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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2025, 09:53 »
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Go tell that to your government. Because the German government doesn't know that there is no war and constantly supplies huge quantities of weapons to Ukraine.


« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2025, 14:03 »
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Go tell that to your government. Because the German government doesn't know that there is no war and constantly supplies huge quantities of weapons to Ukraine.

no matter how many  times you say it, russian aggression in ukraine is not equivalent to WWIII

« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2025, 14:44 »
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A typical phrase of a politically and historically illiterate person.

« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2025, 15:36 »
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Go tell that to your government. Because the German government doesn't know that there is no war and constantly supplies huge quantities of weapons to Ukraine.

no matter how many  times you say it, russian aggression in ukraine is not equivalent to WWIII

Steve, I'm a big fan of discussing political issues here in the forum too. Especially when it comes to American issues, I'm interested in the opinions of people who live in the region.

From months of experience in a now deleted thread because of stoker's misanthropic remarks and insults, I can definitively say: NO DISCUSSION IS POSSIBLE WITH STOKER.

This guy is not really an enrichment for the forum.


« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2025, 17:15 »
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because of stoker's misanthropic remarks and insults
Will there be links to my posts? Or will there be more unsubstantiated accusations and a diagnosis from a doctor?  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2025, 02:21 »
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You just don't know that World War III has been going on for 10 years. They didn't tell you that on your local TV.

It's considerably closer to 11 years than it is 10... maybe they didn't tell you that on your local TV.

« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2025, 03:35 »
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You just don't know that World War III has been going on for 10 years. They didn't tell you that on your local TV.

It's considerably closer to 11 years than it is 10... maybe they didn't tell you that on your local TV.
+100
I just rounded the number. But you surprised me, few people here on the forum can name the number 11.

« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2025, 06:45 »
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furthermore,he accused Zelensky of having wanted this war,and that it should not have resisted against a militarily stronger country like Russia,and that he instead would have made this war end easily.
You've got something mixed up. I don't remember Trump saying that.
But even if he said something like that before the elections, there is nothing wrong with that. The main thing is that he speaks as the President of the United States.

the news is from Fox News on January 23rd.

Trump met with Zelensky in Paris in December,and criticized Zelensky for resisting Russia at the start of the invasion instead of making a deal.

he said clearly: "not even Zelensky should have allowed this to happen.He is no angel."

and Trump then continued:"Zelensky decided to fight but he was going against a much larger entity and he shouldn't have done it."

then Trump recognized Ukraine's courage anyway and then said: "Zelensky has now had enough and is ready for peace".

Trump's only real interest is that the United States no longer spends money on this war,and he is willing to end this war even if it means reaching agreements that are unfavorable for Ukraine.

in my opinion Trump is not suitable to be president of the United States,because he is mainly a businessman and thinks too much like a businessman.

the desire to leave the WHO and the Paris climate pact are a further demonstration of this.

Trump is willing to turn the world into gruyere cheese if necessary,that is,full of holes,it is willing to drill even into the center of the earth if necessary to boost the economy,regardless of the environmental consequences.

I think Harris would have been a better choice.


« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2025, 07:30 »
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I could say something...i will not say something...

As for Ukraine I cannot understand why someone from Ukraine would support Putins bootlicker.

I do hope it forces Europe to stick together more, Ukraine needs a lot more help and support.

« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2025, 07:44 »
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starting from Greenland,which belongs to Denmark and Trump has no right to make these statements and almost threaten Danish Prime Minister Frederiksen.

The Danish Prime Minister has reiterated several times that Greenland is not for sale but Trump perhaps believes he is the leader of the world and has insisted and even continues to threaten to take it by force.

Trump's actions are 100% correct. You just don't know that World War III has been going on for 10 years. They didn't tell you that on your local TV.
Russian orcs, together with the Chinese, will soon occupy the Arctic and Greenland too. This will create a serious threat to all of North America.
Maybe Trump's words are just a scare for the Russians now, but I think that Greenland should be annexed to the United States and a large number of military bases should be placed there.



The same goes for Canada. Canada doesn't have a proper army, Canada can't defend itself in case of war. That's why Canada should become the 51st state of the USA.

I see that Trump's strategy of using international fears works,just to take a territory full of resources such as oil,gas,diamonds,uranium...

Trump is only interested in the resources that can be extracted in Greenland,if he really wanted,he could establish military bases in Greenland in agreement with Denmark since it has been a member of NATO for over 50 years,but no,he really wants control of the island,control of the resources,and also a strategic military base clearly.

Greenland and Canada are not for sale.

« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2025, 08:01 »
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I could say something...i will not say something...

As for Ukraine I cannot understand why someone from Ukraine would support Putins bootlicker.

I do hope it forces Europe to stick together more, Ukraine needs a lot more help and support.

it is already doing it,but the problem is that in Europe we have many different points of view.

