Author Topic: October Earnings (Read 29201 times)

luissantos84 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 01, 2013, 11:58 »

BME

1st - SS 45.1% (BME +7%) (+20% from Oct 2012)
3rd - IS 5.8% (PP average included) (-63% from Oct 2012)
4th - FT 5.5% (+22% from Oct 2012)
5th - 123RF 4.4% (-40% from Oct 2012)
9th - DT 2.7% (-23% from Oct 2012)

outside the "usual top 5" and on 30 agencies - 36.5%

chromaco · « **Reply #26 on:** November 01, 2013, 12:25 »

While I admire Sean's uploading preferences and methodology it is hardly what you would consider to be typical. If he were uploading in a method anywhere close to the average independent contributor his numbers would be significantly higher. The only reason I even mention this is because it is very likely that his results are going to be quoted a bit later on as a reason not to be independent. We need to remember that without subs on DP and 123 and no Shutterstock or DT his numbers are not exactly indicative of a true independent.

tickstock · « **Reply #27 on:** November 01, 2013, 12:27 »

Freedom · « **Reply #28 on:** November 01, 2013, 12:34 »

Quote from: tickstock on November 01, 2013, 12:27

Quote from: chromaco on November 01, 2013, 12:25
While I admire Sean's uploading preferences and methodology it is hardly what you would consider to be typical. If he were uploading in a method anywhere close to the average independent contributor his numbers would be significantly higher. The only reason I even mention this is because it is very likely that his results are going to be quoted a bit later on as a reason not to be independent. We need to remember that without subs on DP and 123 and no Shutterstock or DT his numbers are not exactly indicative of a true independent.
If I were to go independent I also wouldn't support those sites. I think Sean is doing the right thing even though it must be hard.

Also this will likely be my BME or very close when Getty sales come in.

I am sure Sean will succeed, maybe he can contribute to Offset at SS?

chromaco · « **Reply #29 on:** November 01, 2013, 12:34 »

There are other options that he isn't exploring, but I will agree with you that this is probably the best argument for staying exclusive. However, it does throw the whole "bottom line is all I care about" argument out the window. It makes very little sense to upload in this manner if you are only concerned about how much money you are going to make.
I have a similar but slightly different uploading philosophy. I am in it for the long run and spend much more effort on a higher rpd and self hosted. My results have been constant BME's without supporting the sub sites for almost a year. In October my self hosted results were 95% of what I earned on SS and 3 times that of IS with a smaller port on SS and a comparable one on IS.

tickstock · « **Reply #30 on:** November 01, 2013, 12:35 »

tickstock · « **Reply #31 on:** November 01, 2013, 12:39 »

luissantos84 · « **Reply #32 on:** November 01, 2013, 12:45 »

Quote from: tickstock on November 01, 2013, 12:35

Quote from: Freedom on November 01, 2013, 12:34
Quote from: tickstock on November 01, 2013, 12:27
Quote from: chromaco on November 01, 2013, 12:25
While I admire Sean's uploading preferences and methodology it is hardly what you would consider to be typical. If he were uploading in a method anywhere close to the average independent contributor his numbers would be significantly higher. The only reason I even mention this is because it is very likely that his results are going to be quoted a bit later on as a reason not to be independent. We need to remember that without subs on DP and 123 and no Shutterstock or DT his numbers are not exactly indicative of a true independent.
If I were to go independent I also wouldn't support those sites. I think Sean is doing the right thing even though it must be hard.

Also this will likely be my BME or very close when Getty sales come in.

I am sure Sean will succeed, maybe he can contribute to Offset at SS?
I'm not sure what Sean's standards are but the 30% royalty rate might be too low? Especially if it is content that could possibly compete against the 50% he gets at Stocksy.

guess you are forgetting the pricing, Offset (250 and 500), Stocksy (10 to 100)

tickstock · « **Reply #33 on:** November 01, 2013, 12:47 »

luissantos84 · « **Reply #34 on:** November 01, 2013, 12:50 »

250 x 0.3 = 75$
500 x 0.3 = 150$

highest on Stocksy (beside EL) for 100$ x 0.5 = 50$

I don't think that anybody would be unhappy with selling a license for 75$

tickstock · « **Reply #35 on:** November 01, 2013, 12:51 »

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #36 on:** November 01, 2013, 12:57 »

Quote from: chromaco on November 01, 2013, 12:34

There are other options that he isn't exploring, but I will agree with you that this is probably the best argument for staying exclusive. However, it does throw the whole "bottom line is all I care about" argument out the window. It makes very little sense to upload in this manner if you are only concerned about how much money you are going to make.
I have a similar but slightly different uploading philosophy. I am in it for the long run and spend much more effort on a higher rpd and self hosted. My results have been constant BME's without supporting the sub sites for almost a year. In October my self hosted results were 95% of what I earned on SS and 3 times that of IS with a smaller port on SS and a comparable one on IS.

Oh, I forgot my self-hosted Photoshelter royalties. $100, up from $35 in September. At least it's paying for itself.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #37 on:** November 01, 2013, 13:24 »

I can't really do year on year comparisons as I virtually quit iStock in February and actually quit BigStock in March, but SS had a barnstorming October in spite of the fact that I have uploaded very little this year (not on purpose; various real life things have been distractions).

