Author Topic: JULY SALES (Read 25159 times)

Pauws99 · « **Reply #50 on:** July 31, 2017, 15:46 »

Quote from: Brightontl on July 31, 2017, 14:51

For me there is another reason why most agencies now accept everything: reviewers cost a lot of money and they generally do an extremely bad job.
How can you expect reviewers paid peanuts to guess which files are going to sell?
Even if an image is plain, stupid and technically wrong, it can be just what the customer needed in that moment.
I understand the strategy of most agencies, at least the surviving one: accept everything and let the market choose which images are the winners.
Then their search engine becomes extremely important: people who have no sales are immediately; downgraded and basically disappear from the scene, as if their images were not approved, only that the choice is made by the buyers, not the reviewers (and also doesn't cost any money).
It does make a lot of sense

Yes I agree with that but I don't think the search engines are up to the job....

Pauws99 · « **Reply #51 on:** July 31, 2017, 15:48 »

Quote from: etudiante_rapide on July 31, 2017, 12:59

Quote from: Pauws99 on July 31, 2017, 00:53
we are probably third in line behind buyers who the sites need to keep happy with images to suit their needs. They also need to keep sellers sufficiently interested to keep uploading but this doesn't currently seem an issue.

definitely, as i said before, if they drop an sjlocke and let him suffer a shortfall, and instead please 1000 or even 10,000 marginal contributors that would go on ss forum every day as soon as the end the month with 30 dollars, they would not be lacking any new images from sjlocke. there's enough copycat to fill his void, and yes, their work won't be as good as sean's, but really,
the buyers can't see the diff anyway! it's like hamburgers..you feed them garbage and eventually millions will buy from you everyday

and if the buyers cant see the difference in the end thats the only thing that matters

Brightontl · « **Reply #52 on:** July 31, 2017, 16:35 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on July 31, 2017, 15:46

Quote from: Brightontl on July 31, 2017, 14:51
For me there is another reason why most agencies now accept everything: reviewers cost a lot of money and they generally do an extremely bad job.
How can you expect reviewers paid peanuts to guess which files are going to sell?
Even if an image is plain, stupid and technically wrong, it can be just what the customer needed in that moment.
I understand the strategy of most agencies, at least the surviving one: accept everything and let the market choose which images are the winners.
Then their search engine becomes extremely important: people who have no sales are immediately; downgraded and basically disappear from the scene, as if their images were not approved, only that the choice is made by the buyers, not the reviewers (and also doesn't cost any money).
It does make a lot of sense
Yes I agree with that but I don't think the search engines are up to the job....

I think the best search engine is SS one.
And that is the reason why they are by far the number one.
Anyone else is miles and miles behind

ShadySue · « **Reply #53 on:** July 31, 2017, 19:15 »

With all the provisos mentioned above, my downloads ytd on iS for July was my BMY by 10%, and up 16% on June. (I remembered to delete the small bump for balancing ytd stats numbers)
However, as my figures are now so low, probably Not Statistically Relevant.

As my monthly rpd fluctuates rapidly, the dl increases might still result in a poor $$$ month, or I might be pleasantly surprised. I'll know in three weeks' time.

Oh, the excitement.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #54 on:** July 31, 2017, 19:18 »

Quote from: Brightontl on July 31, 2017, 16:35

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And that is the reason why they are by far the number one.

correction! they are #1 but not by far ! it is like they say in politics or boxing, they are chosen not because they are the best, but that there is nothing else worth selecting. ss is the only bozo that is #1 based on their history; something they are "by far" and "miles and miles behind" the SS that we all chose in the first place.

