Author Topic: UltimatStock (Read 14368 times)

Desiren · « **on:** July 23, 2014, 22:29 »

Hello everyone, I am one of the owners of UltimatStock. We are a new site launching in 2014 and are currently looking for content providers. Our development stage is almost complete, and will be moving to the marketing phase shortly. Here are just some benefits of UltimatStock.

50% commission on sales.
Easy to use interface
Batch upload directly. (Images, Video or both) (Our minimum criteria for uploading video is 1920*1080P) meaning buyers are guaranteed the highest quality as a minimum. (photojpegs only uploaded in QuickTime format .mov
Upload and download model and property releases made easy directly whilst editing your content. Editorials do not require a release.
Once curated by our team, content is available for sale.
Content uploaded will automatically generate smaller resolutions.
You can easily change your prices for every resolution generated to help you sell.
You can interact on every piece of content uploaded, connect with buyers and other professional content providers.
Track your earning.
And more to come.

We are a new company so please make this happen

We would appreciate any feedback and how you found using UltimatStock. Our mission is to create a different experience for everyone shooting stock. Upload today!

Look forward to seeing you there.

Kind Regards

UltimatStock team

www.ultimatstock.com

Ariene · « **Reply #1 on:** July 24, 2014, 01:20 »

Hi,

I'd like to ask some first questions as I can't find that infos:

1. Can client zoom the image? I can't find that option.
2. Do you read IPTC data? I already spent a lot of time preparing my images and add IPTC on all files. Hard of work. There are many new sites which don't read IPTC and that means another work for me everytime I get in to new site. Wasting time mostly.
3. Want to make sure. Do I understand correct that I can set up my prices and I always get 50%? (like Pond5 offers).
4. What about your clients? Who and where are they? Do you focus on any special direction? Did you start advertising project?
5. Do you sell images through partners and re-sellers and do I have option opt in/ opt out?
6. Can I upload images by FTP?
7. What is the review time for uploaded batch of images (lets say 5-100 files)? Are there any limits in quantity or time?
8. What about exclusivity? Do you require it?
9. What is the minimum payout threshold and how long does it take?

Thank you for reply.

Desiren · « **Reply #2 on:** July 24, 2014, 02:44 »

Hello

1. No, the client has the option to download a preview with the watermark at this stage.
2. Not at this stage, but we are looking at implementing that.
3. Correct, you can set and change your prices for every resolution available for every media content.
4. We have many big client coming on board with us soon.
5. No we don't sell images through partners and re sellers, Yes you can opt/in opt out,
6. You can batch upload drag and drop as many files as you like in one hit.
7. Between 24 - 48 hours at this stage. No limitation
8. No, you can upload your content elsewhere, you are just using UltimatStock to further promote your work.
9. $20 as a minimum payout, within 5 business days.

Thank you

UltimatStock team

cobalt · « **Reply #3 on:** July 24, 2014, 03:17 »

Do you have a proper business address somewhere on your website? Where are you located? And maybe something about who you are,your team,the experience of your management? Do you have proper funding or are we uploading to a garage office

Thank you.

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #4 on:** July 24, 2014, 04:14 »

Quote from: cobalt on July 24, 2014, 03:17

Do you have a proper business address somewhere on your website? Where are you located? And maybe something about who you are,your team,the experience of your management? Do you have proper funding or are we uploading to a garage office

Thank you.

Very important point!

kaboom · « **Reply #5 on:** July 24, 2014, 04:44 »

According the Twitter site they are located in Melbourne, Australia.

Desiren · « **Reply #6 on:** July 24, 2014, 07:10 »

We are still in developing stages of our company and we welcome users to upload, and test the platform. We are currently in the process of adding further information on our site. We are located in Melbourne, Australia. We are a team of Photographers and Filmmakers who have been working with software developers, and marketing teams based in the U.S to launch this venture. Hope this explains your questions. Kind Regards

Kamran · « **Reply #7 on:** July 24, 2014, 07:24 »

What are the mode of payments to contributor?. I am using only skrill as paypal is not available in my country.

