Author Topic: This month's sales (Read 138202 times)

Milleflore · « **Reply #125 on:** November 15, 2021, 15:56 »

Quote from: Firn on November 12, 2021, 06:04

Thank you very much for taking all this effort. I am not taking it as being negative. I always welcome advice when it's constructive and actually gives me an idea of what to improve.
I have another one with that costume that should have more than enough copy space, as it's isolated:
https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/french-buldog-dog-red-devil-halloween-1792920889
But I could not say one sells more than the other. But maybe isolated images is a whole other topic altogether. I don't know.

I just wanted to write how my best selling dog photo on SS and Adobe (two completely dfferent photos) don't have proper copy space at all and still sell well, but actually I was wrong. I looked through my folders where I collect screenshot of all online uses I can find and even though these images don't have much copy space in many cases the people buying them still added text to the empty areas, even though there was't much space available. You are definitly right with the copy space being something that buyers are looking for. As said, I thought I often tried to implement copy space, but it looks like I have to pay more attention to this. Thank you very much.

Look what I saw on Pinterest, Firn - another one to add to your online uses!

https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/623748617151939273/

Firn · « **Reply #126 on:** November 15, 2021, 16:01 »

Quote from: Annie on November 15, 2021, 15:56

Look what I saw on Pinterest, Firn - another one to add to your online uses!

https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/623748617151939273/

Thank you!

Roscoe · « **Reply #127 on:** November 16, 2021, 03:30 »

Quote from: thijsdegraaf on November 15, 2021, 11:46

I didn't know that. Thanks Pete. Doesn't matter, because it takes a while before I reach 0.36. Reminds me of the good old days of Shutterstock.
I'll be glad when I reach 100, because the days are short now in the Netherlands and mostly cloudy like today.
Then I have enough time to upload photos on A.S.
I have no patience for television.

Just a small tip: you can submit your editorial content to Adobe via Wirestock.
For some weird reason Adobe doesn't seem to accept Illustrative Editorial anymore from Wirestock, but just regular editorial shouldn't be a problem.
You can upload your illustrative editorial content on your personal account later, when you reach the downloads threshold.

Right about television by the way. Geen bal op de TV! ;-)

Suspect · « **Reply #128 on:** November 16, 2021, 04:44 »

Quote from: Roscoe on November 16, 2021, 03:30

Quote from: thijsdegraaf on November 15, 2021, 11:46
I didn't know that. Thanks Pete. Doesn't matter, because it takes a while before I reach 0.36. Reminds me of the good old days of Shutterstock.
I'll be glad when I reach 100, because the days are short now in the Netherlands and mostly cloudy like today.
Then I have enough time to upload photos on A.S.
I have no patience for television.

Just a small tip: you can submit your editorial content to Adobe via Wirestock.
For some weird reason Adobe doesn't seem to accept Illustrative Editorial anymore from Wirestock, but just regular editorial shouldn't be a problem.
You can upload your illustrative editorial content on your personal account later, when you reach the downloads threshold.

Right about television by the way. Geen bal op de TV! ;-)

My experience of Adobe editorial via Wirestock is different to yours.
My regular editorial are rejected when they have people in them but my illustrative are accepted.
By-the-way, on the subject of TV, I don't watch it either

Roscoe · « **Reply #129 on:** November 16, 2021, 07:07 »

Quote from: DOP on November 16, 2021, 04:44

My experience of Adobe editorial via Wirestock is different to yours.
My regular editorial are rejected when they have people in them but my illustrative are accepted.
By-the-way, on the subject of TV, I don't watch it either

Strange! My illustrative editorials to Adobe via Wirestock are rejected due to ... being illustrative editorial! (Illustrative Editorial Issue)
No harm done, I just submit them via my personal account on Adobe, with all of them being accepted.
Weird, but whatever.

