Author Topic: Istock / Photos.com... Official opt out (Read 9111 times)

vonkara · « **on:** June 05, 2009, 17:51 »

After ageeing to the new agreement on Istock. They ask if we want to opt in-out to the *** Photos.com JIU partnership. I have obviously opted out. I didn't followed a lot the latest news about this. I actually remember there was some kind of improvement. I could have dream of that though...

I would like to ask what everyone does about this "deal" LOL

melastmohican · « **Reply #1 on:** June 05, 2009, 17:58 »

For me it is not going to be big loss but it can be a gain:
1. I already sell images thru StockXpert/Photos.com
2. I got only 130 images on IS
3. I do not sell a lot on IS

It cannot be much worse than that :-)

gostwyck · « **Reply #2 on:** June 05, 2009, 18:22 »

Quote from: melastmohican on June 05, 2009, 17:58

For me it is not going to be big loss but it can be a gain:
1. I already sell images thru StockXpert/Photos.com
2. I got only 130 images on IS
3. I do not sell a lot on IS

It cannot be much worse than that :-)

If your images are already there via StockXpert then ... a) what's the point ... and b) you do realise you get (even) lower commissions via IS

??

goldenangel · « **Reply #3 on:** June 05, 2009, 18:31 »

I'm opted out too. The only point for people that are already there through StockXpert would be that someone finds their images through IS controlled vocabulary, but what's the probability of that

Anyway, I would not be happy to get 25 cents for an XL image. Even Crestock offers increase from that price after 100 downloads.

melastmohican · « **Reply #4 on:** June 05, 2009, 18:39 »

Quote from: gostwyck on June 05, 2009, 18:22

If your images are already there via StockXpert then ... a) what's the point ... and b) you do realise you get (even) lower commissions via IS ??

If only all agencies accept same photos...

I got almost nothing from IS now so what would be a damage?

Dreamframer · « **Reply #5 on:** June 05, 2009, 19:05 »

Opted out

madelaide · « **Reply #6 on:** June 05, 2009, 19:10 »

I opted out, but if I understood it they are only taking old unselling images? It might be not too bad giving them a chance to sell elsewhere, since they are probably inferior images for today's standards.

Did I understand it correctly or not?

Talanis · « **Reply #7 on:** June 05, 2009, 19:12 »

Quote from: madelaide on June 05, 2009, 19:10

I opted out, but if I understood it they are only taking old unselling images? It might be not too bad giving them a chance to sell elsewhere, since they are probably inferior images for today's standards.

Did I understand it correctly or not?

That's how I understood it too: Files that did not sell in the last 18 months I think.

goldenangel · « **Reply #8 on:** June 05, 2009, 19:12 »

Quote from: madelaide on June 05, 2009, 19:10

I opted out, but if I understood it they are only taking old unselling images? It might be not too bad giving them a chance to sell elsewhere, since they are probably inferior images for today's standards.

Did I understand it correctly or not?

As I understand, you can individually put any of your images there. They just offer to do it in bulk for older images.

null · « **Reply #9 on:** June 05, 2009, 19:19 »

I opted out since I have some very good sellers at other sites that don't sell well at IS (< 5 downloads) and I don't want them to be for grabs on photos.com. For the same reason I don't want any photos in the dollar bin. For the rest I'm very happy with IS as to earnings.

vonkara · « **Reply #10 on:** June 05, 2009, 20:26 »

Quote from: FlemishDreams on June 05, 2009, 19:19

I opted out since I have some very good sellers at other sites that don't sell well at IS (< 5 downloads) and I don't want them to be for grabs on photos.com. For the same reason I don't want any photos in the dollar bin. For the rest I'm very happy with IS as to earnings.

Thanks I didn't thought about that!

Pixart · « **Reply #11 on:** June 06, 2009, 00:27 »

I'm out. But is there a strategy we should play? Should we add the photos with 0 sales, give them some momentum and take them out of the subs pool? Many of these are popular photos but they were never given favor by the search engine gods on that particular upload day.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2009, 00:58 »

Quote from: madelaide on June 05, 2009, 19:10

I opted out, but if I understood it they are only taking old unselling images? It might be not too bad giving them a chance to sell elsewhere, since they are probably inferior images for today's standards.

You can put anything in your iStock portfolio on Photos.com/JIU, but for exclusives, if it's 18 months or newer, it can only exist on one site. I did confirm (via the forums) that if an exclusive wanted to upload new stuff and designate it to go to Partner sites, they could do that. IOW, it doesn't have to be on IS, just only one one site or the other. Number of sales doesn't matter (except for the initial move of files for those who opted in from the Artist Agreement change page).

