Author Topic: UFOs now called UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon) Crowd Stories and photos. (Read 83035 times)

Lowls · « **Reply #650 on:** February 06, 2024, 05:21 »

Sean Kirkpatrick who is supposed to be very careful about what he reveals regarding sensors and methods and means - has been on a whirlwind media tour and he has one thing to say- we found nothing. He spent a whole year looking and found nothing.

The sponsor for some of it - Northrup and Lockhead Martin - you couldn't make it up.

"Sean Kirptarick is a liar and there are FOIAble emails between Kirpatrick and various people, that exist. I know because I've seen them"

https://youtu.be/mKKoDextN_I?feature=shared

"Dr Kirkpatrick even suggested tic tac-shaped objects, such as the one which out-manoeuvred a top gun pilot in 2004 could be explained by a balloon produced in Florida."

Kirkpatrick "discouraged congressional members from investigating UAP and claimed investigations informed by whistleblowers were based on a ‘whirlwind of tall tales, fabrication and secondhand or thirdhand retellings of the same’.

https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/the-empire-strikes-back

Lowls · « **Reply #651 on:** February 09, 2024, 05:12 »

The Hill interviews Mick West Vs The government

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/559433-the-worlds-most-passionate-ufo-skeptic-versus-the-government/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17074431335338&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fopinion%2Fnational-security%2F559433-the-worlds-most-passionate-ufo-skeptic-versus-the-government%2F

Lowls · « **Reply #652 on:** February 15, 2024, 05:55 »

What is going on? This is Mike Burlison 6 months ago after attending the UAP hearings

https://youtu.be/SQxTnz4dQVM?feature=shared

This is now. A quick snapshot interview with Matt Laslo

“I'm working on it. Right now, I've got something up my sleeve. I don't want to talk. I’ll keep you informed, because I got a big thing that I'm gonna announce,”
@RepEricBurlison
tells Ask a Pol.

"UAP related?”

“Yes.”

He was skeptical and facially he appeared to find the whole thing a bit silly. What has changed his mind and what is he going to announce? Kirkpatrick has literally destroyed the notion that UAPs even exist. He should know right?

stoker2014 · « **Reply #653 on:** February 15, 2024, 06:05 »

Already 27 pages in the topic. Can anyone answer whether UFOs and aliens exist or not?

Lowls · « **Reply #654 on:** February 15, 2024, 08:22 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 06:05

Already 27 pages in the topic. Can anyone answer whether UFOs and aliens exist or not?

Well don't forget that the original intention of this subject wasn't to discuss that it was a question of had anyone captured a UAP in their photography. Bit of fun. Coincidentally David Grusch arrived and the scenario changed radically.
UAP - yes they do no idea what they are
Aliens - yes they do.
Are they here - jury is out at present.

Lowls · « **Reply #655 on:** February 16, 2024, 04:14 »

Republican Ralph Norman exits a SCIF yesturday and is interviewed by Matt Laslo after speaking to news nation. They had interviewed Luis Elizondo ex head of AATIP who investigated UAP for the government. He brought two pilots and a scientist with him and showed them why they should be concerned.

Here is Ralph Norman's statement audio file. Click link half way down page to listen.

https://open.substack.com/pub/askapol/p/sneak-peek-rep-norman-says-lue-elizondo?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Lowls · « **Reply #656 on:** March 10, 2024, 12:55 »

Disclosure has been dealt a blow by ex head of AARO in his leaving report for historic reporting on UAP - Sean Kirkpatrick states in summery " its all fake and misidetification brewed up by a select few to hoodwink the government"

and the response https://www.youtube.com/live/Vw_uTkRe8rI?feature=shared

cascoly · « **Reply #657 on:** March 10, 2024, 13:56 »

Quote from: Lowls on March 10, 2024, 12:55

Disclosure has been dealt a blow by ex head of AARO in his leaving report for historic reporting on UAP - Sean Kirkpatrick states in summery " its all fake and misidetification brewed up by a select few to hoodwink the government"

and the response https://www.youtube.com/live/Vw_uTkRe8rI?feature=shared

the report itself is much more measured though surely a disappointment to true believers - it said there was no evidence of extraterrestrials nor of crashed ships and that testimony from 'experts 'lacked actual corroboration from physical evidence or others and was often hearsay or worse ("a friend of a friend knows somebody...") they also discuss interpretation of various recording purporting to defynphysics and show errors in their analysis.

conclusion - still no there there.

