Author Topic: Biden (Read 3460 times)

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #25 on:** February 21, 2025, 13:12 »

Like this? https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/administrator-zeldin-announces-billions-dollars-worth-gold-bars-have-been-located

“Roughly twenty billion of your tax dollars were parked at an outside financial institution by the Biden EPA. This scheme was the first of its kind in EPA history and it was purposefully designed to obligate all of the money in a rush job with reduced oversight,”

ShadySue · « **Reply #26 on:** February 21, 2025, 13:26 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 21, 2025, 13:12

Like this? https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/administrator-zeldin-announces-billions-dollars-worth-gold-bars-have-been-located

“Roughly twenty billion of your tax dollars were parked at an outside financial institution by the Biden EPA. This scheme was the first of its kind in EPA history and it was purposefully designed to obligate all of the money in a rush job with reduced oversight,”

I can see that that would be of great concern to Americans and needs to be investigated.
But I saw nothing there to suggest that the money had been at any time earmarked for Ukraine.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 21, 2025, 13:31 »

Quote from: ShadySue on February 21, 2025, 13:26

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 21, 2025, 13:12
Like this? https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/administrator-zeldin-announces-billions-dollars-worth-gold-bars-have-been-located

“Roughly twenty billion of your tax dollars were parked at an outside financial institution by the Biden EPA. This scheme was the first of its kind in EPA history and it was purposefully designed to obligate all of the money in a rush job with reduced oversight,”

I can see that that would be of great concern to Americans and needs to be investigated.
But I saw nothing there to suggest that the money had been at any time earmarked for Ukraine.

It's not about Ukraine, it's about the theft of money in the US. It's not just money intended for Ukraine that's being stolen. It's about Biden and how much money the Democrats stole from US citizens.

ShadySue · « **Reply #28 on:** February 21, 2025, 13:40 »

"Biden administration slowed Ukraine arms shipments until his term was nearly done

While Biden sped up deliveries after the U.S. election, his final year in office was largely marked by delays caused by congressional inaction and months-long internal debates."
https://www.reuters.com/investigations/biden-administration-beset-by-doubts-slowed-ukraine-weapons-shipments-until-2025-02-03/

ShadySue · « **Reply #29 on:** February 21, 2025, 13:46 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 13:31

Quote from: ShadySue on February 21, 2025, 13:26
Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 21, 2025, 13:12
Like this? https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/administrator-zeldin-announces-billions-dollars-worth-gold-bars-have-been-located

“Roughly twenty billion of your tax dollars were parked at an outside financial institution by the Biden EPA. This scheme was the first of its kind in EPA history and it was purposefully designed to obligate all of the money in a rush job with reduced oversight,”

I can see that that would be of great concern to Americans and needs to be investigated.
But I saw nothing there to suggest that the money had been at any time earmarked for Ukraine.
It's not about Ukraine, it's about the theft of money in the US. It's not just money intended for Ukraine that's being stolen. It's about Biden and how much money the Democrats stole from US citizens.

YOU were the one who quoted Musk as saying it was money meant to be sent to Ukraine:

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 12:29

Elon Musk

A significant percentage of the money “sent to Ukraine” actually ended up benefitting US politicians, the DNC and some Republicans.
That’s why Zelensky says he only received half the money.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892627335188230260#

Then you added your opinion:

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 12:29

So, Biden and the Democrats and some Republicans stole the money. This is US taxpayers' money that was used to help Ukraine, but was not given to Ukraine. We are talking about a sum of more than $100 billion.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 21, 2025, 13:54 »

ShadySue, I know and remember what I wrote. I also wrote to you that this topic contains information not only about the theft of money intended for Ukraine by democrats.

Wilm · « **Reply #31 on:** February 21, 2025, 15:35 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 12:29

Elon Musk

A significant percentage of the money “sent to Ukraine” actually ended up benefitting US politicians, the DNC and some Republicans.
That’s why Zelensky says he only received half the money.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892627335188230260
___________
So, Biden and the Democrats and some Republicans stole the money. This is US taxpayers' money that was used to help Ukraine, but was not given to Ukraine. We are talking about a sum of more than $100 billion.

Elon Musk

"It should be completely obvious that a Zelensky-driven poll about his own approval rating is not credible." Zelenskyi is "despised by the Ukrainian people, which is why he refused to organize an election," Musk wrote."