Desiren · « **Reply #8 on:** July 24, 2014, 07:44 »

At this stage, payments made to contributors are through PayPal, we will also be implementing other payment methods in the near future for both contributors and buyers.

Maximilian · « **Reply #9 on:** July 24, 2014, 08:13 »

Looks nice. But the watermark is really ugly

amabu · « **Reply #10 on:** July 24, 2014, 08:43 »

I thought I give it a try and uploaded 5 images. But I already gave up (for now) after keywording the first one...

Only 5 keywords allowed?

But mandatory fields for Source, Camera, Country and more?

I don´t believe many people will go through all that trouble...

cobalt · « **Reply #11 on:** July 24, 2014, 09:21 »

Hi Desiren,

I was thinking of some official info, company name, exact address etc...you are a new business partner and if I have sales I cannot tell my accountant it came from a group in Australia

I'll send a few files to test your system. 50% is fair trade, so I'll have a look.

Deyan Georgiev Photography · « **Reply #12 on:** July 24, 2014, 09:49 »

I decided to upload 10 images just to say I support you, but the upload process is not difficult,but impossible and unnecessary complicated!

Who will loose 10 sec per images to upload in new website, nobody for sure. I have 10K images and will not spend 28 hours for this upload

In this days is obligatory automatic metadata extract and fast submission. Even category selection would stop me!

And the contact address is very important for the trust.

Goofy · « **Reply #13 on:** July 24, 2014, 10:03 »

Quote from: cobalt on July 24, 2014, 03:17

Do you have proper funding or are we uploading to a garage office

Thank you.

I really don't care if I upload to a garage or an apartment as long as you SELL!

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2014, 11:08 »

In addition to the comments already made (and I'd emphasize adding IPTC support, not just looking at it - almost no one with a substantial portfolio will consider cut and pasting title, description and keywords):

You have a number of exercise images (isolated, female) and they all say "No" to model released. These clearly need a model release, so it's possibly a bug that they say they don't have one, but if you want buyers to consider your site, they'll need to know that images are properly released (i.e. safe for them to use commercially).

Your terms are in all caps. This makes it unbelievably hard to read - please fix this

http://www.ultimatstock.com/terms

Some of the text makes so little sense, I'm wondering if it was lifted from other documents and not edited. For example:

"THE USER SHALL AUTHORISE USERS TO ACCESS ULTIMATSTOCK IN ITS ABSOLUTE DISCRETION. THE COMPANY ACCEPTS NO LIABILITY FOR ACCESS TO USER CONTENT BY USERS AUTHORISED BY THE USER OR USING LOGIN DETAILS OF USERS AUTHORISED BY THE USER"

And in the section (E) titled SOLUTION:

"ULTIMATSTOCK IS THE PRODUCT DESCRIBED IN THE PARTICULARS.
ULTIMATSTOCK IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE USER FOR THE TERM SET OUT IN THE PARTICULARS."

Then there's something odd in the "Fees" section:

"THE COMPANY MAY INTRODUCE NEW SERVICES WITH CORRESPONDING FEES BY GIVING THE USER WRITTEN NOTICE OF THEIR AVAILABILITY AND APPLICABILITY."

As user is defined at the top as "USER MEANS ANY CONTRIBUTOR OR PURCHASER THAT USES ULTIMATSTOCK." I wonder what sort of fees you might be thinking of. Or is this just a general "we can change anything at any time" notice?

You say that termination of the agreement is by written notice and is effective in 14 days - does that mean that contributors cannot delete their own content at any time? If not, why not?

You let someone download a watermarked comp without being logged in in a size larger than your extra small - 646 × 968 in the case of the images of a woman in sweats. It's a very light watermark for such a large size comp.

