I love it. My kind of humour. But the music doesn't return the power of the images. I would think more like a techno music theme or anything that make fly the listeners over the edges of the sequences. Something that push the absurdity to an other level if it's this that the video is trying to deliver.

Very one sided, especially since the reason that our nation (US) has been in an armed conflict since the 1900's it's because it gets attacked first.
WWI innocent people, WWII Japan, Viet Nam against communism, First Gulf war Iraq invaded first a defenseless country, Twin Towers went down first( no images or metion of that) Afghan terrorist breeding ground and Taliban, Sadam lunatic. Once again very biased and please Hittler killed millions lest not compare Bush to that devil. Don't like it.

Double post

Very one sided, especially since the reason that our nation (US) has been in an armed conflict since the 1900's it's because it gets attacked first.
WWI innocent people, WWII Japan, Viet Nam against communism, First Gulf war Iraq invaded first a defenseless country, Twin Towers went down first( no images or metion of that) Afghan terrorist breeding ground and Taliban, Sadam lunatic. Once again very biased and please Hittler killed millions lest not compare Bush to that devil. Don't like it.

I think you need to refresh your memory: Vietnam has never attacked USA, and probably never will. During that war, USA killed and poisoned (chemical warfare: that's USA) tens of thousands of civilians in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. People in those countries are still stepping on land-mines and undetonated bombs from your heroic war against communism.

The result of that war: Vietnam and Laos became communist regimes anyway (and still are), while Cambodia ended up as one of the most brutal regimes the world has ever seen, killing millions of its own people, only to be saved by the "evil" Vietnamese communists a few years later.

Iraq, as bad as it was under Hussein, has been thrown into havoc by an American occupation that has lasted for five years. People are being killed and molested every day, in much larger numbers than Mr. Hussein could ever dream of. In addition, thousands of Iraqis (mostly Sunni Muslims) have been forced to leave their country to live in refugee camps in neighboring countries, refugee camps where young Iraqi women, some of them children, are forced into prostitution because that is the only way they can earn money to buy food for their families. No money from the rich uncle in Washington to help those kids.

Oh, and by the way: Saddam Hussein never attacked USA either (he did attack Iran though, with American support, and Kuwait without), and he didn't support terrorism. He simply didn't want to share with anybody.

I could go on, but the list is too long for a web-page this size.

Getting rid of lunatics may sound like a good idea, but it's an even better idea to take a long look at what the consequences will be for those civilians that are going to be "saved" as a result of the action. And as for Mr. Bush, he doesn't need to walk far to find a crazy politician. I'm sure there must be a mirror somewhere in the White House.

Quote from: jorgeinthewater on March 12, 2008, 17:45

Very one sided, especially since the reason that our nation (US) has been in an armed conflict since the 1900's it's because it gets attacked first.
WWI innocent people, WWII Japan, Viet Nam against communism, First Gulf war Iraq invaded first a defenseless country, Twin Towers went down first( no images or metion of that) Afghan terrorist breeding ground and Taliban, Saddam lunatic. Once again very biased and please Hittler killed millions lest not compare Bush to that devil. Don't like it.

I think you need to refresh your memory: Vietnam has never attacked USA, and probably never will. During that war, USA killed and poisoned (chemical warfare: that's USA) tens of thousands of civilians in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. People in those countries are still stepping on land-mines and undetonated bombs from your heroic war against communism.

The result of that war: Vietnam and Laos became communist regimes anyway (and still are), while Cambodia ended up as one of the most brutal regimes the world has ever seen, killing millions of its own people, only to be saved by the "evil" Vietnamese communists a few years later.

Iraq, as bad as it was under Hussein, has been thrown into havoc by an American occupation that has lasted for five years. People are being killed and molested every day, in much larger numbers than Mr. Hussein could ever dream of. In addition, thousands of Iraqis (mostly Sunni Muslims) have been forced to leave their country to live in refugee camps in neighboring countries, refugee camps where young Iraqi women, some of them children, are forced into prostitution because that is the only way they can earn money to buy food for their families. No money from the rich uncle in Washington to help those kids.

Oh, and by the way: Saddam Hussein never attacked USA either (he did attack Iran though, with American support, and Kuwait without), and he didn't support terrorism. He simply didn't want to share with anybody.

I could go on, but the list is too long for a web-page this size.

Getting rid of lunatics may sound like a good idea, but it's an even better idea to take a long look at what the consequences will be for those civilians that are going to be "saved" as a result of the action. And as for Mr. Bush, he doesn't need to walk far to find a crazy politician. I'm sure there must be a mirror somewhere in the White House.