ShadySue · « **Reply #55 on:** July 31, 2017, 19:26 »

SS is peculiar. An SS ad turned up on my phone today (must get an adblocker installed there, where is that round tuit?) and when I clicked on it (so they had to pay for annoying me, plus I was on a long bus journey), I got to a French language page (though the photo which was in the ad had been taken in the UK). I just typed in shutterstock into a new tab to see if the search engine had improved (it was awful, it was good then it was so-so, but I haven't checked in ages) and I got to a ~~Spanish~~ sorry, it's Portuguese, language page. All I did was type shutterstock into the URL line and somehow landed there, searching from Scotland.

Doesn't matter, as I'm not a buyer, but seems strange ...

Pauws99 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 01, 2017, 01:16 »

Turned out a better month than it felt...assuming IS doesn't tank better than last july. Volume down on SS but more than compensated for by some higher value downloads. FT/adbobe poor. DT third month in a row above rolling average..maybe an improvement is "sticking" for once. Third month RF123 has been disaster after previously been punching above its weight for me. Not great no apocalypse.

sarah2 · « **Reply #57 on:** August 01, 2017, 01:38 »

Worst month for years unless IS rides to the rescue (unlikely).

eyewave · « **Reply #58 on:** August 01, 2017, 01:57 »

Quote from: sarah2 on August 01, 2017, 01:38

Worst month for years unless IS rides to the rescue (unlikely).

Same here.
SS: worst month since Feb. 2014 (despite my files having doubled)
FT: worst month in about 2 years
Stock: worst month since 2010 (but who cares anyway)

qunamax · « **Reply #59 on:** August 01, 2017, 05:38 »

IS a bit less than average months.
SS BME almost double my average months, I did increase my portfolio but new files sell rarely.
FT completely dead since June, flat line, it was in line with IS before June, very strange.

jonbull · « **Reply #60 on:** August 01, 2017, 08:01 »

i suspect that there is very few we can do to improve significantly...

or u hit the jackpot with some niche photos, practically impossible, the big problem is that if they accept every crap , it's impossible to being noticed if people cheat with keyword and they accept all.
i suspect if you have many files in popular tab so you can still do good, but if you have not many you can't grow up cause practically nobody is looking for photos through new files, due to a completely illogical mess. i made some search to see what is selling yesterday...really is not possible to have such a mess and nobody who doesn't do nothing.

Mantis · « **Reply #61 on:** August 01, 2017, 08:39 »

I thought I'd never say this but I am hoping that IStock bails out my huge drop from Shutterstock.

pancaketom · « **Reply #62 on:** August 01, 2017, 10:27 »

SS was horrible. Lowest RPI ever, I have to go back to Nov 2007 to find a lower month there - that was with less than 1/6 of the images (nearly 1/7).

It wasn't the worst month of the year - in fact there were 2 worse this year. Ok sales at Alamy and a few of my middle sellers kept things from being completely dire, but it is still pretty sad.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #63 on:** August 01, 2017, 17:19 »

Quote from: eyewave on August 01, 2017, 01:57

Quote from: sarah2 on August 01, 2017, 01:38
Worst month for years unless IS rides to the rescue (unlikely).

Same here.
SS: worst month since Feb. 2014 (despite my files having doubled)
FT: worst month in about 2 years
Stock: worst month since 2010 (but who cares anyway)

ss was up .. but that was because for months it tanked so , anything looks like up nowadays ...
but like you said, who cares anyway?
i think pancake tom sums it all up ...

Quote from: pancaketom on August 01, 2017, 10:27

SS was horrible. Lowest RPI ever, I have to go back to Nov 2007 to find a lower month there - that was with less than 1/6 of the images (nearly 1/7).

Quasarphoto · « **Reply #64 on:** August 01, 2017, 18:16 »

Same as last year.

UKstock · « **Reply #65 on:** August 01, 2017, 20:40 »

Video sales were down on last year on SS and P5 despite 2000 more uploads and better content.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #66 on:** August 01, 2017, 22:23 »

Quote from: sarah2 on August 01, 2017, 01:38

Worst month for years unless IS rides to the rescue (unlikely).

