Author Topic: What is best program? (Read 16696 times)

DiogoPinto · « **on:** October 03, 2013, 10:41 »

Hello.
I would know what the best program for do illustration and the easier for learn because I don´t work with no.

Thanks

bunhill · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2013, 10:49 »

Microsoft Paint

DiogoPinto · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2013, 11:06 »

Quote from: bhr on October 03, 2013, 10:49

Microsoft Paint

Really? You can show me please one illustration that you sell very much?

ACS · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2013, 16:04 »

I started with Inkscape, learned the basics of vector by using it then moved to Adobe Illustrator. Inkscape is an open source free vector program to learn but after a certain point you may need to buy AI if you are keen to create vector designs for Microstock agencies. Gradients and transparancies created by IS is not editable in AI and this limits your creativity. I don't have any experience with other programs like Corel Draw or Free Hand.

leaf · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2013, 18:57 »

Quote from: bhr on October 03, 2013, 10:49

Microsoft Paint

Wow, thanks for the link. Impressive work. I just may purchase a print or two!

michaeldb · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2013, 23:51 »

Quote from: ACS on October 03, 2013, 16:04

I started with Inkscape, learned the basics of vector by using it then moved to Adobe Illustrator.

Good advice if you want to do vectors. I learned vectors by using the pen tool in Photoshop, then I moved to Adobe Illustrator.
If you want to do raster 3D illustrations instead of or in addition to vector, you will need a 3D program such as Blender, which is free, or Autodesk 3DS Max or Maya which are very expensive but are the choice of most professionals.

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #6 on:** October 04, 2013, 00:44 »

Surely Freehand!
(But it has been killed by Adobe)

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As said before Inkscape is a free open source software http://inkscape.org and can be a good one for a start.
Then, as Adobe has killed his competitors (buying and burying them), you have few alternatives out of Illustrator (a very powerful gas plant…)

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Somebody told Corel Draw?

pixsol · « **Reply #7 on:** October 23, 2013, 06:19 »

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on October 04, 2013, 00:44

As said before Inkscape is a free open source software http://inkscape.org and can be a good one for a start.
Then, as Adobe has killed his competitors (buying and burying them), you have few alternatives out of Illustrator (a very powerful gas plant…)

Please correct me if I am wrong, but will the EPS output of InkScape be good enough for the EPS10 vector submission standards of SS ?
Thanks !

ACS · « **Reply #8 on:** October 23, 2013, 10:39 »

Quote from: pixsol on October 23, 2013, 06:19

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on October 04, 2013, 00:44
As said before Inkscape is a free open source software http://inkscape.org and can be a good one for a start.
Then, as Adobe has killed his competitors (buying and burying them), you have few alternatives out of Illustrator (a very powerful gas plant…)

Please correct me if I am wrong, but will the EPS output of InkScape be good enough for the EPS10 vector submission standards of SS ?
Thanks !

Eps files created by Inkscape is accepted by SS. I have some files in my SS portfolio created with IS.

But I don't know the eps version of an IS eps. It doesn't ask you the eps version when saving. So it may not be eps10. Nevertheless SS accepts it. It seems SS is not accepting only eps10 ones.

If you use gradients in your eps SS will likely to reject it because of bitmaps.

pixsol · « **Reply #9 on:** October 23, 2013, 11:51 »

Thanks ACS ! I appreciate the reply

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #10 on:** October 24, 2013, 03:44 »

Quote from: pixsol on October 23, 2013, 06:19

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on October 04, 2013, 00:44
As said before Inkscape is a free open source software http://inkscape.org and can be a good one for a start.
Then, as Adobe has killed his competitors (buying and burying them), you have few alternatives out of Illustrator (a very powerful gas plant…)

Please correct me if I am wrong, but will the EPS output of InkScape be good enough for the EPS10 vector submission standards of SS ?
Thanks !

Sorry, I did not see your post before.
Btw ACS answered you

With gradients I think that could be with radial gradients, but not linear ones.

pixsol · « **Reply #11 on:** October 28, 2013, 13:37 »

Thanks Beppe Grillo and ACS - I have a followup question. In InkScape, there is an option to save the EPS file as 'PostScript Level 3' or 'PostScript Level 2'. Which one is better ? Also, do either of them correspond to AI 8 or AI 10 ?
Thanks !

ACS · « **Reply #12 on:** October 28, 2013, 13:52 »

Quote from: pixsol on October 28, 2013, 13:37

Thanks Beppe Grillo and ACS - I have a followup question. In InkScape, there is an option to save the EPS file as 'PostScript Level 3' or 'PostScript Level 2'. Which one is better ? Also, do either of them correspond to AI 8 or AI 10 ?
Thanks !

Not at all.

I don't know actually. I did save the same file in that 2 different versions (Level 2 and 3), opened them in Adobe Illustrator, tested/edited and couldn't find any difference. Both files were equally editable.

This was one of the questions I couldn't find a clear answer in my journey from InkScape to AI.

pixsol · « **Reply #13 on:** October 29, 2013, 01:24 »

Thank you again ACS !

I will use Postscript Level 3 in InkScape. I have read that the EPS output of InkScape is EPS8 of AI. When looking around the web for some information, I read people recommending the following before creating the EPS output:
1. Ungrouping all the objects / paths (as apparently ungrouping is a challenge when the EPS file is opened in Illustrator)
2. Converting all objects to paths

In your experience, is it really necessary ? I have created shapes in my vector using objects and grouping them. Ungrouping them may not be to the liking of the designer who may want to make changes to my vector.