However,Italians,Germans,French,Dutch and many other countries are on the same wavelength,and we know how important it is to make Russia and the world understand that war against a sovereign nation is an act that we are not willing to tolerate.

Trump is right about one thing in my opinion,we must invest more in the defense system,more in the military industry.

EU is still very controversial,there are many countries that do not use the euro even if they are in the EU,this in my opinion is wrong to begin with.

then there is Kosovo which has adopted the euro even though it is not yet an official part of the EU,and Spain which condemns the existence of Kosovo,while the majority of Europe approves.

The EU is still full of divergences and contradictions,but we can say that at least the beating heart of the EU is there.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2025, 08:27 by Injustice for all »

« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2025, 09:58 »
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furthermore,he accused Zelensky of having wanted this war,and that it should not have resisted against a militarily stronger country like Russia,and that he instead would have made this war end easily.
You've got something mixed up. I don't remember Trump saying that.
But even if he said something like that before the elections, there is nothing wrong with that. The main thing is that he speaks as the President of the United States.

the news is from Fox News on January 23rd.

Trump met with Zelensky in Paris in December,and criticized Zelensky for resisting Russia at the start of the invasion instead of making a deal.

he said clearly: "not even Zelensky should have allowed this to happen.He is no angel."

and Trump then continued:"Zelensky decided to fight but he was going against a much larger entity and he shouldn't have done it."

then Trump recognized Ukraine's courage anyway and then said: "Zelensky has now had enough and is ready for peace".

Trump's only real interest is that the United States no longer spends money on this war,and he is willing to end this war even if it means reaching agreements that are unfavorable for Ukraine.

in my opinion Trump is not suitable to be president of the United States,because he is mainly a businessman and thinks too much like a businessman.

the desire to leave the WHO and the Paris climate pact are a further demonstration of this.

Trump is willing to turn the world into gruyere cheese if necessary,that is,full of holes,it is willing to drill even into the center of the earth if necessary to boost the economy,regardless of the environmental consequences.

I think Harris would have been a better choice.
This is purely your personal interpretation of what Trump actually said and what he thought. Trump uses general phrases, without specifics. They can be interpreted in any way.
I don't care at all what Trump says, I will judge him only by his real actions and real policies.

« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2025, 10:03 »
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I see that Trump's strategy of using international fears works,just to take a territory full of resources such as oil,gas,diamonds,uranium...

Trump is only interested in the resources that can be extracted in Greenland,if he really wanted,he could establish military bases in Greenland in agreement with Denmark since it has been a member of NATO for over 50 years,but no,he really wants control of the island,control of the resources,and also a strategic military base clearly.

Greenland and Canada are not for sale.
What is NATO? It is a cowardly military bloc, which includes countries such as Hungary, Slovakia (Orban, Fico). The Baltic countries are very afraid, because they know that if they are occupied by the Russians, NATO will not even have time to get together.
Only the US controls the security of democracy.
Greenland is an autonomy.
In short, if the US says that it needs Greenland and Canada, then it knows what it is talking about. A military geopolitical foothold is not a cheap pleasure.

« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2025, 14:25 »
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.....

Trump is right about one thing in my opinion,we must invest more in the defense system,more in the military industry.
.../

but trump wants to have the US ABANDON NATO and other treaties we have while appointing incompetent cabinet positions &getting rid of generals who disagree with him

« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2025, 15:45 »
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I could say something...i will not say something...

As for Ukraine I cannot understand why someone from Ukraine would support Putins bootlicker.

I do hope it forces Europe to stick together more, Ukraine needs a lot more help and support.

Yeh I'm wondering if that bromance is starting to falter though. Trump wants to be seen as peacemaker on the world stage but Pootin isn't accommodating Trump's wishes. The Ukraine / Russia war wasn't an issue during Trump's previous presidency so now this presents a whole new challenge for Trump.

« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2025, 15:48 »
+3
I could say something...i will not say something...

As for Ukraine I cannot understand why someone from Ukraine would support Putins bootlicker.

I do hope it forces Europe to stick together more, Ukraine needs a lot more help and support.

it is already doing it,but the problem is that in Europe we have many different points of view.

However,Italians,Germans,French,Dutch and many other countries are on the same wavelength,and we know how important it is to make Russia and the world understand that war against a sovereign nation is an act that we are not willing to tolerate.

Trump is right about one thing in my opinion,we must invest more in the defense system,more in the military industry.

EU is still very controversial,there are many countries that do not use the euro even if they are in the EU,this in my opinion is wrong to begin with.

then there is Kosovo which has adopted the euro even though it is not yet an official part of the EU,and Spain which condemns the existence of Kosovo,while the majority of Europe approves.

The EU is still full of divergences and contradictions,but we can say that at least the beating heart of the EU is there.