ShadySue · « **Reply #32 on:** February 21, 2025, 16:41 »

https://war.ukraine.ua/articles/not-sacrificing-democracy-why-ukraine-cannot-hold-elections-under-the-martial-law

cascoly · « **Reply #33 on:** February 21, 2025, 17:35 »

Quote from: ShadySue on February 21, 2025, 12:38

Like anyone would rush in just to believe anything Musk says any more than his bum chum Trump.
He has told so many lies in his current not-job that I'd want to see a LOT more evidence for his claims before getting incensed.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/19/here-are-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-and-inaccuracies-as-8-million-canceled-ice-contract-listed-at-8-billion
and if he's not making up lies himself, he's spreading other people's lies, including those emanating from Russia.
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36XA8LR

then there's Musk's idiotic list of 'dead' or fake people receiving social security - he claimed that there were 10's of millions for each tranche (eg 30-40) for a total over 350 million with over 10 million over 100 yrs (there's actually< 100K) - of course there are only roughly 80 million people on SS in TOTAL

stoker2014 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 21, 2025, 18:28 »

Quote from: Wilm on February 21, 2025, 15:35

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 21, 2025, 12:29
Elon Musk

A significant percentage of the money “sent to Ukraine” actually ended up benefitting US politicians, the DNC and some Republicans.
That’s why Zelensky says he only received half the money.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1892627335188230260
___________
So, Biden and the Democrats and some Republicans stole the money. This is US taxpayers' money that was used to help Ukraine, but was not given to Ukraine. We are talking about a sum of more than $100 billion.

Elon Musk

"It should be completely obvious that a Zelensky-driven poll about his own approval rating is not credible." Zelenskyi is "despised by the Ukrainian people, which is why he refused to organize an election," Musk wrote."

He can't understand everything. But money is what he is doing professionally now, Trump appointed him and he already has his own department. I hope there will be an investigation into where the Democrats spent the money.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #35 on:** February 22, 2025, 12:00 »

Quote from: ShadySue on February 21, 2025, 13:26

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 21, 2025, 13:12
Like this? https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/administrator-zeldin-announces-billions-dollars-worth-gold-bars-have-been-located

“Roughly twenty billion of your tax dollars were parked at an outside financial institution by the Biden EPA. This scheme was the first of its kind in EPA history and it was purposefully designed to obligate all of the money in a rush job with reduced oversight,”

I can see that that would be of great concern to Americans and needs to be investigated.
But I saw nothing there to suggest that the money had been at any time earmarked for Ukraine.

Just a note. I never said anything about the Ukraine and I have never written anything about the Ukraine on this forum.

The government spending and waste isn't limited to Biden, or recent times, just that some of the worst of it and some of the most underhanded, illegal actions, were committed under the Biden administration. There's some concern that he didn't know what was going on, and people under him, were pulling the strings, but in defense, agencies and departments can misuse funds, without the President knowing.

Yes, that's what's going on, these concerns and claims are being investigated. More fraud and illegal activity is being found every day. Stopping the waste is a good project. Just like securing the borders while reducing spending on non-citizens who don't pay taxes and only drain the system. We the people who pay taxes and have, deserve to have that money used for Our Country and our people, first.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 22, 2025, 13:23 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 22, 2025, 12:00

There's some concern that he didn't know what was going on, and people under him, were pulling the strings, but in defense, agencies and departments can misuse funds, without the President knowing.

We all know that in his final moments as president, Biden pardoned all of his relatives. This suggests that he stole US taxpayer money through his relatives.

cascoly · « **Reply #37 on:** February 22, 2025, 13:59 »

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 22, 2025, 12:00

...Just like securing the borders while reducing spending on non-citizens who don't pay taxes and only drain the system. We the people who pay taxes ..

but many non-citizens pay into social security without being able to get any benefits or have with holding. in some cases their employers take only cash are the ones defrauding the govt

According to an in-depth analysis (to which I contributed) by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, the undocumented population in 2022 paid almost $97 billion in taxes, with over $54 billion in payments to the federal government and more than $37 billion paid out to states and localities. Put another way, the U.S. stands to lose $8.9 billion in tax revenue for every 1 million undocumented immigrants who are sent out of this country under a program of mass deportation. Undocumented immigrants help fund teacher salaries, road and bridge repairs and other local quality-of-life improvements. They also pay into vital programs that make up our social safety net (including Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance) even though they will likely never see any benefits from these programs — because, in most circumstances, they are legally prohibited from accessing them.
https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/insights/legal/immigration/b/outsidenews/posts/undocumented-immigrants-pay-more-than-their-fair-share-of-taxes

stoker2014 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 22, 2025, 17:08 »

The communist and leftist cascoly wants to destroy the capitalist world and deprive US citizens of their jobs. To do this, he whitewashes illegals who violate US laws and says how good it is that illegals take jobs from US citizens. This cascoly would like many such illegals so that they vote for communist democrats and eliminate all supporters of capitalism and democracy.

cascoly · « **Reply #39 on:** February 22, 2025, 23:32 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 22, 2025, 17:08

The communist and leftist cascoly wants to destroy the capitalist world and deprive US citizens of their jobs. ...../

Arise, you prisoners of starvation!
Arise, you wretched of the earth!
For justice thunders condemnation.
A better world's in birth.
No more tradition's chains shall bind us.
Arise, you slaves, no more in thrall!
The earth shall rise on new foundations.
We have been naught, we shall be all.

