@Sean Locke: I should have known back from the days at iS, it�s not wise to get in a discussion with you, no offense..     But re Getty, I think it�s rather usual business practice to not publish details about such contracts.
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But I�m getting back to being creative now..   

Is that 'creative/economical with the truth'?
When what you should really be saying is, "you'll get 50% of what we get, but we're not telling you what that is. And anyway, some sales at Getty are really low, so manage your expectations."
For the record, I get 20% of Getty sales, and my share has been as low as 40 cents.

The EyeEm Market is now working for the photographer side, and just end of last week I saw the first of my images showing up on the Getty Images site as part of the EyeEm collection.

I was asked to write down my experiences with the EyeEm market and how things work over there. In case you are interested, here is the article now: http://www.mystockphoto.org/eyeem-market-contributor-guide/

Hello Michael, I know this is an old post, but since it is now several months since you posted this, wondering how you are finding the EyeEm market on Getty? I have some photos sitting in limbo which have been selected for the Getty collection, but which I have not approved yet. I was waiting for EyeEm to launch their own market, but this keeps getting delayed. Any updated thoughts?

Quote from: EyeEm on May 14, 2014, 11:23

@Sean Locke: I should have known back from the days at iS, it�s not wise to get in a discussion with you, no offense..     But re Getty, I think it�s rather usual business practice to not publish details about such contracts.
...
But I�m getting back to being creative now..   

Is that 'creative/economical with the truth'?
When what you should really be saying is, "you'll get 50% of what we get, but we're not telling you what that is. And anyway, some sales at Getty are really low, so manage your expectations."
For the record, I get 20% of Getty sales, and my share has been as low as 40 cents.

Mine as low as 6 cents

Michael, I looked at that link to your pasta photo, then tried to click onwards to the rest of your port via the MichaelZwahlen/EyeEm link, but got
"Server Error in '/' Application.
The resource cannot be found.
Description: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.  Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.
Requested URL: /photographers/Michael Zwahlen / EyeEm/search"

Yes... sooooo...?

I can't change my username nor do I do the programming for the Getty website as you most likely know. No point in telling me that things don't work as they should. 

People who are involved: any sales?

I received 11 dollars in the first month, 52 in the second,5 dollars in the third. From around 100 images over on getty in the eyeem collection there. around 80% got chosen for getty, but all files will be available in their own marketplace.

But the eyeem marketplace hasn�t opened yet, so I have no idea what to expect, i don�t even know what price points they will have.

So at the moment I am sending content which the normal agencies wouldn�t take - files with very strong smartphone filters, files that have less than 3 mp etc...

My selection is not very systematic, it is a fun side project at this time.

I don�t think any of the files I send have a chance of becoming bestsellers or will turn into high volume sales. If I thought they did I would send them elsewhere.

The app is extremely easy and fun to use, so if they do get their marketplace going I can see quite a bit of my work going to eyeem because the upload is easy. But they still have to prove they can sell from their own site and it will take most of the year to understand where eyeem is going and how much time and attention they should get.

Also at the moment they have a smaller group of photographers. Once their marketplace opens, i expect them to turn on the flood, but we will see, maybe they have a plan for that.

But they take all my overfiltered stuff that nobody else likes, which makes me happy.

All are filternd with strong Smartphone filters and would have been rejected on istock under istocks old standards.

but this doesn't mean that normal photos don't sell, I simply don't have many normal images in what I send there.

So perhaps normal images would sell better on Getty, who knows?

It is much too early to draw any conclusions IMO. And Getty is not the interesting place for me, it is their own marketplace, which hasn't opened yet, that interests me.

If you are looking for good sales from Getty, then I would of course shoot more images with Models in a modern environemnt, maybe with the common outdoor against the sun, or faded 70's look...

You can try to just upload normal stock and see if they take it and if it sells. i am stickig to "Stuff I can't sell elsewhere" until the eyeem marketplace opens.

Perhaps try to follow their "Missions" that might be specific content Getty is looking for.

no, the files that are on getty will also be available on eyeem. the files are exclusive to eyeem who then sends some of them to getty.

the only real difference is that the files that move to getty can only be removed after 6 months, while the files that are only on eyeem can be removed anytime. I have done that a few times, because I changed my mind a few times and decided the file was "too normal" and I sent it elsewhere.

I don�t know the percentage that I am getting on getty, but the lowest I have had is 5 dollars, which is unusual. From my time on getty I remember there were lots of much smaller returns. So maybe they have a deal where you get more when it is a low value sale, or there is some kind of lower limit and less if it is higher? again, I have no idea, in total I have had 6 sales, you really can�t make any assumptions from that. The highest was 42 dollars, which isn�t bad. The average now is around 11 dollars. That is more than my average as an istock exclusive for normal main collection content. And again...only 6 sales...really not enough data for any kind of projection...

But for me whatever comes from getty should just be the add on, not the main income. I sincerly hope that their own marketplace will be the main focus and the majority of their money.

However, since the images I am sending now couldn�t be sold elswehere, even if I only got 10% from getty it would still be more than not selling them at all. And if the lowest return is really 5 dollars, that is much better than a sub sale. Again, maybe there are lower sales for some people and I simply haven�t had them yet.

So it is all total speculation. Until their own marketplace gets going, we are working in a cloud of mystery.

I�ll stick to the "fun images that can�t go elsewhere" and enjoy the journey. But I am not planning my financial stock life on them.