Lowls · « **Reply #658 on:** March 10, 2024, 16:31 »

Quote from: cascoly on March 10, 2024, 13:56

Quote from: Lowls on March 10, 2024, 12:55
Disclosure has been dealt a blow by ex head of AARO in his leaving report for historic reporting on UAP - Sean Kirkpatrick states in summery " its all fake and misidetification brewed up by a select few to hoodwink the government"

and the response https://www.youtube.com/live/Vw_uTkRe8rI?feature=shared

the report itself is much more measured though surely a disappointment to true believers - it said there was no evidence of extraterrestrials nor of crashed ships and that testimony from 'experts 'lacked actual corroboration from physical evidence or others and was often hearsay or worse ("a friend of a friend knows somebody...") they also discuss interpretation of various recording purporting to defynphysics and show errors in their analysis.

conclusion - still no there there.

agreed. But Kirkpatrick is gonna go to jail if he isn't careful. Congress is going to go after him.

Lowls · « **Reply #659 on:** March 13, 2024, 04:34 »

coming soon Dr Garry Nolan on ND Tyson

https://www.reddit.com/r/StrangeEarth/comments/1aepe4j/james_fox_shares_an_exclusive_clip_from_his/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #660 on:** March 22, 2024, 13:47 »

Here are the facts.

A newly published government report states that not only is there no proof of any secret effort by the U.S. government to cooperate with aliens or research alien technology, there is no proof that UFO sightings are the result of extraterrestrial visitations to Earth. The “Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP),” written by the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, denies all claims regarding the U.S. government and UFOs, stating that they are the result of decreased public trust in government, the prevalence of UFOs in public culture, and unnecessary government secrecy.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a60165911/pentagon-ufo-report/

Lowls · « **Reply #661 on:** March 25, 2024, 05:09 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on March 22, 2024, 13:47

Here are the facts.

A newly published government report states that not only is there no proof of any secret effort by the U.S. government to cooperate with aliens or research alien technology, there is no proof that UFO sightings are the result of extraterrestrial visitations to Earth. The “Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP),” written by the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, denies all claims regarding the U.S. government and UFOs, stating that they are the result of decreased public trust in government, the prevalence of UFOs in public culture, and unnecessary government secrecy.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a60165911/pentagon-ufo-report/

Incorrect. The report was written by Sean Kirkpatrick and Sean Kirpatrick has lied demonstrably. He states that the narrative has been led by a core of ufologists who have deveieved Congress for its own ends.

This is not true. Danny Sheehan represents 45 whistle blowers who contacted AARO and gave evidence under extremely unscientific and non-evidentiary conditions (phone interview with no recordings made of the interview just notes taken by a interviewer). These interviews produced no further investigation of the details given. This has also been revealed. Sean Kirkpatrick called some organisations within the ICIG framework and asked if they had anything and he was told no. This concluded his investigations.

To post what you have and hold it up as evidence is frankly hilarious, disingenuous, and patently wrong. It is widely known across the ICIG, Congress and the wider inteliegence world and ufology that the report is only good for wiping your arse with.

That's not a hope, a belief, a claim or anything else. It is factually, provably incorrect containing demonstrably false statements. It was late, it was rushed and it has a get out of jail free clause that states "if any of the information contained here is incorrect we reserve the right to amend it at a future date".

Claims that UFOlogists attempted to break into Kirkpatricks home and caused great alarm have been debunked and were fact checked to show that 'a' ufologist knocked at his door to speak to him.

You should research more and stop posting biased, contextually incorrect statements which are anything but "the facts"

You can claim otherwise if you wish and call Danny Sheehan a liar publicly ...

stoker2014 · « **Reply #662 on:** March 25, 2024, 06:45 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on March 22, 2024, 13:47

Here are the facts.

