Author Topic: Still funny? Not anymore? (Read 11523 times)

stoker2014 · « **Reply #450 on:** **Yesterday** at 16:04 »

The total tariff against China is already 54%. This is great news! This is a blow to the brain of all world terrorism! This is a blow to communism!
Trump is great!

stoker2014 · « **Reply #451 on:** **Yesterday** at 16:06 »

The White House warned that anyone who resists Trump's policies will receive even higher tariffs. Therefore, I would not recommend that the parasites enter into an alliance with totalitarian China.

Wilm · « **Reply #452 on:** **Yesterday** at 16:28 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on Yesterday at 15:49

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If the EU imposed tariffs on the US at 39%, why did the US only impose 20% in response? Can anyone explain this?

Sure.

The official answer, as given by Trump is that the USA are "nice" and therefore charge only half of what the others allegedly charge.

The real answer is that those numbers are complete hokum anyway. According to reports in the German media, they are just calulated from the trade deficit the USA have with each country.

https://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2025-04/us-zoelle-donald-trump-handelskonflikt-produkte-auswirkungen
So what are your complaints about the USA then?
The EU has imposed a 39% tariff on the US and is still unhappy. Unheard of impudence!

No!

The “39 percent”:

It's about a trade deficit from the US perspective.

The USA has imported goods worth 605 billion dollars from the EU and exported goods worth 370 billion dollars to the EU. The difference is 38.8 - rounded up to 39 - percent. Trump's misrepresentation is therefore not a difference in the tariffs imposed, but a trade deficit in direct comparison.

Let's take the example of cars. Many more cars were exported from the EU to the USA than vice versa. Why Europeans are less keen on US cars than vice versa would be the first question Trump would have to ask himself. And he would have to ask the same of other products.

Trump is now trying to even out the import and export difference through tariffs.

And it looks like he is only taking goods into account. If digital products were included in the calculation, things would look very different. Google, Facebook, WhatsApp, X, ... all make trillions of dollars and pay virtually no taxes. That would have to be included in a fair calculation (Trump always talks about fairness). Not at this point!
1. Why do you think that something is not included in the amount of 370 billion dollars.
2. The EU should therefore be happy that Trump imposed only 20% tariffs, not 39%.
3. How this will affect Ukraine, I do not write, because I am not a parasite and do not think in terms of the fullness of my refrigerator. Trump is making America great again and does not want to feed parasites.

Re 1: Please read what I wrote - either you can't read or you don't understand. At no point did I write that anything was not included in the 370 billion US dollars...

Re 2: You didn't get that either. Fictitious example: Ukraine exports grain to Poland for 95 million dollars. Poland exports vodka to Ukraine for 5 million dollars. So Poland can impose 95% punitive tariffs on Ukrainian grain to compensate for this trade difference?

Re 3: Yes, Trump wants money from parasites. That's why he demanded a 500 billion US dollar deal from Ukraine - in the form of rare earths, etc. Now the tariffs are on top of that. And, to top it off, he is also demanding a thousand-fold thank-you from these parasites.

Wilm · « **Reply #453 on:** **Yesterday** at 16:37 »

From what I read, you're a real fascist, stoker2014.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #454 on:** **Yesterday** at 17:21 »

Quote from: Wilm on Yesterday at 16:37

From what I read, you're a real fascist, stoker2014.

I think that parasites need to read the definition of fascism first. Trump is engaged in protectionism and the fight against world evil.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #455 on:** **Yesterday** at 17:24 »

Quote from: Wilm on Yesterday at 16:28

Quote from: stoker2014 on Yesterday at 15:49
Quote from: Wilm on Yesterday at 15:22
Quote from: stoker2014 on Yesterday at 13:17
Quote from: Big Toe on Yesterday at 12:34
Quote from: stoker2014 on Yesterday at 05:31
If the EU imposed tariffs on the US at 39%, why did the US only impose 20% in response? Can anyone explain this?

Sure.

The official answer, as given by Trump is that the USA are "nice" and therefore charge only half of what the others allegedly charge.

The real answer is that those numbers are complete hokum anyway. According to reports in the German media, they are just calulated from the trade deficit the USA have with each country.

https://www.zeit.de/wirtschaft/2025-04/us-zoelle-donald-trump-handelskonflikt-produkte-auswirkungen
So what are your complaints about the USA then?
The EU has imposed a 39% tariff on the US and is still unhappy. Unheard of impudence!

No!

The “39 percent”:

It's about a trade deficit from the US perspective.

The USA has imported goods worth 605 billion dollars from the EU and exported goods worth 370 billion dollars to the EU. The difference is 38.8 - rounded up to 39 - percent. Trump's misrepresentation is therefore not a difference in the tariffs imposed, but a trade deficit in direct comparison.

Let's take the example of cars. Many more cars were exported from the EU to the USA than vice versa. Why Europeans are less keen on US cars than vice versa would be the first question Trump would have to ask himself. And he would have to ask the same of other products.

Trump is now trying to even out the import and export difference through tariffs.

And it looks like he is only taking goods into account. If digital products were included in the calculation, things would look very different. Google, Facebook, WhatsApp, X, ... all make trillions of dollars and pay virtually no taxes. That would have to be included in a fair calculation (Trump always talks about fairness). Not at this point!
1. Why do you think that something is not included in the amount of 370 billion dollars.
2. The EU should therefore be happy that Trump imposed only 20% tariffs, not 39%.
3. How this will affect Ukraine, I do not write, because I am not a parasite and do not think in terms of the fullness of my refrigerator. Trump is making America great again and does not want to feed parasites.

Re 1: Please read what I wrote - either you can't read or you don't understand. At no point did I write that anything was not included in the 370 billion US dollars...

Re 2: You didn't get that either. Fictitious example: Ukraine exports grain to Poland for 95 million dollars. Poland exports vodka to Ukraine for 5 million dollars. So Poland can impose 95% punitive tariffs on Ukrainian grain to compensate for this trade difference?

Re 3: Yes, Trump wants money from parasites. That's why he demanded a 500 billion US dollar deal from Ukraine - in the form of rare earths, etc. Now the tariffs are on top of that. And, to top it off, he is also demanding a thousand-fold thank-you from these parasites.

1. "And it looks like he is only taking goods into account. If digital products were included in the calculation, things would look very different. Google, Facebook, WhatsApp, X, ... all make trillions of dollars and pay virtually no taxes. That would have to be included in a fair calculation (Trump always talks about fairness). Not at this point!"

2. Poland can do whatever it wants, unless otherwise stipulated in interstate treaties or prohibited by international law.

3. Trump protects the US economy from parasites and crushes terrorists and communists.
You have poorly understood the issue of Ukraine's resources, read less propaganda. Also, don't digress from the topic.

Lizard · « **Reply #456 on:** **Today** at 09:22 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on Yesterday at 17:21

Quote from: Wilm on Yesterday at 16:37
From what I read, you're a real fascist, stoker2014.
I think that parasites need to read the definition of fascism first. Trump is engaged in protectionism and the fight against world evil.

Let's start with the definition:

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to Marxism, democracy, anarchism, pluralism, free markets, egalitarianism, communism, liberalism, and socialism,[ fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.

And continue with Umberto Eco who, most agree, wrote the most accurate list of the common features of Fascism:

The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”

The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense, Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”

The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”

Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture, the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”

Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”

Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”

The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology, there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”

The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”

Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”

Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”

Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”

Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”

Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

Dude, the guy you admire is a fascist all the way

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