Some of the keywording is very bad. I know you're relying on contributors to do this, but if you don't insist (you inspect, no?) on useful and relevant keywords, your site will fail. As an example, I think this is a picture of an orangutan (which is an ape, not a monkey) with the keywords monkey, animal, bananna (sic)

http://www.ultimatstock.com/contentDetail?content.contentId=102&content.title=monkey

Even if banana were spelled correctly, I don't see one anywhere in the image.

There's an image titled "Female and male having a conversation". I searched for man woman talking but there are no results - because the keywords on this image are only: couple, talking, communication, team, working

http://www.ultimatstock.com/contentDetail?content.contentId=149&content.title=Female%20and%20male%20having%20a%20conversation

Aside from details, I'm still not clear about why a buyer might use your agency - let's assume you gather a decent quantity of content. How are you different from Stockbo? Or Photocase? Or Pond5? I can set my own price at Pond5 and they've been around a while longer - can you offer me something as a selling platform that they can't?

I am very interested in alternatives to the established agencies, but you aren't really making the case for why contributors should give you their content?

MxR · « **Reply #15 on:** July 24, 2014, 11:17 »

destock a new page must have a load of photos SIMPLE. Sorry, I do not have more time to waste

Desiren · « **Reply #16 on:** July 24, 2014, 18:45 »

Hello, thank you everyone for your feedback. I will be talking with team members and developers, on current issues and experiences. Isolated images mentioned previously do require a release without a doubt, they are shots taken by another team member before releases were available. We are still in the early stages and any feed back is highly appreciated.

Desiren · « **Reply #17 on:** July 25, 2014, 02:27 »

We're sorry you may have found it difficult to understand our terms &
conditions.

They weren't copied, they were prepared for us by our lawyers. We apologise
as our development team has capitalised the terms as part of turning them
into plain-text. This may have made some of the items more difficult to
understand as defined terms that would be "Capitalised" are not obvious.

*"THE USER SHALL AUTHORISE USERS TO ACCESS ULTIMATSTOCK IN ITS ABSOLUTE
DISCRETION. THE COMPANY ACCEPTS NO LIABILITY FOR ACCESS TO USER CONTENT
BY USERS AUTHORISED BY THE USER OR USING LOGIN DETAILS OF USERS AUTHORISED
BY THE USER"*

If the user authorises others to use their account, it's their
responsibility and not Ultimatstock's. This is quite straightforward -
"User" and "user" should be easier to distinguish if not in capitals.

"ULTIMATSTOCK IS THE PRODUCT DESCRIBED IN THE PARTICULARS.
ULTIMATSTOCK IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE USER FOR THE TERM SET OUT IN THE
PARTICULARS."

This makes it clear what Ultimatstock is, and that the User can only access
it for the term set out in the particulars. In your instance, this is
granted until the agreement ends.

"THE COMPANY MAY INTRODUCE NEW SERVICES WITH CORRESPONDING FEES BY GIVING THE
USER WRITTEN NOTICE OF THEIR AVAILABILITY AND APPLICABILITY."

Yes, over time we may introduce new fees for different services. If we do
so, we'll give you notice that they exist and how they apply. This is what
all businesses do. You won't be charged anything without knowing about it
and agreeing to it.

"USER MEANS ANY CONTRIBUTOR OR PURCHASER THAT USES ULTIMATSTOCK."

This is the correct definition of "User".

*You say that termination of the agreement is by written notice and is
effective in 14 days - does that mean that contributors cannot deletetheir
own content at any time? If not, why not?*

Termination of this Agreement has nothing to do with removing content.
However as you agree that we may sell the content on your behalf, deleting
content won't invalidate its use by other Users that have purchased it.

Ariene · « **Reply #18 on:** July 26, 2014, 23:57 »

Why open 3 threads in the same forum?

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-video/ultimatstock-searching-for-content-providers/msg388577/#msg388577
http://www.microstockgroup.com/new-sites-general/ultimatstock-searching-for-content-providers-%28photographers-videographers%29/

If they are removed, some copy here:

Quote from: Goofy on July 26, 2014, 22:27

had trouble just trying to sign up for an account...