A newly published government report states that not only is there no proof of any secret effort by the U.S. government to cooperate with aliens or research alien technology, there is no proof that UFO sightings are the result of extraterrestrial visitations to Earth. The “Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP),” written by the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, denies all claims regarding the U.S. government and UFOs, stating that they are the result of decreased public trust in government, the prevalence of UFOs in public culture, and unnecessary government secrecy.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a60165911/pentagon-ufo-report/

But what about all these stories about how there are flying saucers and dead humanoids in the USA?
So, this means there is only one conclusion, UFOs and aliens do not exist and they have never arrived on planet earth.

alan b traehern · « **Reply #663 on:** April 05, 2024, 08:37 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 06:05

Already 27 pages in the topic. Can anyone answer whether UFOs and aliens exist or not?

In Search Of

The Holy Grail
the Loch Ness Monster
Armageddon predictions
Mermaids
Fairies
Ghosts
Big Foot
El Chupacabra
A race of giants
Aliens visit in UFOs

Or do something else useful with your time. Anybody who disagrees is a liar or a government agent. UAP are real, they just aren't aliens.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #664 on:** April 05, 2024, 09:32 »

Quote from: alan b traehern on April 05, 2024, 08:37

UAP are real, they just aren't aliens.

Who are they?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #665 on:** April 05, 2024, 13:45 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 05, 2024, 09:32

Quote from: alan b traehern on April 05, 2024, 08:37
UAP are real, they just aren't aliens.
Who are they?

That's a politically correct term for non-gender, non-racial, unidentified objects, which are as a collection, "they". Otherwise the answer might be, people see something but IT isn't aliens?

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 06:05

Already 27 pages in the topic. Can anyone answer whether UFOs and aliens exist or not?

UFOs exist, whatever name anyone wants to call them. Just by definition, if something flies and it's unidentified, it's a UFO. The whole leap of faith is, that somehow we are being visited by aliens, just because something is unexplained. They are not universally one in the same, except for the "believers". Aliens might exist, but there has been no proof yet. The other side of that assumption is, The universe seems pretty large and endless, we might guess, logically and even using math, that other life forms, and maybe other intelligent beings, could possibly exist. No proof that they are visiting us.

Quote from: Lowls on February 15, 2024, 08:22

Well don't forget that the original intention of this subject wasn't to discuss that it was a question of had anyone captured a UAP in their photography. Bit of fun.

Oh this was supposed to be fun? OK, here's my UFO photograph, and it's real, so there's your proof.

This is more real than Billy Meier.

Early UFO stories boosted newspaper and magazine sales, mystery strange tales book sales, and today they are reliable clickbait online.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #666 on:** April 05, 2024, 14:08 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 05, 2024, 13:45

That's a politically correct term for non-gender, non-racial, unidentified objects, which are as a collection, "they". Otherwise the answer might be, people see something but IT isn't aliens?

I thought this topic was about aliens. The press constantly wrote that there were dead humanoids and flying saucers at US military bases. In this thread, as I understand it, this was discussed. So I’m wondering if humanoids and flying saucer are available or not?

Lowls · « **Reply #667 on:** April 06, 2024, 10:07 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 05, 2024, 13:45

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 05, 2024, 09:32
Quote from: alan b traehern on April 05, 2024, 08:37
UAP are real, they just aren't aliens.
Who are they?

That's a politically correct term for non-gender, non-racial, unidentified objects, which are as a collection, "they". Otherwise the answer might be, people see something but IT isn't aliens?

wow

Lowls · « **Reply #668 on:** April 06, 2024, 10:16 »

Quote from: alan b traehern on April 05, 2024, 08:37

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 15, 2024, 06:05
Already 27 pages in the topic. Can anyone answer whether UFOs and aliens exist or not?

In Search Of

The Holy Grail
the Loch Ness Monster
Armageddon predictions
Mermaids
Fairies
Ghosts
Big Foot
El Chupacabra
A race of giants
Aliens visit in UFOs

Or do something else useful with your time. Anybody who disagrees is a liar or a government agent. UAP are real, they just aren't aliens.