Kngkyle · « **Reply #13 on:** June 06, 2009, 01:19 »

I opted out. Lots of the images that haven't sold in 18 months on Istock are hot sellers on other sites and all are already on Photos.com/JUI through the StockXpert deal anyway so absolutely no point for me to opt-in.

sharpshot · « **Reply #14 on:** June 06, 2009, 01:44 »

I am opted out because they pay 25 cents. StockXpert pay us 20% more, I can't understand why non-exclusives would accept 25 cents, it will just give them the excuse to cut our commissions through StockXpert. Other subs sites wont pay us more if we are willing to accept 25 cents. I want higher commissions, not lower.

I am not pleased with the 30 cents from StockXpert when SS pay me 38 cents. All the subs sites should pay us more as downloads increase.

Dook · « **Reply #15 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:14 »

I opted in. Actually, I opt in everything. What is the point of opting out any offer or deal with these agencies. At the moment I agreed to sell my pictures for microstock prices I said goodbye to wise and reasonable thinking anyway.

dunsmore · « **Reply #16 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:33 »

Quote from: Dook on June 06, 2009, 07:14

I opted in. Actually, I opt in everything. What is the point of opting out any offer or deal with these agencies. At the moment I agreed to sell my pictures for microstock prices I said goodbye to wise and reasonable thinking anyway.

Way to go... I'm giving everything away for free, after all that's what they want

ShadySue · « **Reply #17 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:37 »

I'm sitting on the fence just now. Since BM2, old files, even older than 2 years are getting downloads. I dont want to have the same file in both places unless I'm as sure as I can be that the customers are different, so makes sense to have them only on iStock.
I'm wavering about the ones I put into the dollar bin under JJRD's experiment: these have almost all languished without trace, and even those which were getting downloads have slowed down since the prices went up. Conspiracy theorist, moi?

Kngkyle · « **Reply #18 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:43 »

Quote from: Dook on June 06, 2009, 07:14

I opted in. Actually, I opt in everything. What is the point of opting out any offer or deal with these agencies. At the moment I agreed to sell my pictures for microstock prices I said goodbye to wise and reasonable thinking anyway.

Quote from: dunsmore on June 06, 2009, 07:33

Quote from: Dook on June 06, 2009, 07:14
I opted in. Actually, I opt in everything. What is the point of opting out any offer or deal with these agencies. At the moment I agreed to sell my pictures for microstock prices I said goodbye to wise and reasonable thinking anyway.

Way to go... I'm giving everything away for free, after all that's what they want

All these anti-anything microstock people are getting annoying. I assume it is the same person or few people just making multiple accounts to avoid the ignores.

Dook · « **Reply #19 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:47 »

You are not right at all! I am a long time microstock photographer. But, cant we joke sometimes? Whats wrong with you people?

Milinz · « **Reply #20 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:58 »

Opted out ;-)

No point in getting 25 cents / dl on 19 photos and 2 videos from iStock while I have over 800 images already online on JUI/photos.com thanks to StockXpert.

Some of my images are showing on first pages at JUI when searching for specific subject... And they sell like hot-cakes there!

What is the point then in opting-in via iStock?

Kngkyle · « **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2009, 08:14 »

Quote from: Dook on June 06, 2009, 07:47

You are not right at all! I am a long time microstock photographer. But, cant we joke sometimes? Whats wrong with you people?

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/official-microstocks-pay-less-than-a-pickle-!/

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/att-all-microstockers/msg101797/#msg101797

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/official-microstocks-pay-less-than-a-pickle-!/

http://www.microstockgroup.com/ranting-general-stock/micros-will-eat-microtards-!/

How much more must we hear about how little we make? I think we all know what we are getting. We don't need to be reminded 5x a week. Or at least that's not what I come here to read about.

I do apologize for assuming you were someone else though.

Dook · « **Reply #22 on:** June 06, 2009, 08:47 »

Quote from: Kngkyle on June 06, 2009, 08:14

Quote from: Dook on June 06, 2009, 07:47
You are not right at all! I am a long time microstock photographer. But, cant we joke sometimes? Whats wrong with you people?

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/official-microstocks-pay-less-than-a-pickle-!/

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/att-all-microstockers/msg101797/#msg101797

http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/official-microstocks-pay-less-than-a-pickle-!/

http://www.microstockgroup.com/ranting-general-stock/micros-will-eat-microtards-!/

How much more must we hear about how little we make? I think we all know what we are getting. We don't need to be reminded 5x a week. Or at least that's not what I come here to read about.

I do apologize for assuming you were someone else though.

Well, talking about this Old Hippy treads, I understand you. I had enough, too.

rene · « **Reply #23 on:** June 07, 2009, 08:04 »

I've opt out at StockXpert from the beginning. Opt out at IS too.

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Author Topic: Istock / Photos.com... Official opt out (Read 9111 times)

vonkara

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gostwyck

goldenangel

melastmohican

Dreamframer

madelaide

Talanis

goldenangel

null

vonkara

Pixart

Jo Ann Snover

Kngkyle

sharpshot

Dook

dunsmore

ShadySue

Kngkyle

Dook

Milinz

Kngkyle

Dook

rene

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