Author Topic: Complaints, why all these compaints? (Read 16337 times)

Alambo · « **on:** February 17, 2015, 16:19 »

Going through all the messages I stronly feel that much time is wasted by complaints. What are the benefits of all these complaints? They waste our valuable time, energy, good ideas and so many other things. Why not stop them, they are absolutely worthless whatsoever! Or am I wrong?? Tell me!
I am an illustrator, I make a living on my creativity, its a day to day challenge. If I run out of ideas I am done. Finished. I dont have any energy left to complaints.... except this very minute and never again.
Lets talk about positive things only!!!!
P.S. An African proverb says: "Never hit a milking cow!" how wise!

ShadySue · « **Reply #1 on:** February 17, 2015, 16:21 »

Quote from: Alambo on February 17, 2015, 16:19

P.S. An African proverb says: "Never hit a milking cow!" how wise!

When the cow stops giving milk, or starts to kick him, the farmer should surely wonder why, and whether anything can be done about it.
If s/he can't solve the issue, they'll talk to others, and consider other remedies.
What would be the point of them going round their neighbours boasting about their good cow?

ShadySue · « **Reply #2 on:** February 17, 2015, 16:22 »

Quote from: Alambo on February 17, 2015, 16:19

Going through all the messages I stronly feel that much time is wasted by complaints. What are the benefits of all these complaints? They waste our valuable time, energy, good ideas and so many other things. Why not stop them, they are absolutely worthless whatsoever! Or am I wrong?? Tell me!
I am an illustrator, I make a living on my creativity, its a day to day challenge. If I run out of ideas I am done. Finished. I dont have any energy left to complaints.... except this very minute and never again.
Lets talk about positive things only!!!!

OK, so you have whined about the complaints.
Now you talk about positive things.

BTW there's a happy thread here: http://www.istockphoto.com/forum_messages.php?threadid=361776&page=1, but it's pretty small cheese.

KnowYourOnions · « **Reply #3 on:** February 17, 2015, 16:27 »

Quote from: ShadySue on February 17, 2015, 16:21

Quote from: Alambo on February 17, 2015, 16:19
P.S. An African proverb says: "Never hit a milking cow!" how wise!
When the cow stops giving milk, or starts to kick him, the farmer should surely wonder why, and whether anything can be done about it.
If s/he can't solve the issue, they'll talk to others, and consider other remedies.
What would be the point of them going round their neighbours boasting about their good cow?

+10

moooo

No Free Lunch · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2015, 16:32 »

Quote from: Alambo on February 17, 2015, 16:19

Lets talk about positive things only!!!!

We will notify you when a positive thing happens- just don't hold your breathe too long

Monkeyman · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2015, 16:33 »

I was pretty excited about this business back in 2008 when I was new and sales were growing with the number of uploads. But those days are over. Prices are going down and our royalty hasn't even been adjusted for inflation. Sales are going down as well. So it's pretty hard to stay positive.

But I'm glad for you if you still have faith in this business.

ShadySue · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2015, 16:33 »

Plus if you'd been around long enough, you'd know it had first been "oo-oo iS is so great", then "oo-oo SS is so great".
Where did that get us?

Shelma1 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 17, 2015, 16:43 »

Quote from: Alambo on February 17, 2015, 16:19

Going through all the messages I stronly feel that much time is wasted by complaints. What are the benefits of all these complaints? They waste our valuable time, energy, good ideas and so many other things. Why not stop them, they are absolutely worthless whatsoever! Or am I wrong?? Tell me!
I am an illustrator, I make a living on my creativity, its a day to day challenge. If I run out of ideas I am done. Finished. I dont have any energy left to complaints.... except this very minute and never again.
Lets talk about positive things only!!!!
P.S. An African proverb says: "Never hit a milking cow!" how wise!

So your very first post here is a complaint?

Alambo · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2015, 16:47 »

I spend lots of time in searching for niches. And I found them. At least for concept illustrations. SS for example: there are very few illustrations for "epilepsy", "mental health child", "pedagogy","early childhood education", "parental alienation", it goes on and on...
I want to confirm, I am only talking about illustrations, I have no ideas about photos! And I dont know the golden times in eighteen hundred....

cthoman · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2015, 16:57 »

Quote from: Monkeyman on February 17, 2015, 16:33

I was pretty excited about this business back in 2008 when I was new and sales were growing with the number of uploads. But those days are over. Prices are going down and our royalty hasn't even been adjusted for inflation. Sales are going down as well. So it's pretty hard to stay positive.

But I'm glad for you if you still have faith in this business.

Yeah, there used to be a lot of things to cheer about. I'd love to go back to that and be positive most of the time. It just isn't very easy to do anymore. I kind of stopped complaining too though. I'm just not sure if it changes anything either. Maybe, one day it will.

ShadySue · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2015, 17:06 »

Quote from: Alambo on February 17, 2015, 16:47

I spend lots of time in searching for niches. And I found them. At least for concept illustrations. SS for example: there are very few illustrations for "epilepsy", "mental health child", "pedagogy","early childhood education", "parental alienation", it goes on and on...
I want to confirm, I am only talking about illustrations, I have no ideas about photos! And I dont know the golden times in eighteen hundred....

And now you can sit back while all the forum lurkers copy your niches.
It wasn't 1800, it was only a very few months back for SS.
Still, so long as you're happy, why bother coming here?

Alambo · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2015, 17:10 »

Let me quote an American proverb:" If you dont like it, just leave it."

ShadySue · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2015, 17:14 »

Quote from: Alambo on February 17, 2015, 17:10

Let me quote an American proverb:" If you dont like it, just leave it."

