Unseasonably cold for the last two weeks. Middle United States.

 Forecasters say at least twelve cities in central and eastern Wisconsin broke records for their lowest daytime high temperatures for July 27th.

Some smashing records in place for nearly a century!

So much for global warming.

Let me help. Weather changes, and finding something in one month or ten years, isn't proof of anything. Even the "save the planet" climatologists say it's takes centuries. What we have now is models and guesses.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html

Climatologists have used various techniques and evidence to reconstruct a history of the Earth's past climate. From this data, they have found that during most of the Earth's history global temperatures were probably 8 to 15 degrees Celsius warmer than today. In the last billion years of climatic history, warmer conditions were broken by glacial periods starting at 925, 800, 680, 450, 330, and 2 million years before present.

Also:  Western Europe experienced a general cooling of the climate between the years 1150 and 1460 and a very cold climate between 1560 and 1850 that brought dire consequences to its peoples. The colder weather impacted agriculture, health, economics, social strife, emigration, and even art and literature. Increased glaciation and storms also had a devastating affect on those that lived near glaciers and the sea.

We are coming out of the little ice age, it's getting warmer. We are below the average "normal" Earth temperatures for billions of years. Also Volcanic eruptions cause climate change, because the the dust and spewing gasses into the atmosphere.

Hope that's helpful as part of a balanced answer to look at science for history and evidence as well as politics with an agenda.

Thanks Ron for chiming in. I would never have guessed you were from Ireland. I thought you were from Texas.

Thanks Pete, so you observations compare to those from Canada and those from Eastern Europe. That could be explained byt the 5 pointed star of the polar front.

Im aware that weather and climate is not the same. Unless we are having one of these overnight endings of ice ages that has actually happened.

Another and very valid addition to our perspective is changes in distribution of species. And yes we have that: During the last 100 years several species of butterflies have expanded their range northwards in Denmark (A. iris, L. camilla, P. aegeria, A. levana) and within the last couple of years it has accelerated with a couple of species that have jumped 3-400 km northwards. (A. ilia, H. morpheus).

Quote from: brm1949 on August 05, 2013, 19:04

If you want to claim that the current warming is natural, you're going to have to come up with a cause which tens of thousands of dedicated scientists have overlooked.


The providence of God.

Got a peer-reviewed ref for that?



The Lord Answers Job

38 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said:

2 �Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?

3 Dress for action like a man;

I will question you, and you make it known to me.

4 �Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?

Tell me, if you have understanding.

5 Who determined its measurements�surely you know!

Or who stretched the line upon it?

6 On what were its bases sunk,

or who laid its cornerstone,

7 when the morning stars sang together

and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

8 �Or who shut in the sea with doors

when it burst out from the womb,

9 when I made clouds its garment

and thick darkness its swaddling band,

10 and prescribed limits for it

and set bars and doors,

11 and said, �Thus far shall you come, and no farther,

and here shall your proud waves be stayed�?

12 �Have you commanded the morning since your days began,

and caused the dawn to know its place,

13 that it might take hold of the skirts of the earth,

and the wicked be shaken out of it?

14 It is changed like clay under the seal,

and its features stand out like a garment.

15 From the wicked their flight is withheld,

and their uplifted arm is broken.

16 �Have you entered into the springs of the sea,

or walked in the recesses of the deep?

17 Have the gates of death been revealed to you,

or have you seen the gates of deep darkness?

18 Have you comprehended the expanse of the earth?

Declare, if you know all this.

19 �Where is the way to the dwelling of light,

and where is the place of darkness,

20 that you may take it to its territory

and that you may discern the paths to its home?

21 You know, for you were born then,

and the number of your days is great!

22 �Have you entered the storehouses of the snow,

or have you seen the storehouses of the hail,

23 which I have reserved for the time of trouble,

for the day of battle and war?

24 What is the way to the place where the light is distributed,

or where the east wind is scattered upon the earth?

25 �Who has cleft a channel for the torrents of rain

and a way for the thunderbolt,

26 to bring rain on a land where no man is,

on the desert in which there is no man,

27 to satisfy the waste and desolate land,

and to make the ground sprout with grass?

28 �Has the rain a father,

or who has begotten the drops of dew?

29 From whose womb did the ice come forth,

and who has given birth to the frost of heaven?

30 The waters become hard like stone,

and the face of the deep is frozen.

31 �Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades

or loose the cords of Orion?

32 Can you lead forth the Mazzaroth in their season,

or can you guide the Bear with its children?

33 Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?

Can you establish their rule on the earth?

34 �Can you lift up your voice to the clouds,

that a flood of waters may cover you?

35 Can you send forth lightnings, that they may go

and say to you, �Here we are�?

36 Who has put wisdom in the inward parts

or given understanding to the mind?

37 Who can number the clouds by wisdom?

Or who can tilt the waterskins of the heavens,

38 when the dust runs into a mass

and the clods stick fast together?

39 �Can you hunt the prey for the lion,

or satisfy the appetite of the young lions,

40 when they crouch in their dens

or lie in wait in their thicket?

41 Who provides for the raven its prey,

when its young ones cry to God for help,

and wander about for lack of food?

Quote from: brm1949 on August 05, 2013, 19:33

Quote from: Travelling-light on August 05, 2013, 19:17

Quote from: brm1949 on August 05, 2013, 19:04

If you want to claim that the current warming is natural, you're going to have to come up with a cause which tens of thousands of dedicated scientists have overlooked.


The providence of God.

Got a peer-reviewed ref for that?

The Lord Answers Job

38 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind and said:

2 �Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?

3 Dress for action like a man;

I will question you, and you make it known to me.

4 �Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?

Tell me, if you have understanding.

5 Who determined its measurements�surely you know!

Or who stretched the line upon it?

6 On what were its bases sunk,

or who laid its cornerstone,
...

OK, so instead of 40 days and nights, it's going to be more like 40 years to wipe humanity out this time?