Author Topic: Yuri Arcurs First Public Statement (Read 165783 times)

Mellimage · « **Reply #450 on:** July 29, 2013, 10:20 »

Quote from: fritz on July 29, 2013, 10:00

I can't believe, 18 pages and counting and the topic is "Yuri Arcurs First Public Statement" SO WHAT. I can understand if the topic was Anton Corbijn's or Jan Saudek's photography but this is ridiculous. Honestly!

while the title may suggest that this is all about Y. - it is not - there are some interesting reads in the whole thread - i.e. on behaving in planes and the permission to walk around.

Also, to expect a discussion on Corbijn and Saudek at this forum which is primarily on microstock photography (as the name suggests) is a bit misplaced (though the work of both are well worth discussing...).

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #451 on:** July 29, 2013, 10:30 »

Quote from: Mellimage on July 29, 2013, 10:20

Quote from: fritz on July 29, 2013, 10:00
I can't believe, 18 pages and counting and the topic is "Yuri Arcurs First Public Statement" SO WHAT. I can understand if the topic was Anton Corbijn's or Jan Saudek's photography but this is ridiculous. Honestly!

while the title may suggest that this is all about Y. - it is not - there are some interesting reads in the whole thread - i.e. on behaving in planes and the permission to walk around.

And please don't forget the sheep. They've been puzzling me. it's a long time since I kept sheep but I have a feeling they are Texels. Is that right?

fritz · « **Reply #452 on:** July 29, 2013, 10:33 »

Quote from: Mellimage on July 29, 2013, 10:20

Quote from: fritz on July 29, 2013, 10:00
I can't believe, 18 pages and counting and the topic is "Yuri Arcurs First Public Statement" SO WHAT. I can understand if the topic was Anton Corbijn's or Jan Saudek's photography but this is ridiculous. Honestly!

while the title may suggest that this is all about Y. - it is not - there are some interesting reads in the whole thread - i.e. on behaving in planes and the permission to walk around.

Also, to expect a discussion on Corbijn and Saudek at this forum which is primarily on microstock photography (as the name suggests) is a bit misplaced (though the work of both are well worth discussing...).

You miss the point but nevermind..... Enjoy the topic

I have a smarter job to do.

Darren Baker · « **Reply #453 on:** July 29, 2013, 18:34 »

I am reminded of a certain Mr Bruce J Ismay.

He persuaded thousands of people that his ship was a great ship, a ship that was changing the way people would travel, a ship of the future, unsinkable.

Many, many people listened to him and bought tickets to sail on his ship.

During the voyage the ship got into trouble and started to sink, Mr Ismay got off the ship that he said was great, the ship of the future, the ship that was unsinkable, and headed over to another ship, a ship of the type he had previously criticised and said was a ship of the past.

Many of the other people he had persuaded to get on his ship were unable to leave like he had and were left to their fate.

When he arrived at the other ship the people in charge gave him opiates so that he didn't have to face up to the reality of the situation, he was reviled (I do mean reviled) as a coward for the rest of his life and his reputation never recovered.

Anyway, I must go I have some deck chairs to arrange, a band is playing and I believe there may even be some ice for my gin and tonic.

Xanox · « **Reply #454 on:** July 30, 2013, 05:10 »

Yuri featured on PetaPixel as "microstock King" :

http://petapixel.com/2013/07/26/microstock-king-yuri-arcurs-says-mobile-is-the-next-big-disrupter/

Yuri_Arcurs · « **Reply #455 on:** July 30, 2013, 13:48 »

I have spent the last 30min reading through this thread. Hmm...
It seems this post has become more about mocking me for taking the right business decisions and desperately trying to hold on to ones own wrong ones. When arguments stop making sense, mocking helpfully steps in.

Have a good one.
Y

Ron · « **Reply #456 on:** July 30, 2013, 13:53 »

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on July 30, 2013, 13:48

I have spent the last 30min reading through this thread. Hmm...
It seems this post has become more about mocking me for taking the right business decisions and desperately trying to hold on to ones own wrong ones. When arguments stop making sense, mocking helpfully steps in.

