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« on: June 24, 2008, 10:40 »
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Just wondering who has had the opportunity to submit to Photoshelter, if anyone has, and their opinions on it.  Would like to know the requirements for submission as well before I start to delve further into this particular site

Thanks in advance,

Joseph


« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2008, 11:25 »
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Although they have a fairly easy acceptance policy, this is offset by their tedious keywording procedure which is more cumbersome than that of IS. Your images will get plenty of views, but sales are still very sparse.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2008, 12:02 by sharply_done »

« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2008, 11:34 »
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Clean images technically, The big killer there is noise. Slice of life images play well there especially if they are geared for contemporary - they seem to like rock band stuff a lot. No micro images policy.

I think on the first submission you need to submit 4 or 5. They don't play the Shutterstock game though. In one case that I know of, they bounced two and just told the submitter to send 2 more.

Again at PSC, there is no telling what they will accept or reject on any given day. A lot of the girlies there whine about flowers being rejected - yet all of mine are accepted and a lot were editor's choices. Just don;t send 4 on your first submission - show a variety of your best work.

See their Blog for Buyer Needs article, and browse the collection on subjects you like to shoot.


cphoto

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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2008, 11:47 »
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I have 22 images on line right now with them and already got one sale for $290.

They do reject sometime pictures that would have been accepted with micros;  I guess they are looking for some different content.

The editor choice concept seems to be really random:  one of my award winning picture did not get it, but some "OK" pictures got it.

Other than that it's a great site, and yes entering keywords is tedious, but in the end that greatly improves the search and should make buyers very happy - keyword spam greatly reduced -

« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2008, 14:08 »
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I have 31 online for about 3 weeks, no sales yet, 6 rejections no reason given but I think it was sets of 3 reduced to 2 that was from 37 uploaded, so it's not that bad, I also use genuine fractals as I resize for Alamy it looks like the same images can go to PhotoShelter if I want.

The site seems to be moving in the right direction, they have a comment on "Photography as Art", but I think the buyers will move them closer to other macro stock sites, the collection has a NY and USA theame which makes it a bit harder if you are in the UK and shoot places and people.

But unless you are prepared to upload and wait it may be to slow for some people, views are not just buyer views which can distort you statistics if you or other photographers view your images.

They also have a paid thing called Personal Archive which I have subscribed to, there I can upload what I want with no reviewers and set my own restrictions and prices RM, RF and Mechandising, MR's etc:, this can also be searched by PhotoShelter buyers, linked from your own website, or you can drive your own traffic there, they handle the licence, downloading and the funds go to your PayPal, they charge 10% of any transaction, and you do not get hit for witholding tax, the buyer has to register with PhotoShelter.

I have not setup the skinning or linking yet but feel free to have a look Instances in Time

So if you have your own blog or website getting hits, it might be worth a look.

David   
« Last Edit: June 24, 2008, 14:17 by Adeptris »

« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2008, 22:21 »
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They are macro, so it is slower... it should be seen as a long term investment.  If you submit to Alamy chances are your "L" images will find PS a good place to be, especially since Alamy targets a different market.  Sales are rare, but it is to be expected, they are new in the market.

« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2008, 00:10 »
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I really like Photoshelter. I like the vibe of the site and the images they accept.  They have some excellent information on the site about stock and photography in general and Shoot The Blog is always worth a read.

Sales would appear to have started picking up but they've really only been selling since the start of the year I think.

To me they are a refreshing change from the (at times) blandness of the major microstock site I submit to.

I've got about 20 images live there but hope to increase that significantly in the next few weeks.

« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2008, 08:31 »
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I don't like they don't accept illustrations. It sucks.
Second thing sucks that they don't explain at all why some images are rejected.
Think what you want...

« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2008, 08:47 »
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You should be aware that you cannot list images in the Photoshelter Collection if they are available elsewhere for less than $50.  You can read more about this decision here:

http://blog.photoshelter.com/corp/2008/06/photoshelter-vs-microstock.html

This rules out using images you have at the major micro agencies, unless you decide to delete them and upload them only to sites where you can set your own prices to a minimum of $50.

dullegg

« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2008, 11:08 »
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I just got admitted and got my photos accepted. Very non-micro images
are the order of the day. For which, I am very happy to know.
My rejected images were all the typical micro-sellable shots,
so it's obvious that they do not want micro type shots.
A breath of fresh air ... or as Cooper mentioned, the lack of blandness of some  micro sites.
Reminder and a big warning echoing Stu99:
 You cannot submit the same images you already have on SS, IS,etc.
In fact, there is even a section where they specify they are not looking for micro published images that have been selling at low cost.

fotoKmyst

« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2008, 11:15 »
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I read their pro advice and it certainly look like a great place to be.
or to quote one of the pros , " I wouldn't want to shoot xxx type photos
from a short list, ... it would be hoaky for me!"
... "buyers are looking for something authentic"..."be what you enjoy shooting" ... "or else it shows in your work".

Just what I needed as a photographer almost gasping for air,
with all the "shoot to measure" crap. :o 8)

« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2008, 15:06 »
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2008, 15:31 »
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I am there as well but do not get carried away, there is a market for all image types Micro's and Macro's, sales seem few on PhotoShelter as they are new.

There is a lot of information to take in, review times of 12 days, rejection reasons are not given and are subjective, but they do seem to be moving in the right direction, the buyers and buyer requests seem to be American based.

If you are expecting a Micro type experience then you wil be dissapointed, it is a far slower pace of life on the Macro's.

David  8)

« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2008, 17:04 »
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I have about 20 approved and 140 loaded to go. Like the others said the keywording is tedious and slow.

No sales yet.

« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2008, 21:17 »
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Last time I uploaded there key wording came in through he meta data and is mush easier than IS.

« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2008, 22:41 »
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Last time I uploaded there key wording came in through he meta data and is mush easier than IS.

Yeh, I've never had a problem with their keywording.  I like the fact that you keyword an image after the image is accepted.  I always find it much quicker than IS.  (But then I only have 20 images live so...)

tan510jomast

« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2008, 15:36 »
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Cheers to Adeptris i found out about Photoshelter and have one live recently. Waiting for another 18 pedning to go RM.
Naturally, these are new images not previously sold as RF.
Looking forward to be with Photoshelter , long range.


« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2008, 08:44 »
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Not only is it easier than IS but the pay is better, sold one image with a $70.00 commission....

tan510jomast

« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2008, 09:57 »
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Not only is it easier than IS but the pay is better, sold one image with a $70.00 commission....

wow, congrats digitalfood :o
 that's like 280 sales at 25 cents commissions on IS ... all in one go
Worth the trouble of waiting 12 weeks for review on PS for sure!


 

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