Quote from: Goofy on July 26, 2014, 22:24

Beta- no IPTC--- I will wait...

Quote from: Ariene on July 26, 2014, 23:48

Right, stock site without IPTC reading is just not ready. Who will waste time for testing new site which is so time consuming? Most of us prepared images with iptc data to not waste time over and over again with every new site. Upload must be easy and fast this days. We have a lot of work to do with "expanding portfolios"
Btw. Lately I get invitations 1-5 times in a week. Is there new trend? New site must be really amazing, must offer something really exceptional to find authors and get clients from competition sites (big players).

CaptainYoung · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2014, 01:46 »

Quote from: Desiren on July 23, 2014, 22:29

Hello everyone, I am one of the owners of UltimatStock. We are a new site launching in 2014 and are currently looking for content providers. Our development stage is almost complete, and will be moving to the marketing phase shortly. Here are just some benefits of UltimatStock.

50% commission on sales.
Easy to use interface
Batch upload directly. (Images, Video or both) (Our minimum criteria for uploading video is 1920*1080P) meaning buyers are guaranteed the highest quality as a minimum. (photojpegs only uploaded in QuickTime format .mov
Upload and download model and property releases made easy directly whilst editing your content. Editorials do not require a release.
Once curated by our team, content is available for sale.
Content uploaded will automatically generate smaller resolutions.
You can easily change your prices for every resolution generated to help you sell.
You can interact on every piece of content uploaded, connect with buyers and other professional content providers.
Track your earning.
And more to come.

We are a new company so please make this happen We would appreciate any feedback and how you found using UltimatStock. Our mission is to create a different experience for everyone shooting stock. Upload today!

Look forward to seeing you there.

Kind Regards

UltimatStock team

www.ultimatstock.com

Hello! Desiren, I have upload some timelapse footages in your site, hopefully you can sell it better! :-}

Tror · « **Reply #20 on:** July 28, 2014, 02:48 »

Quote from: Desiren on July 24, 2014, 07:44

At this stage, payments made to contributors are through PayPal, we will also be implementing other payment methods in the near future for both contributors and buyers.

Bad move. Only paypal = no contribution from me. Get a proper payment processor.

Missing IPTC as well is a knockout argument. Those two points you should have addressed even before going beta. Many will exclude you only for IPTC or Paypal.

I will keep an eye on you. If you do not offer IPTC + a reliable payout method within the next month I will naturally stop paying attention and only re consider uploading if the community reports significant sales (difficult for a newcomer).

As cobalt said, it would help to put a proper street address and tax/VAT Id on your site. Starting up a company is not the moment to be shy

You wanna look professional and gain trust. "We are from Melbourne" is not enough.

Beyond that: Good luck guys! I hope you take it as constructive criticism :-)

Maximilian · « **Reply #21 on:** July 28, 2014, 07:13 »

Quote from: Tror on July 28, 2014, 02:48

Quote from: Desiren on July 24, 2014, 07:44
At this stage, payments made to contributors are through PayPal, we will also be implementing other payment methods in the near future for both contributors and buyers.

Bad move. Only paypal = no contribution from me. Get a proper payment processor.

For example?

Tror · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2014, 10:21 »

Quote from: Maximilian on July 28, 2014, 07:13

Quote from: Tror on July 28, 2014, 02:48
Quote from: Desiren on July 24, 2014, 07:44
At this stage, payments made to contributors are through PayPal, we will also be implementing other payment methods in the near future for both contributors and buyers.

Bad move. Only paypal = no contribution from me. Get a proper payment processor.

For example?

Payoneer, SWIFT, SEPA, Payza,....

Maximilian · « **Reply #23 on:** July 28, 2014, 11:28 »

Maybe iam blind, but IS, SS and so on only offer paypal or check or moneybookers?

Maximilian · « **Reply #24 on:** July 28, 2014, 11:32 »

while keywords arent able to ready by this ultimatestock-script.. why you dont offer us a easy access.
Can we just upload and you do all the other things?

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