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« on: December 01, 2013, 18:03 »
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Hello everybody,

these days I'm trying to get pass iStock vector application,
but I've been rejected twice already.
I really need some opinion how to improve my illustrations or to know what I'm doing wrong.
I admit, I'm not professional at vector art, I'm more free hand person.
These are the examples of work I sent last time:
1. newbielink:http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8751/t2w5.jpg [nonactive]
2. newbielink:http://imageshack.us/a/img35/3704/m0at.jpg [nonactive]
3. newbielink:http://imageshack.us/a/img35/4674/5o1w.jpg [nonactive]

this is the text they send me for all illustrations:
sorry but this artwork is not what we are currently looking for in terms of composition, color usage, use of line and shape, concept, detail and/or file complexity

Thank you very much


BoBoBolinski

« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2013, 06:35 »
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These are not up to IS standards. The kitchen in particular looks like it is constructed almost entirely from the shape tools ( rectangle, circle etc) with very little drawing skills. The other 2 look like that too, to a lesser degree. They look very amateur I'm afraid, you need to develop your drawing skills and ignore the preset shapes. Draw in a sketchbook, with a pen, forget using software until you have become more confident as an artist. Looking at the sushi image, you also need to understand perspective a bit too. Some of the oval sushi is upright, some leaning over, it just does not hold together as an image. You are relying too much on the software, not enough on your drawing ability.

« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2013, 08:19 »
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Great advice above..

forget istock for now.. it is not useful for you if you want to become a good artist..

you have to be good on paper if you want to have any chance.. software is only a help tool.. it won't make you an artist..

you should sketch a lot, practice a lot, and try to get better with natural drawing..

if you don't take these suggestions seriously and focus on drawing with a pencil, on an actual paper you are not going too far..

« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2013, 09:25 »
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You may try to draw a simple object first.
Just like the Sushi on the table you draw(moat.jpg).
Then search the same images on the IS site.
Try to imitate those.
I do not encourage you to copy, but creation usually is started from imitation.
Good Luck :)

« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2013, 10:37 »
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Frankly, it looks a bit like beginner's vector graphics. The vector illustrations are very simplistic and basic, almost devoid of a recognisable style.
You could pass it off as a artistic choice, but to be able to do that, the style must be consistent and the execution must be flawless. And that's what's lacking in your illustrations.

For instance:
1 The kitchen illustration is made up of standard shapes, some outlined, some without a stroke. The fonts are ugly. Some shapes appear rounded, others are flat. There's one gradient shape that looks off. The color palette is dull.
2 The perspective is incorrect. A deliberately distorted perspective could work as an artistic choice, but here it just looks amateurish because of its inconsistency. The banner and font are too basic. The face is anatomically incorrect and a bit skewed.
3 This one has the most potential in my opinion, but its composition is boring. Also, use a better color palette and be consistent with the level of detail.

Maybe it's because of your technical skills (which need a lot of work), but your artistic skills could use some work as well. My advice would be to take a good look at some professional artwork on istock and try to reach that level.

Could you show some of your freehand work?

EmberMike

« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2013, 14:44 »
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It's very amateurish stuff, honestly. Very basic shapes and compositions. If your intent is to get into this type of illustrated work, I think it needs a more organic look to it. It is very obvious that you are just making things out of preset shapes.

Maybe try basing your work on hand drawings instead. Right now everything is just too rigid and squared-off.

« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2013, 11:16 »
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Thank you very much for you time and advices, it was very helpful.
Yeah, i know they are pretty simple and made of simple shapes. The things is I didn't do it
from the sketch and I didn't use my style, I wanted to try something completely different, but I guess
i failed big time.
This is what I do, for example newbielink:http://www.artween.com/var/artween/storage/images/students/barbara-ismailovic/theme/mermaid-animal-spirit/1029364-1-eng-US/Mermaid-animal-spirit_oeuvre_grand.jpg [nonactive] but it's not vector.

I will practice more with illustrator and I will listen to you advices.

Thanks again a lot guys!

« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2013, 17:36 »
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That is much better than the vector work we have seen above..

you should definitely work more on paper, scan your work and trace your own original art in illustrator..

if you have more work like that you can also submit raster work to IS using the photographer application process..

one more thing: definitely use "pen tool" of illustrator more.. not the basic squares and circles..

good luck..

ShadySue

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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2013, 18:39 »
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But here's weird. I was searching recent vectors at iStock and found a relatively recently accepted artist whose work was almost all compiled of various shapes, which even I, the most artistically-challenged person (otherwise with full faculties) on the planet, and the most beginnery beginner on Illustrator can replicate.
I was suprised, as even way back when I started at iStock, vectors were being rejected for being 'too simple'. They are however well done, and of far simpler subjects (or far more simplified) than the OP is attempting.

« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2013, 04:05 »
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Thank you very much for you time and advices, it was very helpful.
Yeah, i know they are pretty simple and made of simple shapes. The things is I didn't do it
from the sketch and I didn't use my style, I wanted to try something completely different, but I guess
i failed big time.
This is what I do, for example http://www.artween.com/var/artween/storage/images/students/barbara-ismailovic/theme/mermaid-animal-spirit/1029364-1-eng-US/Mermaid-animal-spirit_oeuvre_grand.jpg but it's not vector.

I will practice more with illustrator and I will listen to you advices.

Thanks again a lot guys!


That's great work. You should really draw on paper, scan it and (auto)trace* it in Illustrator. The hardest thing would be to replicate the color in vector style, but it's not impossible.

*Keep in mind, autotrace almost always needs clean-up with the pen tool afterwards.

« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2013, 05:03 »
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I like your work. personally I find vector illustration much too restrictive, I like to experiment  in different mediums and any good illustration vector on not sells well. However I think a good understanding of Vector based illustration technique is essential  to computer based art work. Whatever lets your creativity flow ( I have sold on Istock  Vector, watercolour, oil painting, pen and ink, pencil sketches, 3d renders, bitmap paintings and even photos of fimo models). Have Fun and I am sure you will do well.

« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2013, 23:29 »
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I like your new work. If you want to draw it in illustrator, that would be another drawing, which is different from the traditional hand drawn on paper.
Vector diagram has the advantage, you can see its constituent objects.
How to learn Vector?
Maybe try to find close to your style illustration on IS site, you can buy it's eps or ai  file.
Then you have a good example can refer. ;)

EmberMike

« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2013, 23:40 »
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...This is what I do, for example http://www.artween.com/var/artween/storage/images/students/barbara-ismailovic/theme/mermaid-animal-spirit/1029364-1-eng-US/Mermaid-animal-spirit_oeuvre_grand.jpg but it's not vector...


Man, that is soooo much better than the other stuff you posted. That's your style, and you need to work in that direction with vector work. I'd look at doing hand-drawn stuff like what you have there, but in layers. For example in what you posted, do the line work in black, scan that into Illustrator and run a Live Trace on it, clean it up, and then create a layer underneath that and add color.

Here's something of mine: http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=125075126 Not nearly as detailed as what you can do but just to make my point that you can do hand-drawn stuff and convert it to vector. You can create texture, like what's in the background there, layer colors in, you can do vector versions of a lot of the detail you're showing in the example you linked, it just comes together a little differently than it would on paper. 

Maybe consider investing in a tablet, Wacom or similar. You could probably do really nice stuff with a tablet, working in a hand-drawn style but directly to vector shapes and lines.

Your skill is definitely in the more organic looking drawing. Focus on that, don't even bother with the basic shape stuff. Stick with what you know and are already good at, build on that and find ways to translate that into vector work, and you'll have a lot more success in stock.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2013, 23:44 by EmberMike »

« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2013, 07:11 »
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thank you guys a lot :)

« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2013, 14:19 »
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Your kind of hand-drawn illustrations when properly traced, are usually approved, as long as you can provide the original scanned drawing. Ive been uploading much less elaborate cartoon for years, and Im no expert. :)
You shoud also go the extra mile about subject!


 

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