I guess by trying to write a short response to a very complicated issue I made myself sound naive, ignorant and stupid. Of course Vietnam never attacked the US, I'm very aware of that. I should have written a more grammatical correct answer and separated more of the historical events of the 20th century. But the facts are that WWI was not started by the US, WWII was not started by the US, the first Gulf war was not started by the US. The World Trade Center towers were not destroyed by the US eventhough some people would love for that to be the case.
   And yes what we have in Iraq is the result of bad planning and poor understanding of history. I guess the last thing in the Bush administrations thoughts was the age long hatred that the Sunnis and the Shiites have towards each other. Saddam was the only thing keeping those fanatics from slaughtering each other like dogs. But "a lo hecho pecho" that is what is done is done and we have to finish what we started and not run away from the problem.
   I enjoy reading the comments on this site and like adding to them. If my views seem strong sometimes you need to just walk in my shoes sometimes. I'm not trying to offend anyone especially here were we seem to enjoy the fellowship. This is not the SS forum where it seems everyone has a chip on their shoulders.
   We will disagree of course on many things but I will hate for this to become another place were we have to tip toe around so as not to offend each other.
    I still don't like the video and yes it is political. My opinion take it that way, you don't know who I'm so that is the way you should take it.
   Peace to all.
  Jorge

Well I deleted the link as I did not intend to offend anyone. Sorry. Again I was looking for comments on the artistic side of the video (not the political).

BTW - This is the OFF Topic section

I thought this was a Microstock board, not a place for people to spew their hatred of the USA. I find it interesting that the moderator is quick to delete threads of other controversy but leaves this trash unchecked.

this is the off topic area so it is allowed to be 'off topic'

I haven't deleted it because people are simply stating their opinions - wethere they are right or wrong is not up to me.  The posts in this thread have been quite cival and debate like - despite the fact that they are strongly appoosed to eachother.  If you look in the boards of the various stock sites you will see many controversial threads - controversy is hardly a thing to be moderated.

Very few threads or posts have been moderated in this forum (largely thanks to the group we have here) and I write a notice when it is done.  Things that are not acceptable are personal attacks or foul language - the few times anything has been moderated it has been for these reasons.

just for interest sake here - In the past 2+ years that this site has been around a total of 65 posts have been moderated out of the  37,868 posts that have been made.

Sorry for my rant (well... not very sorry, but a little bit), but sometimes, a little perspective is useful. Nothing personal. Friends can discuss politics too sometimes, even if they disagree.   

I thought this was a Microstock board, not a place for people to spew their hatred of the USA.

"spewing hatred" is perfectly understandable considering the situation. It's incredible the suffering of the Iraqi people now as a result of America's moronic foreign policy- just as it was incredible the suffering of the Vietnamese people. Just saying "communism" is a completely moronic justification, by the way jorgeinthewater. I think justifying Iraq by saying "Sadam lunatic" is also pretty lame, when you consider all the vaste array of lunatics that America supports when it's convenient to do so. But those who supported the war dont know much about that do they? To them, Saddam= hitler=bad, black and white, us vs them, all very simple, god is on our side, we ll win because we are good and they are evil. Very, very moronic. A country of overweight armchair imperialists that know absolutely NOTHING about the outside would should stick to their tv and donuts.

Well - I can't resist putting my $0.02 in, mostly in regard to the statement
"Just saying "communism" is a completely moronic justification, by the way jorgeinthewater."

Is not.To pass a judgement like the above - one needs to be familiar with the subject. I am - an believe me, while USA and the president do a lot of things which are simple, crude, or outright stupid at times - it does not come even close to the true evil of communism.
I guess some familiarity with history and political systems would be of great help (if not limited to information just from newspapers and just recent years or events).

 It would be good if one restricted his comments to things he is familiar with. It is fashionable (bashing USA) - and I must say this is plain uninformed and simpleminded in this case...

And I am not even American - but things like this really piss me off.

OK, enough of ranting, back to photography.

Oh well, I would have liked to see the video.

Yap Vietnam was a blunder, and Gulf II too. Apart from that, Western Europe would have been an economical desert now under a collapsed Communist regime, South-East Asia (and parts of China) would have been a cruel Japanese protectorate under a godlike Emperor and Israel would have had its second holocaust.

Every century had its superpowers. Don't have to remind what Colonial powers Portugal and Spain did with the Indians and the Belgians in Congo. The US only had only one colony: the Philippines. Instead of * it dry like the Spanish the 300 years before, they installed a working democracy, a judicial system, and above all an educational system from kindergarten up to college. Then, after liberating it at the cost of many tens of thousand young lives from the Japanese, they gave the Philippines the choice between full US statehood or independence. The US installed a working democracy in Japan too, AND in Germany.

The difference between the contemporary superpower and the previous ones is the total democracy, free speech, and a constitution that protects the people against corruption from an absolute state and global freewheeling of power-drunk leaders. There is no Great Firewall in the US like in China.
Mistakes can happen, bad ones like Vietnam. But after a while it gets corrected thanks to the power of the voting people. That's why Obama-Clinton will be elected ;-)

Oh what a cliche! As you well know, they wouldnt be killing each other like this if it wasnt for the war.