It is fun, it adds some money. no stress.

eta: this is the image I got 42 dollars for. I doubt it would have been accepted anywhere else and I don�t believe it is killer bestseller. I got lucky once and maybe this is the only sale this image will ever see.

https://www.eyeem.com/p/43060982

eta2: most of the images I have on eyeem are not in their marketplace. I am enjoying the app and just send whatever I like for fun and the community. Some of these images are available elsewhere as stock. So I am using eyeem as a mix of fun,showcase and to test the reactions to different smartphone filters on a series.  For me that has been the most valuable info, because I can use that for my regular stock work.

no, the files that are on getty will also be available on eyeem. the files are exclusive to eyeem who then sends some of them to getty.

the only real difference is that the files that move to getty can only be removed after 6 months, while the files that are only on eyeem can be removed anytime. I have done that a few times, because I changed my mind a few times and decided the file was "too normal" and I sent it elsewhere.

I don�t know the percentage that I am getting on getty, but the lowest I have had is 5 dollars, which is unusual. From my time on getty I remember there were lots of much smaller returns. So maybe they have a deal where you get more when it is a low value sale, or there is some kind of lower limit and less if it is higher? again, I have no idea, in total I have had 6 sales, you really can�t make any assumptions from that. The highest was 42 dollars, which isn�t bad. The average now is around 11 dollars. That is more than my average as an istock exclusive for normal main collection content. And again...only 6 sales...really not enough data for any kind of projection...

But for me whatever comes from getty should just be the add on, not the main income. I sincerly hope that their own marketplace will be the main focus and the majority of their money.

However, since the images I am sending now couldn�t be sold elswehere, even if I only got 10% from getty it would still be more than not selling them at all. And if the lowest return is really 5 dollars, that is much better than a sub sale. Again, maybe there are lower sales for some people and I simply haven�t had them yet.

So it is all total speculation. Until their own marketplace gets going, we are working in a cloud of mystery.

I�ll stick to the "fun images that can�t go elsewhere" and enjoy the journey. But I am not planning my financial stock life on them.

It is fun, it adds some money. no stress.

eta: this is the image I got 42 dollars for. I doubt it would have been accepted anywhere else and I don�t believe it is killer bestseller. I got lucky once and maybe this is the only sale this image will ever see.

https://www.eyeem.com/p/43060982

eta2: most of the images I have on eyeem are not in their marketplace. I am enjoying the app and just send whatever I like for fun and the community. Some of these images are available elsewhere as stock. So I am using eyeem as a mix of fun,showcase and to test the reactions to different smartphone filters on a series.  For me that has been the most valuable info, because I can use that for my regular stock work.

Oh, I think you�re returns are great! I was just trying to get some information, so thanks for that.

Maybe I�m a bit dim, but how do you tag your images? You can type some text but that�s not searchable, is it? So only those "groups" are searchable keywords?

Quote from: cobalt on February 08, 2015, 03:54

no, the files that are on getty will also be available on eyeem. the files are exclusive to eyeem who then sends some of them to getty.

Are you sure? It was my understanding that the images are *not* exclusive in any way unless you have them sent to Getty.

Yes, that's how I read it: When you upload images to the EyeEm Market, they are not exclusive. If they get selected for the Getty collection and you accept, only then you accept them to be exclusive with EyeEm & Getty.

Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on February 08, 2015, 05:29

Quote from: cobalt on February 08, 2015, 03:54

no, the files that are on getty will also be available on eyeem. the files are exclusive to eyeem who then sends some of them to getty.

Are you sure? It was my understanding that the images are *not* exclusive in any way unless you have them sent to Getty.

Yes, that's how I read it: When you upload images to the EyeEm Market, they are not exclusive. If they get selected for the Getty collection and you accept, only then you accept them to be exclusive with EyeEm & Getty.

Really??

You see, you learn something new every day. But it still means I have to send them content that is new and isn�t available elsewhere. because if it gets selected it is exclusive. But this would mean that the files they don�t select for getty could go to other smartphone collections, like fotolia or shutterstock. Or maybe I process a second batch without smartphone filters to make them sellable elsewhere.

But how will they encourage people to prefer the eyeem marketplace over gettyimages?

I would have thought that having more exclusive content of smartphone style images was the attraction.

Anyway, it is an interesting place and I wish them well. And yes, for the first 3 months and 100 files the returns are good. But I sincerly hope that making money from their own marketplace is what they are really going for and that it will be much more money then what they can get via getty.

Quote from: MichaelJayFoto on February 08, 2015, 06:30

Quote from: MarcvsTvllivs on February 08, 2015, 05:29

Quote from: cobalt on February 08, 2015, 03:54

no, the files that are on getty will also be available on eyeem. the files are exclusive to eyeem who then sends some of them to getty.

Are you sure? It was my understanding that the images are *not* exclusive in any way unless you have them sent to Getty.

Yes, that's how I read it: When you upload images to the EyeEm Market, they are not exclusive. If they get selected for the Getty collection and you accept, only then you accept them to be exclusive with EyeEm & Getty.

You see, you learn something new every day. But it still means I have to send them content that is new and isn�t available elsewhere. because if it gets selected it is exclusive. But this would mean that the files they don�t select for getty could go to other smartphone collections, like fotolia or shutterstock. Or maybe I process a second batch without smartphone filters to make them sellable elsewhere.

I upload firstly to Eyeem and after the Getty selection and my personal selection for Getty(I try to be a small quantity) I go to the second step and upload to Fotolia and the others.

I became interested on the smart phone collection in Shutterstock. How it works?
I've tried to upload several times mobile images to Shutterstock and all rejected due the technical problems(I use iPhone 6+) After that I ask them why and the response was to not use the Shutterstock mobile application for to upload mobile images, but to upload images "taken by a professional camera". I do not know to smile or to cry, I did not expect this kind of response from Shutterstock when they have upload option for images in their mobile app. Am I missing something?

Maybe ask in their forums. But a smartphone Upload App that doesn't like images taken with smartphones is weird.

To me too. I hope this will have evaluation soon, it is not normal Shutterstock to lag behind in terms of mobile photography.