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Greece would have gone to the drachma on a promise of looking at debt write-offs, but if Schwaeble went to his electorate to say that Germany had to forgive 30bn euros just to get Greece back to where it was before the drachma depreciated, plus another 15 billion to ensure sustainability, plus a generous social support package to keep the people going .... well, I don't think he'd survive the political fallout.
Quote from: Titus Livius on July 08, 2015, 02:31Quote from: StockPhotosArt on July 07, 2015, 16:15The strength of Europe has always been the diversity, the different successful paths explored by different nations which would serve as an example to other nations to improve themselves. Looking at the history of Europe we can find in each century a different nation pushing the continent forward, and that was what put us in the vanguard of so many things. Many bad things have happened, but the positive ones are HUGE, from technological advances to the humanitarian concepts.This monolithic, centralized, bureaucratic, opaque and anti-democratic organization that the EU has become is killing all of this and that is the reason why we are falling behind.yes and yes !the EU is killing our core identity and our soul.europe has NEVER been united into a monolithic bloc in the last 3000 yrs and for very good reasons.what we're witnessing now is a horrible social engineering experiment on our skin and of course it's miserably failing.you just can't turn greece or poland into germany or viceversa, no matter what the eurocrats smoked, it's just not that easy to turn us into a bunch of zombies and drones.the only way to make permanent changes is to give real benefits, not to make our life worse than before.an alliance of small states can only work if everyone has something to gain, now instead everyone is losing and told to shut the F up. Sorry, but that is just too funny. The EU is not trying to turn any country into Germany. It tries or wants to make things better and easierhttp://econ.economicshelp.org/2007/03/benefits-of-european-union.htmlLets not forget, all countries using the Euro agreed to the terms to join. No one was forced into joining. Its still a democracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_related_to_the_European_Union#Euro *)
Quote from: StockPhotosArt on July 07, 2015, 16:15The strength of Europe has always been the diversity, the different successful paths explored by different nations which would serve as an example to other nations to improve themselves. Looking at the history of Europe we can find in each century a different nation pushing the continent forward, and that was what put us in the vanguard of so many things. Many bad things have happened, but the positive ones are HUGE, from technological advances to the humanitarian concepts.This monolithic, centralized, bureaucratic, opaque and anti-democratic organization that the EU has become is killing all of this and that is the reason why we are falling behind.yes and yes !the EU is killing our core identity and our soul.europe has NEVER been united into a monolithic bloc in the last 3000 yrs and for very good reasons.what we're witnessing now is a horrible social engineering experiment on our skin and of course it's miserably failing.you just can't turn greece or poland into germany or viceversa, no matter what the eurocrats smoked, it's just not that easy to turn us into a bunch of zombies and drones.the only way to make permanent changes is to give real benefits, not to make our life worse than before.an alliance of small states can only work if everyone has something to gain, now instead everyone is losing and told to shut the F up.
The strength of Europe has always been the diversity, the different successful paths explored by different nations which would serve as an example to other nations to improve themselves. Looking at the history of Europe we can find in each century a different nation pushing the continent forward, and that was what put us in the vanguard of so many things. Many bad things have happened, but the positive ones are HUGE, from technological advances to the humanitarian concepts.This monolithic, centralized, bureaucratic, opaque and anti-democratic organization that the EU has become is killing all of this and that is the reason why we are falling behind.