SS was up 10% over September and 5.5% over last October (which was a very good month). My year typically has November, December and October as the top three months (in that order) so I am optimistic for the next two months.

DT was a huge surprise - in a good way! They've been bumping along with regular but lackluster performance, but October was up 48% over September and 28% over last October (for $$). Promisingly the October downloads were up 35% over September - in other words it wasn't just a few big ELs lifting the totals.

123rf had an OK month - flat with last October, but as I'm now down to 45% instead of 50% and haven't uploaded anything to them since they joined the dark side with an RC scheme, that's not bad (and I'd probably upload to them again if they'd just ditch the variable scheme and return to 50% royalties).

Alamy returned from the dead with a couple of sales, but as they haven't cleared I have to wait for payment, reduced payout threshold notwithstanding.

PhotoDune continues as a steady low earner, but October was slightly down on September which is the wrong direction!

CanStock is sadly flat and I may just wrap them up as they aren't getting enough of the Fotosearch non-subscription sales any more to make the low royalties on everything else make sense.

GL Stock came back with a few sales after a long break with nothing, but they just don't seem to be finding their feet. Veer had a decent month (especially given I have only 800 files there) but no ELs which is the one good thing about Veer.

However add Veer and Canstock together and I still made more from one sale at FAA.

cobalt · « **Reply #38 on:** November 01, 2013, 13:41 »

tickstock, didn't you say that Getty sent you a house contract and you can now contribute directly? What are your first experiences?

tickstock · « **Reply #39 on:** November 01, 2013, 13:43 »

luissantos84 · « **Reply #40 on:** November 01, 2013, 13:56 »

Quote from: tickstock on November 01, 2013, 12:51

Quote from: luissantos84 on November 01, 2013, 12:50
250 x 0.3 = 75$
500 x 0.3 = 150$

highest on Stocksy (beside EL) for 100$ x 0.5 = 50$

I don't think that anybody would be unhappy with selling a license for 75$
You might be if it's competing with your $100 sales? For example 40% on Getty RM. Or 100% on your personal site.

of course!

cobalt · « **Reply #41 on:** November 01, 2013, 14:47 »

Well, good luck. Please let us know how you do. 50 dollars per upload is a very drastic requirement. It is a pity they didn't offer you at least 10 free files. You are doing a lot of active advertising for them here and by reporting good results on msg you could give a very informed opinion that would interest many people.

tickstock · « **Reply #42 on:** November 01, 2013, 14:58 »

cobalt · « **Reply #43 on:** November 01, 2013, 15:06 »

At the moment. i think you are by far the most enthusiastic public istock exclusive. I am not seeing anyone else post so positively about istock like you do. Not even on the istock forums, not on their facebookgroup or other places.

And any public comment,especially a positive one, is free advertising for an agency.

We all know that everyones portfolio and results are different, but I think the more people report results from Getty or other macro sites, the better. And since RM might be rediscovered by artists and agencies (and buyers) any insight to the RM experience is valuable.

gostwyck · « **Reply #44 on:** November 01, 2013, 15:18 »

Quote from: cobalt on November 01, 2013, 15:06

At the moment. i think you are by far the most enthusiastic public istock exclusive. I am not seeing anyone else post so positively about istock like you do. Not even on the istock forums, not on their facebookgroup or other places.

And any public comment,especially a positive one, is free advertising for an agency.

Hmm __ good point. Tickstock could easily be an Istock admin in disguise. Obvious when you think about it!

tickstock · « **Reply #45 on:** November 01, 2013, 15:24 »

Snufkin · « **Reply #46 on:** November 01, 2013, 15:32 »

Quote from: gostwyck on November 01, 2013, 15:18

Quote from: cobalt on November 01, 2013, 15:06
At the moment. i think you are by far the most enthusiastic public istock exclusive. I am not seeing anyone else post so positively about istock like you do. Not even on the istock forums, not on their facebookgroup or other places.

And any public comment,especially a positive one, is free advertising for an agency.

Hmm __ good point. Tickstock could easily be an Istock admin in disguise.

... or a PR agency

tickstock · « **Reply #47 on:** November 01, 2013, 15:38 »

gostwyck · « **Reply #48 on:** November 01, 2013, 15:42 »

Quote from: tickstock on November 01, 2013, 15:38

Quote from: Snufkin on November 01, 2013, 15:32
Quote from: gostwyck on November 01, 2013, 15:18
Quote from: cobalt on November 01, 2013, 15:06
At the moment. i think you are by far the most enthusiastic public istock exclusive. I am not seeing anyone else post so positively about istock like you do. Not even on the istock forums, not on their facebookgroup or other places.

And any public comment,especially a positive one, is free advertising for an agency.

Hmm __ good point. Tickstock could easily be an Istock admin in disguise.

... or a PR agency
I'm thinking they could find someone better to do their PR don't you?

Not at all. You're well worth all the money they're paying you. I just hope they are paying you as it would be really sad otherwise.

tickstock · « **Reply #49 on:** November 01, 2013, 15:45 »

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