Author Topic: I Can't Tick off "I Agree" (Read 11980 times)

Gannet77 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 03, 2009, 06:53 »

Quote from: whatalife on June 03, 2009, 06:30

When I first read the note last night I thought it was saying that opting in would automatically sweep all the eligible files into the other sites. When I realized that wasn't the case, I did go through and opt a few in. They are files that were reactivated from dollar bin, or that I had at one time deactivated myself because they were total crap and not up to par with the slightly less crappy work that's in my portfolio now.

I did remove these particular images from istock though. I don't think I want them in both places at the same time. For those who opted in, did you leave your files on istock as well?

At the moment, yes, I have opted to leave them on iStock too.

My opinion is that iStock shouldn't be offering that option - since they are though, I feel I'd be a fool not to take it.

It's an issue I may revisit later. There are two months yet before this thing goes live, and we can change this for individual files anytime before or after that.

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #26 on:** June 03, 2009, 06:59 »

Quote from: stacey_newman on June 02, 2009, 23:25

yes, i'll keep you posted. if it works out, I won't be saying I told you so. I'll simply be glad it worked out. if it doesn't work out, let's hope we're not worse off. I think opting out is a misguided decision, but an understandable one given the uncertainty and the as yet unproven differentiation of buyers between istock and photos.com

in any case, I'm not evangelizing my decision. it is a tough call for all of us. no one here wants to contribute to the end of iStock. so we all have to do what we think is best. I personally believe they know what they are doing and they have every interest in protecting iStock's business, so that being said, I want in on the ground floor of this program. hope I'm not wrong.

How does this protect iStock's business?

m@m · « **Reply #27 on:** June 03, 2009, 08:27 »

Quote from: stacey_newman on June 02, 2009, 22:24

this type of post ^ is petty and unnecessary. this has been a tough and divisive issue. the least we can do is respect one another's decisions.

stacey, my post was not based on criticism, but on the obvious, you're an IS exclusive correct?

Dreamframer · « **Reply #28 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:24 »

I'm opted out because:
1. I'm here less than 18 months
2. Have no files in Dollar Bin
3. I have all my images on Photos.com already

m@m · « **Reply #29 on:** June 03, 2009, 09:49 »

Same here.

stacey_newman · « **Reply #30 on:** June 03, 2009, 10:55 »

sorry m@m, I read your comment as sarcastic and personally aimed.

Sean - I don't know. I don't have any answers about how. I just can't logically believe they have made a decision that will result in the demise of a continuously growing and successful business. there is no common sense in that theory. so, again, I don't know, I just assume that they do know.

michealo · « **Reply #31 on:** June 03, 2009, 11:32 »

Stacey is this because business leaders always make the right choices?

stacey_newman · « **Reply #32 on:** June 03, 2009, 13:19 »

what's the point of addressing "business leaders" in general terms? we're talking about iStockphoto specifically--reviewing iStock's history, as well as its track record in regards to implementing industry-leading changes--this leads me to a common sense-based assumption that they are once again forging a path forward for their contributors.

I'm an exclusive, and I was quite a reluctant exclusive for over a year until things settled a bit with the new search. if this plan fails miserably, my entire microstock career rests with iStock so I'm putting myself out there. that's about as much trust in their knowledge as I can demonstrate.

bittersweet · « **Reply #33 on:** June 03, 2009, 13:44 »

Quote from: Gannet77 on June 03, 2009, 06:53

At the moment, yes, I have opted to leave them on iStock too.

My opinion is that iStock shouldn't be offering that option - since they are though, I feel I'd be a fool not to take it.

It's an issue I may revisit later. There are two months yet before this thing goes live, and we can change this for individual files anytime before or after that.

My decision to remove them from istock was based solely on the fact that these were images that I had already removed from my portfolio anyway... and there were reasons for that. Namely, they are crap. But, since I've seen plenty of worse images at photos.com, I think they might be right at home there.

I can't see myself ever uploading my best work to a site where i am guaranteed such a tiny commission. I also agree with you that them allowing the same "exclusive" files in both places is a big big mistake. Don't know what it will mean, but I'm doing my homework and getting my ducks in a row to weather the storm no matter what happens.

gostwyck · « **Reply #34 on:** June 03, 2009, 20:20 »

Quote from: stacey_newman on June 03, 2009, 13:19

... reviewing iStock's history, as well as its track record in regards to implementing industry-leading changes--this leads me to a common sense-based assumption that they are once again forging a path forward for their contributors.

