know how someone can get something ended, that never started.

Quote from: izzikiorage on April 19, 2020, 01:09

Yup, crap happened, got a video sale for $1. Which of these options do i need to turn off to ensure I'm not enrolled in this hyperstock crap

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I think you are in the right place: https://www.pond5.com/my-preferences

Turn off Global Partner Program.

Global Partner Program
I would like for my Content to be included in the Global Partner Program which provides incremental Sales opportunities from hand-selected resellers and high volume customers not using the Pond5 marketplace today. Please see section 6 of the Contributor Agreement for additional details.

https://www.pond5.com/legal/contributor

7. Global Partner and Limited Use Licensing Programs

Pond5 has created a Global Partner Program with the aim of promoting Content in geographies, markets and to customers and Distributors that our traditional marketplace may not reach as optimally, and a Limited Use Licensing Program targeted to customer segments with high volume, short duration, digital/social media formats, small audience size, ad-supported models and/or other needs not met by our individual license model to which we will offer more narrow license rights or collections of limited content (e.g. our Membership) for materially reduced pricing determined by us, in our sole discretion, to best optimize total revenue for our contributors. While we believe that participation in these programs will generate additional revenue opportunities for Content, your participation is optional and you may opt out of either or both of these programs for all of the Content at any time on our Website Opt Out page.

If you participate in our Global Partner Program, your license to us includes the right and license throughout the world to market, promote and distribute the Content through Distributors and authorize such Distributors to grant perpetual and term non-exclusive licenses to the Content to their customers under the Distributor’s own license agreements, which may include some or all of the rights that may be granted in the Website form of Pond5 License Agreement.

We will pay you your share of Net License Revenue for Content licensed under the Global Partner and Limited Use Licensing Programs as provided and subject to the provisions of Sections 3 ("Pricing and Your Share of Net License Revenue") and 4 and the Website Payout Overview; provided that as part of our Global Partner or Limited Use Licensing Programs, we will have discretion to (i) set the price of Content and/or agree to compensation structures with the aim of maximizing overall sales of content and revenue to our contributors, and (ii) license Content to customers as part of a pool of works, in which case, we will have sole discretion to allocate the amounts paid by the customer among Content and the other works licensed to the customer on a basis that we in our sole good faith discretion determine is fair.

I'd turn that off if that's what you want to do. Myself I don't care. But if you read that, and you showed you had it checked YES, that's where you will get the cheap sales.

Hope that helped?

georgep7 · « **Reply #73 on:** April 20, 2020, 10:26 »

I don't think that GPP produce $1 sales rather LLP one.
Further, $1 LLP sales come from HD clips priced to the base ($25)
or lower from an added discount or something.
Guess this is the promoted "P5 clips from $20"
Either way unchecking all three options seems the most safe option.
I think that it takes time to apply to content though...

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #74 on:** April 20, 2020, 10:46 »

Quote from: georgep7 on April 20, 2020, 10:26

I don't think that GPP produce $1 sales rather LLP one.
Further, $1 LLP sales come from HD clips priced to the base ($25)
or lower from an added discount or something.
Guess this is the promoted "P5 clips from $20"
Either way unchecking all three options seems the most safe option.
I think that it takes time to apply to content though...

Just a guess from reading and I understand that all that terminology and trying to read English from any other location, as a second or third language could make things difficult. I'll point out the part that stuck in my mind.

Limited Use Licensing Program targeted to customer segments with high volume, short duration, digital/social media formats, small audience size, ad-supported models and/or other needs not met by our individual license model to which we will offer more narrow license rights or collections of limited content (e.g. our Membership) for materially reduced pricing determined by us, in our sole discretion,

That and the part about ad-supported, small audience, social media, short duration, Etc. says to me, cheap use? I may be wrong. Materially reduce pricing? Yeah, that's what really says it for me.

Just in case, some other people, sometimes don't read what I actually wrote. I have no love for Hyperstock and I hope they shelve the plan forever. I'm just trying to deal with the facts and not some response based on forum rumors or a personal negative reaction.

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