Regarding editorial images with clearly recognizable people: they are indeed also rejected by Adobe via Wirestock.
I don't know exactly why, because other agencies seem to accept them.
Other editorial images to Adobe via Wirestock are accepted without too much hassle, and they are generating sales.
They are in fact my main source of income on Wirestock, as I still submit a lot of my other content via my personal accounts.
Still waiting for my first direct sale on Wirestock, or Extra Channels bucks.

Milleflore · « **Reply #130 on:** November 17, 2021, 18:32 »

Quote from: Firn on November 15, 2021, 16:01

Quote from: Annie on November 15, 2021, 15:56

Look what I saw on Pinterest, Firn - another one to add to your online uses!

https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/623748617151939273/

Thank you!

Seeing there is a bit of interest in our conversation here, Firn, I thought of a couple more things to add that may help.

When you said how you went to all that trouble with the graveyard and Halloween shoot, and it didnt pay off, I really felt for you. Wasting a big shoot and lots of effort can be very disheartening. To avoid that, making keywords work for you, and how a bit of research prior to the shoot may be able to boost sales.

For example, with your Easter puppy - the photo that I really love - if you looked at SS's dropdown menu when you type in Easter, you will get the top 10 or so most searched keywords by buyers. In this case, if you put a small easter basket with easter eggs next to the puppy, you would have opened the photo up to more top 10 keywords: Easter Eggs, Chocolate, Easter Basket, and Easter Egg Hunt. That's the thing you need to aim for.

The other thing I usually do is look at what's on the top page of your particular search on both Adobe and SS. And I also look at what's popular on social media. BTW, that's how I ended up seeing your Halloween Devil pic on Pinterest. After doing that search, the next day Pinterest's algorithm came up with a whole lot of other holiday doggy pics - and lo and behold - there was yours!

For this exercise, I looked at 'Christmas Dog Photography' on Pinterest, and the top pages for "Christmas Dog" on AS & SS. You immediately get an idea of what's popular. Don't copy any of the photos of course - but rather look at the elements of those pics that you can incorporate into your shots. Things like copy space, isolated on white, isolated on color backdrops, full frame decorated pics and what's great about them, sizes, ratios (banners vs 3:2), emotions (cuteness, humour, etc). These are the things that buyers like and/or need.

For example, this photo was popular on both sites: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/new-year-christmas-concept-dog-wearing-1531627820
Its different. The color is a bit unusual but eye-catching, lots of copy space of course. Unique and trendy way of cropping, large 6k pixels, very cute puppy face. Great color coordination - it looks like they color-matched the backdrop with the green in the reindeer ears. Thats the reason, IMO, why the colors in that photo worked. Overall its a very unique and eye-catching photo.

Now of course, people shouldn't rush out and copy that. As I said - its already been done so don't bother. Think of something else that incorporates all the reasons why that is a good shot. Number one reason, IMO, is that its unquie.

And guess what else I saw - yep! You got one of your pics on Page 1 of Christmas Dog search. What to go! Yeah!! Well done.

Anyway, in summary, a bit of planning like that before a shoot can help you compose and know the shots you need beforehand. A little bit of planning and research goes a long way in my books.

I hope that helps.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #131 on:** November 18, 2021, 02:15 »

Thank you Annie, these are really very valuable tips

pkphotos · « **Reply #132 on:** November 18, 2021, 02:42 »

stock is dead, crypto is the only way forward

CSImages · « **Reply #133 on:** November 18, 2021, 05:09 »

Quote from: Annie on November 15, 2021, 15:56

Quote from: Firn on November 12, 2021, 06:04

Thank you very much for taking all this effort. I am not taking it as being negative. I always welcome advice when it's constructive and actually gives me an idea of what to improve.
I have another one with that costume that should have more than enough copy space, as it's isolated:
https://www.shutterstock.com/de/image-photo/french-buldog-dog-red-devil-halloween-1792920889
But I could not say one sells more than the other. But maybe isolated images is a whole other topic altogether. I don't know.