Have a good one.
Y

Quoting this and putting this link in my agenda at exactly one year from now. Then we know.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #457 on:** July 30, 2013, 14:15 »

Yes time will tell

sharpshot · « **Reply #458 on:** July 30, 2013, 14:21 »

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on July 30, 2013, 13:48

I have spent the last 30min reading through this thread. Hmm...
It seems this post has become more about mocking me for taking the right business decisions and desperately trying to hold on to ones own wrong ones. When arguments stop making sense, mocking helpfully steps in.

Have a good one.
Y

You don't seem to mind doing a bit of mocking. Even in this post complaining about others doing it, you appear to be mocking people that haven't followed you in to exclusivity. So I have no sympathy.

EmberMike · « **Reply #459 on:** July 30, 2013, 14:23 »

Quote from: sharpshot on July 30, 2013, 14:21

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on July 30, 2013, 13:48
I have spent the last 30min reading through this thread. Hmm...
It seems this post has become more about mocking me for taking the right business decisions and desperately trying to hold on to ones own wrong ones. When arguments stop making sense, mocking helpfully steps in.
You don't seem to mind doing a bit of mocking. Even in this post complaining about others doing it, you appear to be mocking people that haven't followed you in to exclusivity. So I have no sympathy.

Agreed. Yuri, you don't even notice the mocking tone you've taken with all of us. Frankly if you feel like you're on the receiving end of undue criticism, it is only because that's what you put out there as well.

I feel like this latest post is more of the same from you. You don't even see the mockery in suggesting that you made the right choice and everyone else is wrong. I hope it's just a matter of you being far more tactful with a camera in your hands than a keyboard.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #460 on:** July 30, 2013, 14:27 »

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on July 30, 2013, 13:48

I have spent the last 30min reading through this thread. Hmm...
It seems this post has become more about mocking me for taking the right business decisions and desperately trying to hold on to ones own wrong ones. When arguments stop making sense, mocking helpfully steps in.

Have a good one.
Y

This post just leaves me gobsmacked. You're hurt and can't recognise yourself when you are accused of arrogance and narcissism. Such things are cruel parodies of you. But then you write this.
OK, whatever.

shotupdave · « **Reply #461 on:** July 30, 2013, 14:32 »

Quote from: Yuri_Arcurs on July 30, 2013, 13:48

I have spent the last 30min reading through this thread. Hmm...
It seems this post has become more about mocking me for taking the right business decisions and desperately trying to hold on to ones own wrong ones. When arguments stop making sense, mocking helpfully steps in.

Have a good one.
Y

when arrogance and self promotion is so blatant one invites criticism. And when did you become the king of business?

ShadySue · « **Reply #462 on:** July 30, 2013, 14:34 »

Yuri - why did you post?

Given all the lies about your photos being exclusively at iStock, you must understand the cynicism.

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #463 on:** July 30, 2013, 14:44 »

"An extraordinary amount of arrogance is present in any claim of having been the first in inventing something"
[Benoit Mandelbrot]

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #464 on:** July 30, 2013, 15:24 »

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on July 30, 2013, 14:44

"An extraordinary amount of arrogance is present in any claim of having been the first in inventing something"
[Benoit Mandelbrot]

But, Benoit, how could anybody ever claim to be second in inventing something?

shotupdave · « **Reply #465 on:** July 30, 2013, 15:34 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 30, 2013, 15:24

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on July 30, 2013, 14:44
"An extraordinary amount of arrogance is present in any claim of having been the first in inventing something"
[Benoit Mandelbrot]
But, Benoit, how could anybody ever claim to be second in inventing something?

Ask edison about that

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #466 on:** July 30, 2013, 15:36 »

Quote from: shotupdave on July 30, 2013, 15:34

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 30, 2013, 15:24
Quote from: Beppe Grillo on July 30, 2013, 14:44
"An extraordinary amount of arrogance is present in any claim of having been the first in inventing something"
[Benoit Mandelbrot]
But, Benoit, how could anybody ever claim to be second in inventing something?