I question why there isn't more support from Europe for supply of weapons. Maybe it's a geopolitical position where other European countries don't want to be seen as directly at war with Russia or they just don't have the finances and weapons to provide more support for Ukraine.   

« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2025, 04:51 »
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I question why there isn't more support from Europe for supply of weapons. Maybe it's a geopolitical position where other European countries don't want to be seen as directly at war with Russia or they just don't have the finances and weapons to provide more support for Ukraine.
Because the EU countries are cowards. They are afraid of everything and they want to be friends and trade with Russian Na.zis and Chinese and north korea.
That's why when I hear the word NATO, only a wry smile appears on my face.
But Trump may change this situation, he is already demanding that NATO members pay 5% of their GDP for defense. Moreover, if the US switches to china and iran and stops aid to Ukraine, then it will be the EU countries that will have to supply more weapons to Ukraine.
War on the territory of Ukraine, who is more threatened by it: the USA or the EU? The answer is obvious to all intelligent people.

Ukraine has no aviation, no missiles, no tanks. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are forced to fight using the methods of the First World War, and this is exclusively a war in the trenches. The number of those killed in such a war is calculated in hundreds of thousands. Ukraine's human resources are constantly being depleted. EU countries are covering themselves from the Russians with Ukrainian blood and are throwing Ukrainians en masse under Russian tanks and Russian bombs. This is the real policy of the democrats. Here's the truth.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2025, 04:58 by stoker2014 »

« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2025, 06:42 »
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furthermore,he accused Zelensky of having wanted this war,and that it should not have resisted against a militarily stronger country like Russia,and that he instead would have made this war end easily.
You've got something mixed up. I don't remember Trump saying that.
But even if he said something like that before the elections, there is nothing wrong with that. The main thing is that he speaks as the President of the United States.

the news is from Fox News on January 23rd.

Trump met with Zelensky in Paris in December,and criticized Zelensky for resisting Russia at the start of the invasion instead of making a deal.

he said clearly: "not even Zelensky should have allowed this to happen.He is no angel."

and Trump then continued:"Zelensky decided to fight but he was going against a much larger entity and he shouldn't have done it."

then Trump recognized Ukraine's courage anyway and then said: "Zelensky has now had enough and is ready for peace".

Trump's only real interest is that the United States no longer spends money on this war,and he is willing to end this war even if it means reaching agreements that are unfavorable for Ukraine.

in my opinion Trump is not suitable to be president of the United States,because he is mainly a businessman and thinks too much like a businessman.

the desire to leave the WHO and the Paris climate pact are a further demonstration of this.

Trump is willing to turn the world into gruyere cheese if necessary,that is,full of holes,it is willing to drill even into the center of the earth if necessary to boost the economy,regardless of the environmental consequences.

I think Harris would have been a better choice.
This is purely your personal interpretation of what Trump actually said and what he thought. Trump uses general phrases, without specifics. They can be interpreted in any way.
I don't care at all what Trump says, I will judge him only by his real actions and real policies.

maybe we should create the Trump vocabulary!  :D  (of course I'm joking stoker2014)

you have your ideas,you agree with Trump's policies,I respect you the same,I don't agree,but you are free to have all the ideas you want,and support whoever you think is best.

« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2025, 06:57 »
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I see that Trump's strategy of using international fears works,just to take a territory full of resources such as oil,gas,diamonds,uranium...

Trump is only interested in the resources that can be extracted in Greenland,if he really wanted,he could establish military bases in Greenland in agreement with Denmark since it has been a member of NATO for over 50 years,but no,he really wants control of the island,control of the resources,and also a strategic military base clearly.

Greenland and Canada are not for sale.
What is NATO? It is a cowardly military bloc, which includes countries such as Hungary, Slovakia (Orban, Fico). The Baltic countries are very afraid, because they know that if they are occupied by the Russians, NATO will not even have time to get together.
Only the US controls the security of democracy.
Greenland is an autonomy.
In short, if the US says that it needs Greenland and Canada, then it knows what it is talking about. A military geopolitical foothold is not a cheap pleasure.

Greenland is still part of Denmark,there will soon be a referendum to become an autonomous government,but it is still in transition,at the moment it doesn't even mint its own currency.

after the referendum the Greenland government will most likely become autonomous,and the Greenland minister has already supported what the Danish minister said,contrary to what Trump says that Greenland wants to be with the United States.

Who knows,maybe the new government will allow the construction of more strategic US military bases,at the moment there is only one for which the United States pays hundreds of millions of dollars a year to maintain.

if the Greenland government wins the referendum,which should take place by the end of this year,will most likely be interested in strengthening ties with the USA,but will not cede its independence,as Trump would like.

« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2025, 07:25 »
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.....

