Author Topic: Is iStock worth it? (Read 40882 times)

AlessandraRC · « **Reply #25 on:** March 24, 2017, 08:32 »

It is worth for me. They are very good at negotiating higher priced licenses. On average I earn more there per download than I earn at SS.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #26 on:** March 24, 2017, 08:34 »

Quote from: AlessandraRC on March 24, 2017, 08:32

It is worth for me. They are very good at negotiating higher priced licenses. On average I earn more there per download than I earn at SS.

Are you exclusive? I cant believe an independent has a higher RPD on IS than SS once the compulsory PP and Subs sales are taken into account.

miR156 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 24, 2017, 10:22 »

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on March 24, 2017, 08:34

Quote from: AlessandraRC on March 24, 2017, 08:32
It is worth for me. They are very good at negotiating higher priced licenses. On average I earn more there per download than I earn at SS.
Are you exclusive? I cant believe an independent has a higher RPD on IS than SS once the compulsory PP and Subs sales are taken into account.

I went to look at my stats and surprisingly for me as non-exclusive, RPD from IS and SS are not that different. In Jan. the RPDs are 0.98 vs 1.0; In Feb. IS is 0.9 while SS is 1.5 because of multiple Single & other downloads. This month SS is around 0.6 because I have 0 large sale. So on average for me RPDs from IS and SS are comparable, maybe SS a tiny bit ahead. RPD from FT was lower, almost always around 0.6.

drd · « **Reply #28 on:** March 24, 2017, 11:03 »

Quote from: Arnold on March 23, 2017, 15:45

The information here on MSG forum is very confusing: recommendations, not only in this thread, are very clear: stay away from iStock! Yet I see at the right hand side of my screen that they are still firmly ranked as no. 2 of the "big four". Apparently people are still making good money despite the low royalties. Note that the rating, whatever the number means, increased from 31.9 yesterday to 35 today which at least means that the list is active and kept up to date. As a newbie, why would one not want to contribute to the second best in the list? Unless the list is completely meaningless, I would know where to go....

The poll results on the right hand side do not reflect the royalty changes since 23 December last year. Also the main trend is that the earnings ratings are falling.

https://www.change.org/p/jonathan-klein-getty-images-istock-don-t-slash-our-royalties?recruiter=63598560&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=des-lg-share_petition-reason_msg

tickstock · « **Reply #29 on:** March 24, 2017, 11:30 »

As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.

drd · « **Reply #30 on:** March 24, 2017, 12:10 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30

As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.

thanks for popping in Lobo!

tickstock · « **Reply #31 on:** March 24, 2017, 12:24 »

Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 12:10

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30
As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.

thanks for popping in Lobo!

Sorry you don't like hearing differing views.

drd · « **Reply #32 on:** March 24, 2017, 12:35 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 12:24

Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 12:10
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30
As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.

thanks for popping in Lobo!
Sorry you don't like hearing differing views.

I am happy for you if that is true! Do not forget to take off the December GI sales from the January statement though.

tickstock · « **Reply #33 on:** March 24, 2017, 12:51 »

Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 12:35

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 12:24
Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 12:10
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30
As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.

thanks for popping in Lobo!
Sorry you don't like hearing differing views.

I am happy for you if that is true! Do not forget to take off the December GI sales from the January statement though.

Even taking out some sales from Jan, it was up year on year. Feb. was way up though and that's why I'm optimistic.

drd · « **Reply #34 on:** March 24, 2017, 13:00 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 12:51

Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 12:35
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 12:24
Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 12:10
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30
As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.

thanks for popping in Lobo!
Sorry you don't like hearing differing views.

I am happy for you if that is true! Do not forget to take off the December GI sales from the January statement though.
Even taking out some sales from Jan, it was up year on year. Feb. was way up though and that's why I'm optimistic.

You have to see how many more images you have sold compared to last year jan and feb. Now everyone is in the fog because of the new pricing system and I wonder how much more we would get with previous royalties system.

tickstock · « **Reply #35 on:** March 24, 2017, 13:07 »

Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 13:00

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 12:51
Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 12:35
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 12:24
Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 12:10
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30
As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.

thanks for popping in Lobo!
Sorry you don't like hearing differing views.