Which we don't know until September and by then, we have more important things to look at than two month old reports from a snake in the grass.

derek · « **Reply #67 on:** August 02, 2017, 00:24 »

You people here from where do you get this stamina? I admire it actually!! I mean for those of us who are doing this full-time and as a living its pretty obvious that the micro ship is overall sinking and the reason it will never recover is the fact the agencies are still piling up millions and millions of accepted files no matter what and every single month.
Its become a complete mugs game.

Dumc · « **Reply #68 on:** August 02, 2017, 02:37 »

Stop whining already and just quit. We got it by now. MS is dead, your earnings are down 50% and new files don't sell.

derek · « **Reply #69 on:** August 02, 2017, 04:28 »

Quote from: Dumc on August 02, 2017, 02:37

Stop whining already and just quit. We got it by now. MS is dead, your earnings are down 50% and new files don't sell.

Sure Box! hehehe!

derek · « **Reply #70 on:** August 02, 2017, 06:36 »

Quote from: Mantis on August 01, 2017, 08:39

I thought I'd never say this but I am hoping that IStock bails out my huge drop from Shutterstock.

Actually you could be right! might just do. I have noticed a considerable increase in sales from IStock! probably around a 200% increase. Dont ask me how come because Im an independent.
It could be that they have taken a kinder attitude towards indies and finallty realize they actually need their content!

alexzappa · « **Reply #71 on:** August 02, 2017, 06:47 »

Quote from: ShadySue on July 28, 2017, 03:07

ESP

Account Management is top right of the page and Profile is one of the tabs near the top on the left.

It's where I was looking for... all I can see are personal information (Name, Address and so on..)

sauletas · « **Reply #72 on:** August 02, 2017, 08:06 »

This July is my worst month this year but +24% compared to last year July.
Pond5 beat up Shutterstock first time ever!
Here is my top 7 (50$+) compared with July/average of 2016 year:

1. Pond5        +156%/ +23%
2. Shutterstock -23%/ -41%
3. Fotolia/Adobe +3%/ -4%
4. Videoblocks     +46%/ -53%
5. Dreamstime    +131%/+153%
6. 123rf       +358%/ +4%
7. Depositphotos -15%/ +72%

lightphoto · « **Reply #73 on:** August 02, 2017, 10:51 »

Worst month since July 2012, when my ports were about half the size they are now. Down 40% from June, 2017. Down 10% from July 2017
Shutterstock continues a very poor 2017, but July was bad in 2016, too. -70% from June, down 7% from a poor July 2016.
Getty/Istock (June) - another decent month, but down slightly from other months in 2017. Still, it was double June 2016.
Fotolia - OK, only down 18% from June, down 15% from July 2016.
Dreamstime - down 40% from June, down 1/3rd from July 2016
123RF - BAD. down 85% from a record June. down 80% from July 2016
Alamy - Zip, zero, nada. hard to compare months since sales are so all over the place.
I do have two Alamy sales in August already, so that's looking up.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #74 on:** August 02, 2017, 21:10 »

Quote from: Dumc on August 02, 2017, 02:37

Stop whining already and just quit. We got it by now. MS is dead, your earnings are down 50% and new files don't sell.

He's been writing the same for five years. Might be right, but it's like telling someone that they aren't 18 anymore, when they are 30. We already know that. Just like we know that the whole Micro Market has changed since years ago. Trads are no more. Competition is uploading 1 million new photos a month. Why discuss and argue the obvious with some slant or conspiracy. The market has changed, the competition has changed, the old days are gone for years now, not months.

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Author Topic: JULY SALES (Read 25159 times)

Pauws99

Pauws99

Brightontl

ShadySue

etudiante_rapide

ShadySue

Pauws99

sarah2

eyewave

qunamax

jonbull

Mantis

pancaketom

etudiante_rapide

Quasarphoto

UKstock

YadaYadaYada

derek

Dumc

derek

derek

alexzappa

sauletas

lightphoto

YadaYadaYada

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