I just wanted to write how my best selling dog photo on SS and Adobe (two completely dfferent photos) don't have proper copy space at all and still sell well, but actually I was wrong. I looked through my folders where I collect screenshot of all online uses I can find and even though these images don't have much copy space in many cases the people buying them still added text to the empty areas, even though there was't much space available. You are definitly right with the copy space being something that buyers are looking for. As said, I thought I often tried to implement copy space, but it looks like I have to pay more attention to this. Thank you very much.

Look what I saw on Pinterest, Firn - another one to add to your online uses!

https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/623748617151939273/

Funny Stuff !!

Wilm · « **Reply #134 on:** November 18, 2021, 05:33 »

There was a desire for something positive here in the forum. So I'm going to contribute something to that.

Nearly 600 downloads so far. Obviously this November will become better than November 2019 and almost the same as November 2020 - at least concerning downloads. This is a positive result for me personally because I have uploaded very little in the recent past. I'm surprised this hasn't had a negative impact on download numbers. However, the fact that it was worse in 2019 may also have been due to the initial effects of Corona - the economy was pretty much paralyzed then - obviously more than at the moment.

Also, I can post a round number on shutterstock from this morning. That's significantly less than Annie and others have, but I'm still happy.

Suspect · « **Reply #135 on:** November 18, 2021, 05:54 »

Congratulations Wilm.
74K. Wow.
Almost as many as me ..

Wilm · « **Reply #136 on:** November 18, 2021, 16:16 »

Quote from: DOP on November 18, 2021, 05:54

Congratulations Wilm.
74K. Wow.
Almost as many as me ..

Hi Debbie,

I figured you'd hit the six-figure downloads long ago. But you are always so modest - so I was not sure.

Suspect · « **Reply #137 on:** November 18, 2021, 16:34 »

Quote from: Wilm on November 18, 2021, 16:16

Quote from: DOP on November 18, 2021, 05:54
Congratulations Wilm.
74K. Wow.
Almost as many as me ..

Hi Debbie,

I figured you'd hit the six-figure downloads long ago. But you are always so modest - so I was not sure.

I wish...

And you got all those 'teensy weensy' downloads with your 'teensy weensy' port Wilm.

You clearly went wrong there and should have uploaded many thousands more

whosvegas · « **Reply #138 on:** November 19, 2021, 06:59 »

Today for the first time, i had 10 downloads on Shutterstock in one day, all < $0,15

Should i be happy?

thijsdegraaf · « **Reply #139 on:** November 19, 2021, 07:27 »

Quote from: whosvegas on November 19, 2021, 06:59

Today for the first time, i had 10 downloads on Shutterstock in one day, all < $0,15

Should i be happy?

At the beginning of the year you should be happy about it, because then you are a level higher earlier. Now it doesn't matter much.
Maybe because your photos are increasing in ranking?

Roscoe · « **Reply #140 on:** November 19, 2021, 10:36 »

Quote from: whosvegas on November 19, 2021, 06:59

Today for the first time, i had 10 downloads on Shutterstock in one day, all < $0,15

Should i be happy?

Sounds like mixed feelings.

I try to determine how I feel about it by looking at my aggregated earnings across all the agencies I contribute to over a bigger period of time.

Microstock can be very fluctuative. After two and a half years of contributing to microstock agencies, I learned that a run of bad days, weeks or even months can be compensated by good ones. Or a temporarily struggling agency can be compensated by an agency that's on a roll.

Spread your eggs, don't let a stubbornly struggling chicken ruin your day and look at how the bigger picture looks for you.
Then make up your feelings

For Real · « **Reply #141 on:** November 19, 2021, 10:42 »

Quote from: whosvegas on November 19, 2021, 06:59

Today for the first time, i had 10 downloads on Shutterstock in one day, all < $0,15

Should i be happy?