How many industry-leading changes would you actually attribute to Istock __ say in the last couple of years that you've been around?

stacey_newman · « **Reply #35 on:** June 03, 2009, 20:29 »

you don't really have any interest in what I think. so why bother? ^ just say what your post implies, that my three years of experience gives me zero right to an opinion next to your career since the advent of microstock. there you go. your point is made. it is too bad you take this route. you're such an accomplished photographer, but with such a mean streak.

I don't plan on responding to any of your questions with real answers again. this is just bold-faced intimidation. take it out on someone else please.

Suljo · « **Reply #36 on:** June 03, 2009, 20:39 »

Can you believe? I thick Opt-In?!?!

Why?
Unsolded or under 5 solded files in 18 months in my port are under 5% I think and that will not take any effect on any additional sales on photos dot com or Jupiter unlimited even they are almost there provided by StockXpert.

michealo · « **Reply #37 on:** June 04, 2009, 04:55 »

Quote from: stacey_newman on June 03, 2009, 20:29

you don't really have any interest in what I think. so why bother? ^ just say what your post implies, that my three years of experience gives me zero right to an opinion next to your career since the advent of microstock. there you go. your point is made. it is too bad you take this route. you're such an accomplished photographer, but with such a mean streak.

I don't plan on responding to any of your questions with real answers again. this is just bold-faced intimidation. take it out on someone else please.

Stacey - I think its just because after a year of you squealing like a stuck pig because of your perceived poor sales it sounds disingenuous to hear you lavishing praise on IS.

Your opinion might be more well accepted if it didn't keep changing from one moment to the next ....

gostwyck · « **Reply #38 on:** June 04, 2009, 05:55 »

Quote from: stacey_newman on June 03, 2009, 20:29

you don't really have any interest in what I think. so why bother? ^

Here we go again. You keep making statements of 'fact' that are so often completely wide of the mark. Honestly, most of the time I just bite my lip and ignore the innaccuracies of your posts. However on those occasions when I do ask you to qualify your statements then then invariably you refuse to do so and hide behind accusing me (and pretty much anyone else that disagrees with you) of bullying or being nasty to you. I see you tried the same tactic with m@m ^^^.

It is laughable that earlier in this thread you state "... I'm not evangelizing my decision ..." when you appear to be the self-appointed cheerleader for the opt-in brigade. You've already posted half a dozen times in this thread and God knows how many gushing responses on the IS thread too __ way more than anyone else. If that's not 'evangelizing' then I don't know what is. I see you are complaining of being bullied by everyone over there too.

"many of us opting in are getting pretty tired of feeling pressured and borderline bullied by the opt outters via sitemail, email, forum etc. opting in seems to be grounds for lynching right ow and I don't appreciate it."

It seems to me that you always deliberately choose to side with the minority view on any given subject. Of course in doing so it provides you the opportunity to write provocative (and often factually incorrect) posts and then complain bitterly and pretend you're hurt when others respond to them (in just the way you hoped they would).

Anyway, I think you're going to be extremely disappointed when you find out how little your images will actually earn at PC/JIU. Sales are relatively few and the royalties tiny even for StockXpert contributors that have opted-in but IS files are presumably going to be seriously disadvantaged by the CV. The IS CV must surely mean that your images will simply not appear in many relevant searches. For example if you try a search on 'lamb' on PC then you will get 3500 results __ however if you search for 'lambs' then you only get 390 results. Plurals are combined with singular terms within the CV but not at PC/JIU. Same with literally thousands of other terms too. Maybe some of the buyers will work this out and widen their search criteria accordingly but that will also generate less accurate results for them.

m@m · « **Reply #39 on:** June 04, 2009, 09:38 »

It seems to me that you always deliberately choose to side with the minority view on any given subject. Of course in doing so it provides you the opportunity to write provocative (and often factually incorrect) posts and then complain bitterly and pretend you're hurt when others respond to them (in just the way you hoped they would).

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You're 100% correct gostwyck, that seems to be her specialty and trademark...and that's not counting, as michealo mention, her constant poor sale and IS brown nosing BS!!!

stacey_newman · « **Reply #40 on:** June 04, 2009, 09:53 »

I don't even know what to say.

willie · « **Reply #41 on:** June 04, 2009, 11:12 »

Amazing, is this what it's coming down to? Now we see that stacey newman has deleted her account. She cannot speak out without being gang-busted .
Is this mob mentality or what?

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