Trump is right about one thing in my opinion,we must invest more in the defense system,more in the military industry.
.../

but trump wants to have the US ABANDON NATO and other treaties we have while appointing incompetent cabinet positions &getting rid of generals who disagree with him

true,Trump's policy is destructive for international relations that have been built with effort in the last century.

his policy focusing on the United States as if it were the master of the world is wrong,The United States is the most militarily powerful country in the world,but it cannot fight the world alone,he would do well to remember this.

Trump also denies citizenship to children born in the US to immigrants,which goes against the US Constitution,I think he forgot that the USA exists because of immigrants.

he is simply a criminal who pardoned himself and is surrounding himself with other criminals,and together they are carrying out criminal acts in broad daylight.






« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2025, 07:34 »
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Trump also denies citizenship to children born in the US to immigrants,which goes against the US Constitution,I think he forgot that the USA exists because of immigrants.
Not from all immigrants, but only from illegal immigrants.

« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2025, 07:47 »
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I could say something...i will not say something...

As for Ukraine I cannot understand why someone from Ukraine would support Putins bootlicker.

I do hope it forces Europe to stick together more, Ukraine needs a lot more help and support.

it is already doing it,but the problem is that in Europe we have many different points of view.

However,Italians,Germans,French,Dutch and many other countries are on the same wavelength,and we know how important it is to make Russia and the world understand that war against a sovereign nation is an act that we are not willing to tolerate.

Trump is right about one thing in my opinion,we must invest more in the defense system,more in the military industry.

EU is still very controversial,there are many countries that do not use the euro even if they are in the EU,this in my opinion is wrong to begin with.

then there is Kosovo which has adopted the euro even though it is not yet an official part of the EU,and Spain which condemns the existence of Kosovo,while the majority of Europe approves.

The EU is still full of divergences and contradictions,but we can say that at least the beating heart of the EU is there.

I question why there isn't more support from Europe for supply of weapons. Maybe it's a geopolitical position where other European countries don't want to be seen as directly at war with Russia or they just don't have the finances and weapons to provide more support for Ukraine.

the answer is simple:"because they eat all the money!"   :D

the truth,in my opinion,is that many EU members do not have all this money available.

I'll give Poland as an example,who most of all needs Ukraine to push back the Russians,due to its geographical position,and the direct border with the Russian ally Belarus.

Poland,therefore,which should be among the nations most interested in helping Ukraine,has long since withdrawn economic aid and sent weapons,they simply cannot afford it.

not long ago Poland declared:"we gave everything we could to Ukraine"

« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2025, 07:56 »
+1
Trump also denies citizenship to children born in the US to immigrants,which goes against the US Constitution,I think he forgot that the USA exists because of immigrants.
Not from all immigrants, but only from illegal immigrants.

a child born in USA is American,according to the USA constitution.

it is illegal,and in my opinion Trump risks impeachment and subsequent removal from the presidency if he continues to rewrite the constitution as he pleases.

« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2025, 07:34 »
+2
Trump also denies citizenship to children born in the US to immigrants,which goes against the US Constitution,I think he forgot that the USA exists because of immigrants.
Not from all immigrants, but only from illegal immigrants.
The US better start building more prisons right now. Laken Riley Act.
    A migrant who crosses more than once would face up to five years in prison, and one who attempts to cross illegally could face up to 10 years.
    The bill also requires a minimum of five years in prison for anyone who has multiple convictions or was convicted of an aggravated felony and then tries to illegally reenter the country.
While the Democrats sheltered and protected the illegals, which got Trump elected, now the sides could be joining to do something.

Laws change as the times change. The old rules about birth right citizens, needs to be revised to eliminate anyone illegal who comes here, just to give birth, which makes their child a citizen. The law was to protect new immigrants, here legally, who were not a citizen yet and welcome new citizen children to the country. It wasn't intended to be an open door for cheating the system, by sneaking across the border, only to give birth, for free and at the same time become a US citizen.

« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2025, 10:26 »
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Biden gave Russian Na.zi putin permission and the green light to occupy and genocide Ukraine.

What did putin and Biden agree on in Switzerland? Zelenskyy asked.



The Ukrainian President reflected on the meeting between Biden and the Kremlin dictator in Geneva before Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy noted that Joe Biden, the 46th President of the United States, and Kremlin leader vladimir putin met in Geneva on June 16, 2021. However, it is still unknown what putin and Biden agreed on in Switzerland.

Zelenskyy said this in an interview with Italian journalist Cecilia Salli for the newspaper Il Foglio.

"We still don't know what putin and Biden agreed on in Switzerland... You know all of this, all of these details. I think you know most of them, because I think that even we don't know all of the details - we assume," Zelenskyy said. "I'm still very curious about what putin and Biden agreed on in Switzerland. I'd like to know."

https://tsn.ua/svit/pro-scho-putin-i-bayden-domovlyalisya-v-shveycariyi-zelenskiy-vidpoviv-2753574.html



 

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