ACS · « **Reply #14 on:** October 30, 2013, 07:50 »

Quote from: pixsol on October 29, 2013, 01:24

Thank you again ACS !

I will use Postscript Level 3 in InkScape. I have read that the EPS output of InkScape is EPS8 of AI. When looking around the web for some information, I read people recommending the following before creating the EPS output:
1. Ungrouping all the objects / paths (as apparently ungrouping is a challenge when the EPS file is opened in Illustrator)
2. Converting all objects to paths

In your experience, is it really necessary ? I have created shapes in my vector using objects and grouping them. Ungrouping them may not be to the liking of the designer who may want to make changes to my vector.

I would live them as group, I don't think that would couse a big problem for AI users.

I too recommend to convert all objects to paths.

pixsol · « **Reply #15 on:** October 30, 2013, 08:15 »

Quote from: ACS on October 30, 2013, 07:50

Quote from: pixsol on October 29, 2013, 01:24
Thank you again ACS !

I will use Postscript Level 3 in InkScape. I have read that the EPS output of InkScape is EPS8 of AI. When looking around the web for some information, I read people recommending the following before creating the EPS output:
1. Ungrouping all the objects / paths (as apparently ungrouping is a challenge when the EPS file is opened in Illustrator)
2. Converting all objects to paths

In your experience, is it really necessary ? I have created shapes in my vector using objects and grouping them. Ungrouping them may not be to the liking of the designer who may want to make changes to my vector.

I would live them as group, I don't think that would couse a big problem for AI users.

I too recommend to convert all objects to paths.

Thanks again ACS. I will leave the grouping but will convert all objects to paths !

CMVA Tutorials · « **Reply #16 on:** November 04, 2013, 11:37 »

At newbielink:http://www.cmvatutorials.com [nonactive] there is an article that might give you some insight as far as vector programs go. In the Articles section it's called "What Software Should You Get To Create Vector Art". There are links to many different options for vector programs as well.

LesPalenik · « **Reply #17 on:** November 23, 2015, 09:31 »

How does Corel Draw compare to Adobe Illustrator for vectors? Is anybody using this program?

graphicsDJ · « **Reply #18 on:** November 25, 2015, 09:05 »

Quote from: LesPalenik on November 23, 2015, 09:31

How does Corel Draw compare to Adobe Illustrator for vectors? Is anybody using this program?

Some people participate in endless debate "Corel Draw vs Adobe Illustrator", wise people use the best of the both worlds. It is much faster and more effective to build main geometry of the vectors in Corel Draw. Adding special effects, working with colors - this is better implemented in Adobe Illustrator. I do main composition framework in CD, then paint and color it in AI. Resulting EPS file will be more accurate if generated in AI.

hartlet12 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 26, 2015, 02:35 »

For me I recommend Adobe Illustrator. If you are already a photoshop user, it is easy to learn Adobe illustrator since most of its commands and environment have similarities.

LesPalenik · « **Reply #20 on:** November 26, 2015, 16:28 »

Quote from: graphicsDJ on November 25, 2015, 09:05

Quote from: LesPalenik on November 23, 2015, 09:31
How does Corel Draw compare to Adobe Illustrator for vectors? Is anybody using this program?

Some people participate in endless debate "Corel Draw vs Adobe Illustrator", wise people use the best of the both worlds. It is much faster and more effective to build main geometry of the vectors in Corel Draw. Adding special effects, working with colors - this is better implemented in Adobe Illustrator. I do main composition framework in CD, then paint and color it in AI. Resulting EPS file will be more accurate if generated in AI.

Thank you for the useful and practical info. How about auto tracing - would you use Live Trace in AI or Corel Draw? Or is the choice dependent also on the type of image?

Mackie · « **Reply #21 on:** November 26, 2015, 18:47 »

Quote from: DiogoPinto on October 03, 2013, 10:41

Hello.
I would know what the best program for do illustration and the easier for learn because I don´t work with no.

Thanks

instead of going for MS Paint or stuff like that, you might want to go for InkScape or similarly versatile (and open) program suites. It is available for all operating systems (as in Windoze, Mac, Linux) and is free as in Free Beer as well as free as in Free Speech.

graphicsDJ · « **Reply #22 on:** November 30, 2015, 08:44 »

Quote from: LesPalenik on November 26, 2015, 16:28

Thank you for the useful and practical info. How about auto tracing - would you use Live Trace in AI or Corel Draw? Or is the choice dependent also on the type of image?

I'm very picky and neither program fully satisfies me in terms of tracing. Simple things I do in Corel. When I need to do a complex trace - I try both with different settings. And then I pick the best trace.

john_woodcock · « **Reply #23 on:** November 30, 2015, 11:33 »

There is also Affinity Designer, only Mac at the moment, but has won awards and garnered good reviews all round. I bought it when it first launched but haven't had time to give it a proper look yet. https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/

Metsafile · « **Reply #24 on:** December 01, 2015, 02:36 »

Quote from: john_woodcock on November 30, 2015, 11:33

There is also Affinity Designer, only Mac at the moment, but has won wards and garnered good reviews all round. I bought it when it first launched but haven't had time to give it a proper look yet. https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/

Thanks for the information, looks like promising alternative to a___e.

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