Author Topic: The Future Big 5 (Read 20490 times)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #50 on:** July 29, 2013, 10:39 »

Quote from: EmberMike on July 29, 2013, 10:29

Quote from: luissantos84 on July 29, 2013, 10:21
totally agree, not even contributing and saying which agency is best/worst makes no sense, just mixes things up in a wrong way

Why? You don't need to be a contributor at SS to know that they'll still likely be top 5 in a few years.

oh Mike come on, do you talk about things you never heard about or don't have any experience? Dan can continue reporting his sales but this one is just ridiculous

cthoman · « **Reply #51 on:** July 29, 2013, 10:49 »

Quote from: EmberMike on July 29, 2013, 10:29

Quote from: luissantos84 on July 29, 2013, 10:21
totally agree, not even contributing and saying which agency is best/worst makes no sense, just mixes things up in a wrong way

Why? You don't need to be a contributor at SS to know that they'll still likely be top 5 in a few years.

I totally agree. I'm not sure if I'll a contributor there in 5 years, but I'm sure they'll still be most people's number one. I can't just look at it from my earnings. It's much more objective to look at it from how the majority are doing.

Ron · « **Reply #52 on:** July 29, 2013, 10:54 »

Its about profitability, I cant say ANYTHING about Getty, because I am not there, I have no clue. How am I supposed to comment on profitability to me, as I am not making any profits from them?

cthoman · « **Reply #53 on:** July 29, 2013, 11:10 »

Quote from: Ron on July 29, 2013, 10:54

Its about profitability, I cant say ANYTHING about Getty, because I am not there, I have no clue. How am I supposed to comment on profitability to me, as I am not making any profits from them?

People don't really talk much about Getty here though. They talk a lot about the micro sites though, so it isn't that far fetched to get a general idea of what is happening at these sites based on other contributors' posts.

Ron · « **Reply #54 on:** July 29, 2013, 11:17 »

For real? Are we now making guesses on an agency profitability or portfolio profitability based on other peoples comments on MSG?

Hahahahaha, I cant take this serious any longer. You have fun guys, the sandbox is all yours.

ShadySue · « **Reply #55 on:** July 29, 2013, 11:43 »

Quote from: Ron on July 29, 2013, 09:44

Quote from: ShadySue on July 29, 2013, 09:36
The OP (2007!) was about which agency would be the most profitable, which almost certainly isn't the same as what would be most profitable for the contributor.
How can you make any guess about the profitability of an agency you know nothing about, havent submitted to, are not submitting to, etc.??

Could be, for example, an industry analyst, who is at least as likely to be right (or wrong) as any of us are.

EmberMike · « **Reply #56 on:** July 29, 2013, 11:47 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on July 29, 2013, 10:39

Quote from: EmberMike on July 29, 2013, 10:29
Why? You don't need to be a contributor at SS to know that they'll still likely be top 5 in a few years.

oh Mike come on, do you talk about things you never heard about or don't have any experience? Dan can continue reporting his sales but this one is just ridiculous

Lack of experience with a company doesn't mean that someone can't have an opinion about the company. That's how we all decide which new companies to join, isn't it? We do our research, ask questions, and decide which companies to work with. I've passed on invites from some new companies that I don't think are going anywhere. Just because I haven't participated in those companies doesn't mean that I can't have an opinion about their future prospects.

It works the same for established companies. Some people have past experiences with these companies and are no longer contributors. Some people might have never sold an image with a company but they may still have some insight into how that company is doing, where they are going, etc.

And when we're talking about SS, a public company, it's even easier to form an opinion when we all have access to detailed reports and financial data.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #57 on:** July 29, 2013, 11:54 »

Quote from: Ron on July 29, 2013, 11:17

For real? Are we now making guesses on an agency profitability or portfolio profitability based on other peoples comments on MSG?

Hahahahaha, I cant take this serious any longer. You have fun guys, the sandbox is all yours.

and we are getting minus for saying the obvious, what a joke!

my prediction is that Zoonar, FeaturePics, MostPhotos, photaki and photokore will be the future top 5

cthoman · « **Reply #58 on:** July 29, 2013, 11:59 »

Quote from: EmberMike on July 29, 2013, 11:47

Lack of experience with a company doesn't mean that someone can't have an opinion about the company. That's how we all decide which new companies to join, isn't it? We do our research, ask questions, and decide which companies to work with. I've passed on invites from some new companies that I don't think are going anywhere. Just because I haven't participated in those companies doesn't mean that I can't have an opinion about their future prospects.

It works the same for established companies. Some people have past experiences with these companies and are no longer contributors. Some people might have never sold an image with a company but they may still have some insight into how that company is doing, where they are going, etc.

And when we're talking about SS, a public company, it's even easier to form an opinion when we all have access to detailed reports and financial data.

I kind of thought that was the whole point of MSG. It's to get news and information about sites from your peers.

That and being a social butterfly.

cthoman · « **Reply #59 on:** July 29, 2013, 12:03 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on July 29, 2013, 11:54

and we are getting minus for saying the obvious, what a joke!

my prediction is that Zoonar, FeaturePics, MostPhotos, photaki and photokore will be the future top 5

LOL. I don't think I'd put money on that. I hardly ever use the minus, so it wasn't me.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #60 on:** July 29, 2013, 12:06 »

Quote from: cthoman on July 29, 2013, 12:03

Quote from: luissantos84 on July 29, 2013, 11:54
and we are getting minus for saying the obvious, what a joke!

my prediction is that Zoonar, FeaturePics, MostPhotos, photaki and photokore will be the future top 5

LOL. I don't think I'd put money on that. I hardly ever use the minus, so it wasn't me.

oh and Crestock as well

disorderly · « **Reply #61 on:** July 29, 2013, 12:14 »

We all have a right to an informed opinion, as Harlan Ellison once put it. Whether we submit to a particular agency or not, we have access to enough information about their practices and their results to draw conclusions. Anyone who does the homework should be able to comment and, if their conclusions make sense, should be respected.

On the other hand, extrapolating minimal experience and drawing conclusions from that is generally a bad idea. I will state my results from various agencies and believe they are indicative of others with relatively large portfolios of similar quality who also submit many similar images from a single shoot, for example to explain why I do pretty well at SS and 123RF, where similars often sell but not nearly so well at DT, where until recently they rejected such images out of hand. But my views are based on getting many sales a month, not single digits. Someone with a handful of images and a small number of sales has little understanding of how their images will do as their portfolio grows. Sales are variable enough that a small seller may go days without a sale. If I go days without one, I can say with confidence that something is wrong at the agency. I may still be wrong, but at least I have the data to back up my theory.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #62 on:** July 31, 2013, 12:41 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on July 29, 2013, 11:54

my prediction is that Zoonar, FeaturePics, MostPhotos, photaki and photokore will be the future top 5

Sorry to disagree. These are the top five of the future:

LuckyOliver.com,
StockXpert.com,
SnapVillage.com,
Albumo.com,
Zymmetrical.com

I still can't believe all the people who joined El Bummo for the bribe payments.