Author Topic: expiration date on model release? (Read 12978 times)

sunset517 · « **on:** November 16, 2009, 10:51 »

I have a crazy idea... why not add an expiration statement to your model releases such as:

"This authorization EXPIRES twelve months from the date it is signed and specifically authorizes the release of any content created before and after the date signed up until the expiration date."

I used to work for a copy service contracted by many different hospitals. In order to release medical records, you have to sign an authorization to do so. It remains valid for the time indicated on the release. That way, the patient doesn't have to come in and sign a release form every time they are admitted to the hospital. Their doctors can use the authorization they have on file to request copies of the records. Maybe something like this could apply to model releases.

I think I'm going to try it. What do you think?

PixelBitch · « **Reply #1 on:** November 16, 2009, 10:59 »

I think this approach would leave it too open, I wouldn't sign that if I were a model...it's only considerate, and legally better, to have a model sign a release each shoot day...it only takes a couple of minutes and is better protection for all concerned.

Quote from: sunset517 on November 16, 2009, 10:51

I have a crazy idea... why not add an expiration statement to your model releases such as:

"This authorization EXPIRES twelve months from the date it is signed and specifically authorizes the release of any content created before and after the date signed up until the expiration date."

I used to work for a copy service contracted by many different hospitals. In order to release medical records, you have to sign an authorization to do so. It remains valid for the time indicated on the release. That way, the patient doesn't have to come in and sign a release form every time they are admitted to the hospital. Their doctors can use the authorization they have on file to request copies of the records. Maybe something like this could apply to model releases.

I think I'm going to try it. What do you think?

lisafx · « **Reply #2 on:** November 16, 2009, 11:17 »

Not sure I understand the point.

I often upload images from a shoot over 12 mos. from the date it was shot. By making the release expire doesn't that just limit my options?

sunset517 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 16, 2009, 13:32 »

I wouldn't put this on every model release. This idea is more for those people who shoot the same model over and over. For example, I shoot my son and daughter all the time. It is a PITA to keep printing out model releases and making sure the dates match up. I apologize for not explaining myself clearly.

disorderly · « **Reply #4 on:** November 16, 2009, 14:18 »

The problem is that your wording doesn't necessarily mean what you want it to mean. Legalese should only be written by those who understand contract law, as words have specific meaning in legal documents that may be at variance with common use. That said, I have a pro photographer friend who uses an annual release with many of the models he shoots. The release covers all shoots within a specified range of dates, and saves him the trouble of doing paperwork again and again. What the micros, particularly iStock, would think of such a release is something only they could answer.

lisafx · « **Reply #5 on:** November 16, 2009, 14:22 »

Quote from: sunset517 on November 16, 2009, 13:32

I wouldn't put this on every model release. This idea is more for those people who shoot the same model over and over. For example, I shoot my son and daughter all the time. It is a PITA to keep printing out model releases and making sure the dates match up. I apologize for not explaining myself clearly.

Ah. I totally misunderstood. This would be convenient. I shoot my husband and daughter all the time.

dnavarrojr · « **Reply #6 on:** November 19, 2009, 21:37 »

Print the model release with EVERYTHING filled in, except for the signatures. Then photoshop in new dates using the same font.

FD · « **Reply #7 on:** November 19, 2009, 21:51 »

Quote from: dnavarrojr on November 19, 2009, 21:37

Print the model release with EVERYTHING filled in, except for the signatures. Then photoshop in new dates using the same font.

Technically speaking, that's forgery IMHO. In case of litigation, only the paper form counts.

FD · « **Reply #8 on:** November 19, 2009, 22:06 »

Quote from: lisafx on November 16, 2009, 14:22

This would be convenient. I shoot my husband and daughter all the time.

In that case, it's very simple. Fill in all info (photog, model, witness, locations) in the form, just leaving date and signature spaces blank. As photog, you can even pre-sign all printed forms. After every shoot day, just let model and witness sign and fill in date, then shoot the release form and save it in the folder of the shoot's pictures. No mix-up possible then when uploading to iStock, especially if the date is part of the file name (as the Canon D5 does automatically).

For those that don't have a cam that names the files with the date+sequence number (e.g. DSCxxxx), there is a very nifty free program Advanced Renamer that can do all this and even autosequence the files.

lisafx · « **Reply #9 on:** November 20, 2009, 10:16 »

Quote from: FD-amateur on November 19, 2009, 22:06

In that case, it's very simple. Fill in all info (photog, model, witness, locations) in the form, just leaving date and signature spaces blank. As photog, you can even pre-sign all printed forms. After every shoot day, just let model and witness sign and fill in date, then shoot the release form and save it in the folder of the shoot's pictures. No mix-up possible then when uploading to iStock, especially if the date is part of the file name (as the Canon D5 does automatically).

Really excellent suggestion! ^^ Thanks

FD · « **Reply #10 on:** November 20, 2009, 10:34 »

Quote from: lisafx on November 20, 2009, 10:16

Really excellent suggestion! ^^ Thanks

In case you missed a previous post: DOC (changeable MS-Word) version of the generalized Getty release (with more room for signature): download here.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #11 on:** November 20, 2009, 10:40 »

Quote from: sunset517 on November 16, 2009, 13:32

I wouldn't put this on every model release. This idea is more for those people who shoot the same model over and over. For example, I shoot my son and daughter all the time. It is a PITA to keep printing out model releases and making sure the dates match up. I apologize for not explaining myself clearly.

This may work for some of the micros but it won't for IS. Their new rules will allow a maximum of a week for the duration of a single shoot covered by one release, and that only if it's a single "event".

If you have models you shoot over and over, Photoshop's layer comps are great for printing out forms pre-filled in with the right info ready for signatures.

lisafx · « **Reply #12 on:** November 20, 2009, 17:57 »

Quote from: FD-amateur on November 20, 2009, 10:34

In case you missed a previous post: DOC (changeable MS-Word) version of the generalized Getty release (with more room for signature): download here.

No, I hadn't seen that. Very, very useful. Thanks a lot FD!

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