Ask edison about that

LOL ... but I don't think he said he was second, did he?

(And I think I've sussed the sheep - they're Merinos, aren't they?)

sharpshot · « **Reply #467 on:** July 30, 2013, 17:41 »

I can't help but think that with Yuri's background in psychology, he's playing a game with us here. This forum has an anti Getty/istock bias and Yuri going exclusive was never going to make him more popular. Then he invests in a site that could potentially damage microstock. So now he can play games, as he's no longer the independent microstockers hero. I find it hard to believe he wouldn't of been aware of the reaction he would get to his statement and some of his recent posts here.

Leo Blanchette · « **Reply #468 on:** July 30, 2013, 19:56 »

gbalex · « **Reply #469 on:** July 30, 2013, 21:06 »

Good post with thought behind it Leo... so different than the non stop micro background buzz.

Who can blame Jacob for parking his images where he feels they will hold their value best. He worked hard and non stop to build his brand. It is pretty clear that the sites have no interest in protecting the value of our assets. In their race for market share, they are perfectly willing to drive the value of our hard work down to quickly fill their pockets. They do not want to wait the 20 or 50 years that companies did in the past to build net worth. They are perfectly willing to take it out of our own hides in the short term.

I think people are so quick to find fault with Yuri that they take his comment's out of context. For instance I suspect that this comment was NOT an insult to other microstockers but a reference to his own decisions over the last few years. "and desperately trying to hold on to ones own wrong ones"

The marketing hype does get old and is offensive considering the state of the market. In any case I am finding the non stop snooping into other peoples ports and business counter productive. Minding everyone else's business has become a trend here and on other micro sites. The fork in the road is getting closer and we should be taking Leo's and Jacob's lead of focusing on our backup plan; what ever we individually decide that should be.

Leo Blanchette · « **Reply #470 on:** July 30, 2013, 21:24 »

Xanox · « **Reply #471 on:** July 30, 2013, 21:55 »

c'mon guys, Yuri's press release if of course a funny PR stunt but i've seen a lot worse in other industries.

i don't have the feeling Yuri reached the point where he's believing his own sh-it, he's just having a laugh on micro agencies and SS in particular, guess he still has a chip on the shoulder with them ?

you're all angry because Yuri was the living proof it was possible to make a living with microstock alone and now you're shocked and despaired to be told by the king himself that you better go back to macro agencies as micro is financially unsustainable as it is today.

so you feel betrayed and rejected by the guy you idolized for so long but seriously i can't see any mind control tricks in his statements, just common marketing BS you can read in any other press release, i think he was just in a happy mood drinking a couple beers and wanting to have fun on you guys.

Leo Blanchette · « **Reply #472 on:** July 30, 2013, 22:05 »

Seriously I didn't know Yuri except for it was a cool keywording tool...until recently.

I find it interesting because when he posts a thread it causes a nuclear explosion, and I just want to see whats going on.

But yeah, what you said. (edit %80 or so

) I don't feel betrayed just tired and overworked shoveling images into a black hole trying to work faster than its rate of collapse.

Beppe Grillo · « **Reply #473 on:** July 31, 2013, 00:58 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on July 30, 2013, 15:24

Quote from: Beppe Grillo on July 30, 2013, 14:44
"An extraordinary amount of arrogance is present in any claim of having been the first in inventing something"
[Benoit Mandelbrot]
But, Benoit, how could anybody ever claim to be second in inventing something?

Bien vu!

Ron · « **Reply #474 on:** July 31, 2013, 02:53 »

I'll say it again, factories are running into problems now, not the individual. Seriously, I wish everyone would jump ship. And then I will be laughing all the way to the bank.

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Author Topic: Yuri Arcurs First Public Statement (Read 165783 times)

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shotupdave

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