I am happy for you if that is true! Do not forget to take off the December GI sales from the January statement though.
Even taking out some sales from Jan, it was up year on year. Feb. was way up though and that's why I'm optimistic.
You have to see how many more images you have sold compared to last year jan and feb. Now everyone is in the fog because of the new pricing system and I wonder how much more we would get with previous royalties system.

As an exclusive I think I get more per sale under the new system.

drd · « **Reply #36 on:** March 24, 2017, 13:08 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 13:07

Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 13:00
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 12:51
Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 12:35
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 12:24
Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 12:10
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30
As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.

thanks for popping in Lobo!
Sorry you don't like hearing differing views.

I am happy for you if that is true! Do not forget to take off the December GI sales from the January statement though.
Even taking out some sales from Jan, it was up year on year. Feb. was way up though and that's why I'm optimistic.
You have to see how many more images you have sold compared to last year jan and feb. Now everyone is in the fog because of the new pricing system and I wonder how much more we would get with previous royalties system.
As an exclusive I think I get more per sale under the new system.

Good for you! I don't get the same rpd.

ShadySue · « **Reply #37 on:** March 24, 2017, 13:55 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30

As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.

Good for you.
For me, Jan and Feb were both far lower than every month last year. And every month in 2016 was the worst Jan, Feb, March etc since becoming exclusive in 2007. Certainly no reason for me to resume uploading - far too many tiny value sales (sub 10c as an exclusive) which isn't fair trade, but interesting to see at least one person is having a different experience.

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #38 on:** March 24, 2017, 14:12 »

I am up on previous years and think it is even more reason to stop uploading to them.

tickstock · « **Reply #39 on:** March 24, 2017, 14:12 »

Quote from: ShadySue on March 24, 2017, 13:55

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30
As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.
Good for you.
For me, Jan and Feb were both far lower than every month last year. And every month in 2016 was the worst Jan, Feb, March since becoming exclusive in 2007. Certainly no reason for me to resume uploading - far too many tiny value sales (sub 10c as an exclusive) which isn't fair trade, but interesting to see at least one person is having a different experience.

The lowest you could get paid is 19c for subs.

drd · « **Reply #40 on:** March 24, 2017, 14:39 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 14:12

Quote from: ShadySue on March 24, 2017, 13:55
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30
As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.
Good for you.
For me, Jan and Feb were both far lower than every month last year. And every month in 2016 was the worst Jan, Feb, March since becoming exclusive in 2007. Certainly no reason for me to resume uploading - far too many tiny value sales (sub 10c as an exclusive) which isn't fair trade, but interesting to see at least one person is having a different experience.
The lowest you could get paid is 19c for subs.

you say you are exclusive at istock and that you are happy with 19c per image? btw I got even lower than that...

Justanotherphotographer · « **Reply #41 on:** March 24, 2017, 14:45 »

Sub as in lower than I think, not as in subscription sale.

tickstock · « **Reply #42 on:** March 24, 2017, 14:46 »

Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 14:39

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 14:12
Quote from: ShadySue on March 24, 2017, 13:55
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30
As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.
Good for you.
For me, Jan and Feb were both far lower than every month last year. And every month in 2016 was the worst Jan, Feb, March since becoming exclusive in 2007. Certainly no reason for me to resume uploading - far too many tiny value sales (sub 10c as an exclusive) which isn't fair trade, but interesting to see at least one person is having a different experience.
The lowest you could get paid is 19c for subs.

you say you are exclusive at istock and that you are happy with 19c per image? btw I got even lower than that...