Yes, It's a start that could lead to much more. I remember doing a dance in the house on my first sale in 2011

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #142 on:** November 19, 2021, 15:42 »

Quote from: thijsdegraaf on November 19, 2021, 07:27

Quote from: whosvegas on November 19, 2021, 06:59
Today for the first time, i had 10 downloads on Shutterstock in one day, all < $0,15

Should i be happy?

At the beginning of the year you should be happy about it, because then you are a level higher earlier. Now it doesn't matter much.
Maybe because your photos are increasing in ranking?

When I think about this, I can't really be happy when I get a 17c download, because of my higher level, instead of a 10c download. I keep remembering when I was new and 25c was the lowest, crummiest commission, and how I moved up and up. Now we don't just have levels, that are almost irrelevant, we get reset every January.

Rock and a hard place. Give up and keep taking the money or stand up and get nothing?

Wilm · « **Reply #143 on:** November 19, 2021, 16:07 »

Quote from: DOP on November 18, 2021, 16:34

You clearly went wrong there and should have uploaded many thousands more

In my next life I will try, Deb.

Wilm · « **Reply #144 on:** November 19, 2021, 16:11 »

Quote from: whosvegas on November 19, 2021, 06:59

Today for the first time, i had 10 downloads on Shutterstock in one day, all < $0,15

Should i be happy?

Congrats! And yes, you should be happy if it was the first time from my Point of view. No matter what it brought in.

Suspect · « **Reply #145 on:** November 19, 2021, 16:32 »

Quote from: Wilm on November 19, 2021, 16:07

Quote from: DOP on November 18, 2021, 16:34

You clearly went wrong there and should have uploaded many thousands more

In my next life I will try, Deb.

I was being ironic Wilm.
You are a prime example where quality over quantity works.
I could probably have uploaded tens of thousands more images than you and have sold a fraction of what you have sold.

Pacesetter · « **Reply #146 on:** November 19, 2021, 17:48 »

iStock / Getty was good for me in October as the details have just emerged. In fact my BME since joining the agency, though the royalties are pretty low (19% for images and video combined). Videos were the big earner here. Shutterstock is powering on this month with some pretty good video sales and even a couple of good image sales. Adobe's free image giveaway is clearly working very well, shame it is killing sales this month. Pond5 barely has a pulse. Overall though pretty good as this is all helpful while I'm going through a household move interstate.

Wilm · « **Reply #147 on:** November 19, 2021, 18:06 »

Quote from: DOP on November 19, 2021, 16:32

Quote from: Wilm on November 19, 2021, 16:07
Quote from: DOP on November 18, 2021, 16:34

You clearly went wrong there and should have uploaded many thousands more

In my next life I will try, Deb.

I was being ironic Wilm.
You are a prime example where quality over quantity works.
I could probably have uploaded tens of thousands more images than you and have sold a fraction of what you have sold.

I know, Debbie. We've known each other long enough for that. And thank you - again - for your kind words.

If I was more motivated, I would have uploaded more pictures. But of course we are not talking about thousands and not hundreds. In fact, I would pretty much know what I would produce. But right now, I just don't have the drive. Maybe it will come again.

Wilm · « **Reply #148 on:** November 19, 2021, 18:12 »

Quote from: Pacesetter on November 19, 2021, 17:48

Adobe's free image giveaway is clearly working very well, shame it is killing sales this month.

I did my personal math and came to the conclusion that Adobe's free selection is a losing proposition. It flushes money into the cash once and then brings losses for the remaining 11 months. That is the reason why I do not participate.

In addition, I firmly believe that the campaign produces false impulses that, on balance, harm the entire industry.

Milleflore · « **Reply #149 on:** November 19, 2021, 19:06 »

My SS revenue this month has finally taken over AS. It took a little longer this November, but all I needed was a few high large commissions/sales and SS once again has taken the lead.

You take the good with the bad with SS, but in the long run SS has always been the best performer for me.

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