Like posting this eh 👆 and ... "they just aren't aliens" ... phew finally someone who's called it. Ok I cannot wait to see your evidence and I'll pass that on to the great and the good so this can all stop. Do you want to post it all here or you gonna drop a utube?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #669 on:** April 10, 2024, 11:19 »

Quote from: Lowls on April 06, 2024, 10:07

Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 05, 2024, 13:45
Quote from: stoker2014 on April 05, 2024, 09:32
Quote from: alan b traehern on April 05, 2024, 08:37
UAP are real, they just aren't aliens.
Who are they?

That's a politically correct term for non-gender, non-racial, unidentified objects, which are as a collection, "they". Otherwise the answer might be, people see something but IT isn't aliens?

wow

It would take a sense of humor to understand the politically correct language and current gender terms police. We aren't males or female anymore, the PC crowd wants us to be called "They". And since we don't know what gender aliens might be, we'd probably want to call them "It" instead of they? Or maybe that's rude and the unknown life forms are they and not it?

First problem is, no one has proof that "they" exist, or that "they" are visiting us, lights in the sky are not they, lights are an IT. As in It Came From Outer Space

Beware of the giant eyeball alien in the mine.

Anyone think any of this sounds familiar and like modern alien stories? Crashed ship, in the desert, 1953, Arizona, abductions... "Putnam finally discovers the spaceship and learns from the alien leader that they crashed on Earth by accident; the aliens appear benign and only plan to stay on Earth just long enough to repair their damaged craft and then continue on their voyage. The aliens' real appearance, when finally revealed to Putnam, is entirely non-human: they are large, single-eyed, almost jellyfish-like beings that seem to glide across the ground, leaving a glistening trail that soon vanishes. They are also able to shape shift into human form in order to appear human and move around Sand Rock, unobserved, in order to collect their much needed repair materials. To do this, they copy the human forms of the local townspeople that they have abducted. In doing so, however, they fail to reproduce the townspeople's exact personalities, leading to suspicion and eventually to the deaths of two of the aliens. "

stoker2014 · « **Reply #670 on:** April 10, 2024, 13:08 »

I think society is not being told a lot. I see this in the example of Ukraine. There is zero information about Ukraine on US TV channels. But in Ukraine there is war and genocide. The same can be said about UFOs and aliens. The media of mass disinformation simply do not talk about it and everyone thinks that it means none of this. It's simple. This is a massive deception of the masses through the media.

Lowls · « **Reply #671 on:** April 11, 2024, 05:32 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 10, 2024, 13:08

I think society is not being told a lot. I see this in the example of Ukraine. There is zero information about Ukraine on US TV channels. But in Ukraine there is war and genocide. The same can be said about UFOs and aliens. The media of mass disinformation simply do not talk about it and everyone thinks that it means none of this. It's simple. This is a massive deception of the masses through the media.

I'm not sure now without looking but prior to the end of the year there were riots in Russia protesting the war, riots on France protesting the proposed increase in state pension age pushing many out of its payment window and into retired poverty, riots in Greece, riots in Spain and Germany and Turkey. There have been protests in Hong Kong too. So there are a LOT of public outcomes to the feral leaderships dragging each country into poverty, discrimination, removal of freedoms, heavy taxation and wars. And yet major news channels report on Princess Kate and Harry and Megan. It is shambolic bought and paid for radio silence across news platforms. I've only followed these things via other social media. But we are on the brink of something quite significantly bad and these feral governments are being aged out by technology and social media and the speed with which information is making it out there.

Is this process being used to hush up UAP - categorically fact. Will there be a so called catastrophic disclosure. I hope so but I am surprised it hasn't happened already and some of the main players who would are saying things like "yeah but could the human race cope with such a disclosure given what could be revealed as the outcome" and "what if by revealing what is happening it pushes forward a schedule that we are just not ready to defend ourselves against but by revealing it, it forces that schedule to rapidly speed up"
Clearly those people know or have been told much more detail and are backing off. So it is weirdly hanging there ready to pop but it hasn't. And that doesn't seem very good.

