It's too easy an option to photograph our children.How would those parents fair if they asked there childrens friends parents for permission to shoot there children for microstock.Would they get a posative response.I will pay you xxxx.The photo will be sold with a licence and could appear anywhere in the world........Dont worry !!!

shank too bad you appear only lately here, you are a joy! 

It's too easy an option to photograph our children.How would those parents fair if they asked there childrens friends parents for permission to shoot there children for microstock.Would they get a posative response.I will pay you xxxx.The photo will be sold with a licence and could appear anywhere in the world........Dont worry !!!

Yep, I do that too.  I simply don't see the negative here.  Are you suggesting that no children should be used for stock?

As for the earlier argument about embarrassing the kids...trust me, I've got this covered.  When they are in High School I will be picking them up in a 1979 Pinto wearing Khaki Shorts 3 sizes too small, black knee high socks with sandals and a Ms. Pac Man Half Shirt on.  Embarrassment is inevitable if you are my kid

Mat

It's too easy an option to photograph our children.How would those parents fair if they asked there childrens friends parents for permission to shoot there children for microstock.Would they get a posative response.I will pay you xxxx.The photo will be sold with a licence and could appear anywhere in the world........Dont worry !!!

Sometimes I pay them and other times I don't. Some parents mind, and say so, and others really like the idea, and say so. That's right, don't worry.

As for the earlier argument about embarrassing the kids...trust me, I've got this covered.  When they are in High School I will be picking them up in a 1979 Pinto wearing Khaki Shorts 3 sizes too small, black knee high socks with sandals and a Ms. Pac Man Half Shirt on.  Embarrassment is inevitable if you are my kid

DADDY!!  Is that you?? 

BTW, don't forget the fanny pack!   

Mat, you are absolutely right.  Embarrassment is inevitable with kids.  If you have teenagers and they aren't embarrassed by you, there's either something wrong with you, or with your kids.  

I just want people to be more careful and considerate when photographing children for money.

I'm not even sure money is the issue here. It sounds like there would still be opposition even if no money was involved. Most of the arguments against photographing your kids in this thread seem to be more focused on issues of embarrassing the kids, forcing them into modeling, not having control of where/how the images are used, etc.

Quote from: shank_ali_reborn on July 05, 2011, 13:30

I just want people to be more careful and considerate when photographing children for money.

sorry but I didn�t saw many advices from you about the subject, seem that you want everybody talk and time to time drop a bomb

My advice is always the same..be true to yourself and dont be afraid to stand on any cracks in the pavement.Live a little and laugh alot 

It's too easy an option to photograph our children.How would those parents fair if they asked there childrens friends parents for permission to shoot there children for microstock.Would they get a posative response.I will pay you xxxx.The photo will be sold with a licence and could appear anywhere in the world........Dont worry !!!

Yes, asking others isn't a problem.

My wife has decided that she doesn't want our son to be a stock model.  I would probably use him if it was just me deciding but I am happy to accept her wish.  When I ask others if they are interested in modeling and having their kids model - if they are family or friends I also tell them that I have decided NOT to use my son and obviously understand if they don't want to use their children or themselves... and continue to explain how the images will be used or how much / little control there is when an image is used.  Different people, different opinions, no side is 'right'

I just want people to be more careful and considerate when photographing children for money.

What makes you think that you're in a position to judge or give advice to others or that people value or care about your opinion anyway?

Quote from: RT on July 05, 2011, 16:23

Quote from: shank_ali_reborn on July 05, 2011, 13:30

I just want people to be more careful and considerate when photographing children for money.

What makes you think that you're in a position to judge or give advice to others or that people value or care about your opinion anyway?

Indeed. 

I am curious - "more careful and considerate" than what?  There don't seem to be any examples on offer of people who are not careful and considerate about photographing children. 

Can you point to any examples of abuse that inspired your strongly worded opinions on the subject?

I third this point.  Leaf's post is great.  A conscious decision was made by parents more than capable of making decisions for their family.  My family made a different choice but I can't see how either could be considered right or wrong.  I have the impression based on his post that he agrees.

For someone to imply that a decision I have made involving my children is exploitative or wrong gets my blood pressure pumping.  Basically, it's none of your friggin business how I raise my children. 

I am hoping English isn't your first language and there is a communication breakdown here because when you say "I just want people to be more careful and considerate when photographing children for money."  I perceive that to mean "You aren't careful or considerate with your children." 

Grrr

The stock agencies love images of children.Designers love images of children.Good money can be made from shooting children.If you need the money you take photographs of your children 
I believe you can make money from other sources.That's really the point i'm trying to make !

Quote from: shank_ali_reborn on July 06, 2011, 01:09

The stock agencies love images of children.Designers love images of children.Good money can be made from shooting children.If you need the money you take photographs of your children 
I believe you can make money from other sources.That's really the point i'm trying to make !

You seriously talk some crap sometimes Shank. Most kids I know would much rather stand in front of a camera, than mow the lawn, wash the dishes, make beds, or do a paper round but you go ahead save some money, make your kids do the chores instead of employing somebody else to do it.
What is an hour or two here and there getting your photos taken when it means better holidays, and a better lifestyle in general?

Yes, he does.

What kids like isn't necessarily the best thing. It might be better for their general upbringing to be washing dishes for nothing than getting paid for being photographed, and some of them might prefer lying in a field with their friends smoking dope to either doing the dishes or getting photographed. That's why it is the parents who sign the form, not the kids: because they can't be relied on to distinguish between what they like and what is good for them.

I sell photos of my son, his little brother (who is not my child), and the children of some of my friends. I don't have a problem with it and neither do any of the parents, even though they don't get paid. Maybe if everyone else stops photographing children, my photos will sell better!