Stock4Me · « **Reply #40 on:** February 23, 2025, 10:13 »

Quote from: cascoly on February 22, 2025, 13:59

Quote from: Uncle Pete on February 22, 2025, 12:00
...Just like securing the borders while reducing spending on non-citizens who don't pay taxes and only drain the system. We the people who pay taxes ..

but many non-citizens pay into social security without being able to get any benefits or have with holding. in some cases their employers take only cash are the ones defrauding the govt

According to an in-depth analysis (to which I contributed) by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, the undocumented population in 2022 paid almost $97 billion in taxes, with over $54 billion in payments to the federal government and more than $37 billion paid out to states and localities. Put another way, the U.S. stands to lose $8.9 billion in tax revenue for every 1 million undocumented immigrants who are sent out of this country under a program of mass deportation. Undocumented immigrants help fund teacher salaries, road and bridge repairs and other local quality-of-life improvements. They also pay into vital programs that make up our social safety net (including Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance) even though they will likely never see any benefits from these programs — because, in most circumstances, they are legally prohibited from accessing them.
https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/insights/legal/immigration/b/outsidenews/posts/undocumented-immigrants-pay-more-than-their-fair-share-of-taxes

Illegal aliens don't have social security numbers they use a fake and borrowed number. People paid cash, don't pay taxes. Hiring illegals for under minimum wage, drives the pay of legal workers down and takes away jobs from citizens. Illegals aren't going to get proper working conditions and won't complain if they are abused or forced to work under hazardous conditions. Making excuses for breaking laws doesn't justify illegal actions.

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

That's the law.

cascoly · « **Reply #41 on:** February 23, 2025, 19:03 »

Quote from: Stock4Me on February 23, 2025, 10:13

Illegal aliens don't have social security numbers they use a fake and borrowed number. People paid cash, don't pay taxes.

i showed a reputable source for my statement - do you even have one?

Quote from: Stock4Me

Hiring illegals for under minimum wage, drives the pay of legal workers down and takes away jobs from citizens. Illegals aren't going to get proper working conditions and won't complain if they are abused or forced to work under hazardous conditions. Making excuses for breaking laws doesn't justify illegal actions...

agreed - but all those problems are due to EMPLOYERS breaking the law or opposing laws that would improve working conditions

Democrats have tried to make labor laws tougher & protect workers rights, strengthen & enforce tougher health & safety laws tougher while the Republicans have traditionally opposed these laws & under trump these agencies are being weakened or even eliminated – 2 such are The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) which sets the federal minimum wage (MW) and the U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) which enforces FMW
•   US is one of the few developed countries where the minimum wage is decided directly by politicians. Congress has to vote on the issue every single time they want to alter the minimum wage, otherwise it just stays the same. Most other developed countries have some form of commission that meets usually every year or formula that decides the minimum wage, letting it automatically increase over time.
•   In the US however, because it is directly decided by Congress, it is much more difficult to get it raised. Conservative politicians tend to be more supported by business leaders that do not want a raise to the minimum wage and so they consistently oppose any raise to the minimum wage.
•   thus it’s left to (mostly blue) states to increase the state minimum wage, essentially leaving workers in mosdut red states earning less.
•

As for health & safety:
Over the years, progress has become more challenging, as employers’ opposition to workers’ rights and protections has grown, and attacks on unions have intensified. Big corporations and many Republicans have launched an aggressive assault on worker protections. They have used their power and influence to attempt to deregulate the work environment, shift the responsibility to provide safe jobs from employers to individual workers, and undermine the core duties of job safety and health agencies.
The nation must remain committed to protecting workers from job injury, disease and death and to ensure Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) investigations have access to all the relevant facts and witnesses that often are blocked by employers. We must prioritize preventing injury, illness and death at … Employers must meet their responsibilities under the law to protect workers and be held accountable if they put workers in danger.
https://aflcio.org/reports/dotj-2024

stoker2014 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 25, 2025, 05:14 »

Bill Mitchell
@mitchellvii
What they are going to find is that Ukraine money was being laundered back to the DNC using #ActBlue and ghost-donors. I've been saying this for YEARS and it is finally being proven now. Some high-level Democrats (and maybe neocon Republicans) are going to prison for this.

https://x.com/mitchellvii/status/1892367788502556815

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cascoly · « **Reply #43 on:** February 25, 2025, 15:03 »

Quote from: stoker2014 on February 25, 2025, 05:14

... I've been saying this for YEARS and it is finally being proven now. ...

LOL - basically you admit you been 'saying' this for years without any actual evidence?

-- Appalachian saying: even a blind pig can find an acorn once in a while

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #44 on:** April 06, 2025, 07:08 »

At least four books will be published in the next few weeks that provide new details about Biden's failing health and the conspiracy to cover it up.

The Democrats lost the election because they thought they could fool the American public and get Biden re-elected. They should have abandoned him and got a real candidate, then we wouldn't have this situation. Last minute Harris no matter how good she was, lost the election. Don't blame the Trumpsters and Republican's, the Democratic party lost the battle, with their own arrogant, as usual, belief that they could fool people, with their lies.

stoker2014 · « **Reply #45 on:** April 06, 2025, 07:26 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on April 06, 2025, 07:08

the Democratic party lost the battle, with their own arrogant, as usual, belief that they could fool people, with their lies.

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