That's exactly what I said in the post above.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2015, 17:16 »

A good example of the current site mentality - someone reports good sales on Canstock score on agree 0. Two people report decreases and get 10 and 11 thumbs up. We're doomed I tell ye!!!

PixelsAway · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2015, 17:18 »

7 years in microstock
I still enjoy doing it, having fun, learning new things,
and making a full time living.
Positive enough?

Alambo · « **Reply #15 on:** February 17, 2015, 17:19 »

Million thanks to PixelsAway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shelma1 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 17, 2015, 17:22 »

Quote from: ShadySue on February 17, 2015, 17:06

Quote from: Alambo on February 17, 2015, 16:47
I spend lots of time in searching for niches. And I found them. At least for concept illustrations. SS for example: there are very few illustrations for "epilepsy", "mental health child", "pedagogy","early childhood education", "parental alienation", it goes on and on...
I want to confirm, I am only talking about illustrations, I have no ideas about photos! And I dont know the golden times in eighteen hundred....
And now you can sit back while all the forum lurkers copy your niches.
It wasn't 1800, it was only a very few months back for SS.
Still, so long as you're happy, why bother comng here?

Meh. There are niches and there are niches. Some niches are too niche to spend time on. Lazer, anyone?

No Free Lunch · « **Reply #17 on:** February 17, 2015, 17:49 »

I have a niche that no one has done, since they cannot find one, a happy microstock photographer

ShadySue · « **Reply #18 on:** February 17, 2015, 18:04 »

Quote from: No Free Lunch on February 17, 2015, 17:49

I have a niche that no one has done, since they cannot find one, a happy microstock photographer

We now have ~~TWO.~~

Or are they both illustrators?
Perhaps things are better for illustrators. Historically, they 'seemed' to do better, and maybe they can weather the storm better now.

sdeva · « **Reply #19 on:** February 17, 2015, 18:10 »

WHAT ?? No more complaining?? But what else am I in microstock for? It sure ain't for the money …

polar · « **Reply #20 on:** February 17, 2015, 18:18 »

Quote from: Monkeyman on February 17, 2015, 16:33

I was pretty excited about this business back in 2008 when I was new and sales were growing with the number of uploads. But those days are over. Prices are going down and our royalty hasn't even been adjusted for inflation. Sales are going down as well. So it's pretty hard to stay positive.

But I'm glad for you if you still have faith in this business.

I recall that when I first started IS around 2004, they had a "future royalty" calculator on the web site. I have no idea about the assumptions that went into this thing, but I'm guessing they were, shall we say, overly rosy. Every time I ran it, I saw my "future royalties" rising into the stratosphere. It was a nice fantasy. GIGO in action.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #21 on:** February 17, 2015, 18:28 »

I grew up with a quaint expression "Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs". Can't enlighten you on the origin, but in general it was used to warn people who knew a little or nothing that they shouldn't lecture people who knew a lot more than they did.

You admit you're new. You don't post links to your portfolio - care to share a bit versus just criticize?

Some people here are anonymous, and to spare you some negative talk, I'll let you go look up why that is in the many threads here about this. As you're new, perhaps you didn't know you could put information into your forum profile to allow links to your portfolio to show up - it lets people get to know you a bit.

The forums here are a meeting place for a worldwide group of freelancers to compare notes about what's going on with the business. Some threads dissolve into slug fests and those are best ignored unless you like such things. The tone of the posts generally reflects what's going on. When we were fighting back against some agency shenanigans (search for Dollar Photo Club and Fotolia and boycott, or Deposit Photos and Shotshop; you'll see many examples) the tone was negative but contstructive.

Count yourself both lucky and unlucky that you haven't been around to understand why people here are in the mood they are. But turning this into a happy talk water cooler wouldn't serve any useful purpose for me. Generally people read and learn before they start telling everyone else how they ought to conduct themselves. No idea how you intended it to come off, but I find it pretty rude.

ShadySue · « **Reply #22 on:** February 17, 2015, 18:36 »

Quote from: Alambo on February 17, 2015, 16:47

And I dont know the golden times in eighteen hundred....

Here's another well known quotation: "Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It." George Santayana

stockastic · « **Reply #23 on:** February 17, 2015, 18:47 »

The trends in microstock are all down, have been for years, and there's no bottom in sight.

We're standing here, talking to each other, in the middle of a smoking ruin.

That's about as positive as I can get.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #24 on:** February 17, 2015, 18:52 »

first, let me say, i never met a cow that is bad. humans yes, cows never. it's why the hindus worship them. cows are like all mothers, they see their kids hue and haw and kick from even inside their tummy , and once they come out into this world, nothing her kids do is that intolerable as when she was carrying the rascal

second, to whine is human nature, to listen is divine , to enjoy wise.
some of us enjoy leaf's forum as something we accompany our pint(s). normal ppl read the papers to enjoy headlines of countries killing each other and big corporations eating up little ones,etc
microstock-ers don't enjoy reading the papers, they prefer msg with their glutamate

take it with a great of cyanide, it's mostly tongue in cheek , don't ask me to specify which cheek

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Author Topic: Complaints, why all these compaints? (Read 16337 times)

Alambo

ShadySue

ShadySue

KnowYourOnions

No Free Lunch

Monkeyman

ShadySue

Shelma1

Alambo

cthoman

ShadySue

Alambo

ShadySue

Pauws99

PixelsAway

Alambo

Shelma1

No Free Lunch

ShadySue

sdeva

polar

Jo Ann Snover

ShadySue

stockastic

etudiante_rapide

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