Lowls · « **Reply #672 on:** April 11, 2024, 05:33 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 10, 2024, 11:19

Quote from: Lowls on April 06, 2024, 10:07
Quote from: Uncle Pete on April 05, 2024, 13:45
Quote from: stoker2014 on April 05, 2024, 09:32
Quote from: alan b traehern on April 05, 2024, 08:37
UAP are real, they just aren't aliens.
Who are they?

That's a politically correct term for non-gender, non-racial, unidentified objects, which are as a collection, "they". Otherwise the answer might be, people see something but IT isn't aliens?

wow

It would take a sense of humor to understand the politically correct language and current gender terms police. We aren't males or female anymore, the PC crowd wants us to be called "They". And since we don't know what gender aliens might be, we'd probably want to call them "It" instead of they? Or maybe that's rude and the unknown life forms are they and not it?

First problem is, no one has proof that "they" exist, or that "they" are visiting us, lights in the sky are not they, lights are an IT. As in It Came From Outer Space

Beware of the giant eyeball alien in the mine.

Anyone think any of this sounds familiar and like modern alien stories? Crashed ship, in the desert, 1953, Arizona, abductions... "Putnam finally discovers the spaceship and learns from the alien leader that they crashed on Earth by accident; the aliens appear benign and only plan to stay on Earth just long enough to repair their damaged craft and then continue on their voyage. The aliens' real appearance, when finally revealed to Putnam, is entirely non-human: they are large, single-eyed, almost jellyfish-like beings that seem to glide across the ground, leaving a glistening trail that soon vanishes. They are also able to shape shift into human form in order to appear human and move around Sand Rock, unobserved, in order to collect their much needed repair materials. To do this, they copy the human forms of the local townspeople that they have abducted. In doing so, however, they fail to reproduce the townspeople's exact personalities, leading to suspicion and eventually to the deaths of two of the aliens. "

There was no intention on the part of the poster to imply a gender issue.

No you took it upon your self to turn it into that because of "the politically correct language and current gender terms police. We aren't males or female anymore, the PC crowd wants us to be called "They".

You bigot, nothing of the sort is happening in the slightest. A political movement decided to neutralise pronouns to strengthen weakening equality based on gender and gender pay gaps, rights a freedoms on a global setting.

This then seeped over and into other areas of society and was taken up by various minority groups and lumped in the LGBTQ+ blah blah gang as a way of thwarting discriminatory legislation.

A noble cause given that it is illegal to be LGBT in 64 UN member States. In Brunei, Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, the death penalty is imposed across the county.

The latest was Uganda last year who cried in the streets with joy that a god that was forced violently on them by missionaries was now saved by this new law.

Whilst attempting to enforce the pronoun "they" is imo a nonsese when speaking to an individual I do respect their right to identify as non gender if they wish. And contrary to the popular trope that there are only two genders there are three and has been for as long as there have been humans and is increasing. Male, female and intersex formally hermaphrodite. Which is often quoted as rare but is anything but. It is however a minority classification and isn't a fixed percentage yet they do carry both reproductive organs, internally and externally to varying degrees as well as variations from the XX and XY formats as well as wide ranging hormone levels as do we all.

Finally this was a thread about UAP and it should NOT stray from that and into your personal feelings regarding that or for that matter any minority group in a derogatory tone again, mocking or otherwise.

Stock4Me · « **Reply #673 on:** April 11, 2024, 08:12 »

Space aliens are a minority group? Pete was right, you have no sense of humor and can't recognize a joke.

cascoly · « **Reply #674 on:** April 11, 2024, 09:30 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on April 10, 2024, 13:08

I think society is not being told a lot. I see this in the example of Ukraine. There is zero information about Ukraine on US TV channels. But in Ukraine there is war and genocide. The same can be said about UFOs and aliens. The media of mass disinformation simply do not talk about it and everyone thinks that it means none of this. It's simple. This is a massive deception of the masses through the media.

i agree - every day headlines should announce "still no evidence of any extraterrestrial beings or ET wreckage here on earth"

and TV 'news' stations dont report on many significant topics every day. you need to find real sources of news -- eg, the NYTimes and others report on Ukraine last every day - the facts are there if you want them

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