19c is for the lowest royalty rate, not my rate. That's also the minimum for a sub sale some sub sales get $10 or $15.

drd · « **Reply #43 on:** March 24, 2017, 14:48 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 14:46

Quote from: drd on March 24, 2017, 14:39
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 14:12
Quote from: ShadySue on March 24, 2017, 13:55
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30
As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.
Good for you.
For me, Jan and Feb were both far lower than every month last year. And every month in 2016 was the worst Jan, Feb, March since becoming exclusive in 2007. Certainly no reason for me to resume uploading - far too many tiny value sales (sub 10c as an exclusive) which isn't fair trade, but interesting to see at least one person is having a different experience.
The lowest you could get paid is 19c for subs.

you say you are exclusive at istock and that you are happy with 19c per image? btw I got even lower than that...
19c is for the lowest royalty rate, not my rate. That's also the minimum for a sub sale some sub sales get $10 or $15.

Ha ha ha ha ha... $10 and $15 for a sub sale. How many of these have you got??! I got ZERO!
PS: seriously Lobo or whoever you are from istock/getty STOP the fake news!

tickstock · « **Reply #44 on:** March 24, 2017, 14:50 »

It's a big mix maybe one day I'll go through and see what the average is.

ShadySue · « **Reply #45 on:** March 24, 2017, 15:37 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 14:12

Quote from: ShadySue on March 24, 2017, 13:55
Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 11:30
As an exclusive I can say I'm excited about IS for the first time in a long while. Jan. and Feb. earnings were better than almost every month from the past couple years.
Good for you.
For me, Jan and Feb were both far lower than every month last year. And every month in 2016 was the worst Jan, Feb, March since becoming exclusive in 2007. Certainly no reason for me to resume uploading - far too many tiny value sales (sub 10c as an exclusive) which isn't fair trade, but interesting to see at least one person is having a different experience.
The lowest you could get paid is 19c for subs.

I've had sales as low as 6c. I've queried it but no response as yet. Also, I'm by no means the only exclusive who has 6c sales. That's for these 'premium access' sales whereby iS gets more money without officially lowering our percentage. Under G+ I had sales so low (down to 12c) I questioned it and support told me they were correct and that my percentage was 30%. Premium access shows as 20%. However, that isn't going to make up the difference between 6c and 19c.
In any case, 19c as a sale for an exclusive is nothing to be happy about.
There have been lots of questions on both the iS forums and two official Fb groups I'm on about the large numbers of sales below the official minimum, but nothing on Fb, and nothing the last time I was on their forum. In fact, there are far too many important questions on their forum which are never answered.

tickstock · « **Reply #46 on:** March 24, 2017, 15:44 »

Not sure the exact questions you have but most have been answered on the forums, it's not always easy to find that answer though.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #47 on:** March 24, 2017, 15:53 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 15:44

Not sure the exact questions you have but most have been answered on the forums, it's not always easy to find that answer though.

Seems to me her question is "why are there large numbers of sales below the minimum commission rate iStock announced", saying that you don't know the question she's referring to and then dismissing it with a vague suggestion that it's probable been answered sounds like a corporate fobbing off to me.

tickstock · « **Reply #48 on:** March 24, 2017, 15:56 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on March 24, 2017, 15:53

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 15:44
Not sure the exact questions you have but most have been answered on the forums, it's not always easy to find that answer though.
Seems to me her question is "why are there large numbers of sales below the minimum commission rate iStock announced", saying that you don't know the question she's referring to and then dismissing it with a vague suggestion that it's probable been answered sounds like a corporate fobbing off to me.

It's not that, there are different answers for different things. Lower royalties for subs has a different answer than lower for Premium Access. Both of those have been answered in the forums. Maybe there are specifics of her case that make it different I don't know.

KB · « **Reply #49 on:** March 24, 2017, 15:59 »

Quote from: tickstock on March 24, 2017, 14:12

The lowest you could get paid is 19c for subs.

I wonder why my Feb report has the following 'iStock Subscription' sale entries then?
0.03
0.04
0.06
0.08
0.14
0.15
0.15

I guess "minimum" means, "the lowest you can get ... except when it's lower".

Or, maybe all those sales were reported incorrectly?

But what's this? My Jan statement has these sub sales listed:
0.03
0.06
0.07
0.07
0.07
0.07
0.07
0.07
0.08
0.15

I guess those were all a mistake, too.

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Author Topic: Is iStock worth it? (Read 40882 times)

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