Author Topic: How we announce our voices to make a call to our rights? (Read 20408 times)

madman · « **on:** August 04, 2016, 16:30 »

I think how bad we couldnt control prices of our own products on everywhere... our crafts sold by very high prices while can be sold at very low prices on the other hand, our earnings are bad in both cases, I believe that this situation is going to get worse over time, I think microstock agencies earn too much and they pay very little commission to us... I think there must be "microstock trade unions" to protect and defend our rights.. am I right? please ... I'd love to get your feedback... "if you don't ask, you don't get" so I want to ask all the complainant microstockers, how we announce our voices to make a call to our rights?

noodle · « **Reply #1 on:** August 04, 2016, 16:33 »

Mmmmm....nipples....

jar · « **Reply #2 on:** August 04, 2016, 16:34 »

lol here we go again

Sean Locke Photography · « **Reply #3 on:** August 04, 2016, 16:35 »

Sorry, it's only been two weeks since the last thread. Please come back in January.

r2d2 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 04, 2016, 16:40 »

yes we must be united contributors.
For example Revostock. If we have a fund we can sue Craig without a big risk for the individuals.
Maybe something like a "Microstock Contributors Law Fund".
All members paying 20$ a year. Every year the fund members can vote what to do with the money.

madman · « **Reply #5 on:** August 04, 2016, 16:50 »

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on August 04, 2016, 16:35

Sorry, it's only been two weeks since the last thread. Please come back in January.

where is the thread?

ShadySue · « **Reply #6 on:** August 04, 2016, 16:54 »

Quote from: madman on August 04, 2016, 16:50

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on August 04, 2016, 16:35
Sorry, it's only been two weeks since the last thread. Please come back in January.

where is the thread?

http://www.microstockgroup.com/new-sites-general/microstock-agency-made-by-photographers-(by-you)-lets-start

madman · « **Reply #7 on:** August 04, 2016, 17:05 »

this is not the same thing...

marthamarks · « **Reply #8 on:** August 04, 2016, 17:06 »

Quote from: noodle on August 04, 2016, 16:33

Mmmmm....nipples....

LOL!!!

madman · « **Reply #9 on:** August 04, 2016, 17:13 »

by the way, its better if we dont see here any unnecessary posts so can't pollute the subject... thanks for understanding folks...

nipple=pacifier

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #10 on:** August 04, 2016, 18:20 »

Prices will go up when supply drops significantly. Take that however you want.

Regrading a union, I'm not sure I'd even want to join if there was one.

Copidosoma · « **Reply #11 on:** August 04, 2016, 19:04 »

Step 1: learn to use punctuation.

Communicating your message is a somewhat professional way goes a long way toward people taking you seriously.

That was one of the longest run-on sentences I've ever sen.

Chichikov · « **Reply #12 on:** August 04, 2016, 23:46 »

Quote from: madman on August 04, 2016, 16:30

I think how bad we couldnt control prices of our own products on everywhere... our crafts sold by very high prices while can be sold at very low prices on the other hand, our earnings are bad in both cases, I believe that this situation is going to get worse over time, I think microstock agencies earn too much and they pay very little commission to us... I think there must be "microstock trade unions" to protect and defend our rights.. am I right? please ... I'd love to get your feedback... we have a saying there, "baby cant get nipples if dont cry" so I want to ask all the complainant microstockers, how we announce our voices to make a call to our rights?

In all my life I never had to cry to get it…

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #13 on:** August 05, 2016, 01:07 »

I think "if you don't ask, you don't get" is a more universal phrase.

Minsc · « **Reply #14 on:** August 05, 2016, 01:25 »

Rumor has it that the iPhone 7 will have a 21 MP camera that can defocus the background more effectively than before. Won't be DSLR or even mirrorless quality, but it's closing the gap. After taking a few photos, everyone will think they're photographers and they will flood Instagram with their wonderful creations. Everyone will have photos of flowers, trees, clouds, tomatoes, strawberries and grapes good enough to be used for almost anything.

What good would a union do when we're in the middle of an oversupply? There is no reversing the pricing trend unless you take everyone's phones away and you're going to have to pry it off of their cold dead hands. It's right time to diversify and learn some new skills. Honestly, that's really the only thing you can control.

alno · « **Reply #15 on:** August 05, 2016, 06:08 »

It's a free market with really A LOT of buyers and sellers. And it works with good old supply and demand thing. Why instead of trying something new for yourself (cg, code, site themes, forex, tutoring, knitting, breeding rabbits) you are going to make those simple things more complicated?

madman · « **Reply #16 on:** August 05, 2016, 08:47 »

Quote from: Irina Anosova on August 05, 2016, 06:08

It's a free market with really A LOT of buyers and sellers. And it works with good old supply and demand thing. Why instead of trying something new for yourself (cg, code, site themes, forex, tutoring, knitting, breeding rabbits) you are going to make those simple things more complicated?

yea.. that is not so simple as saying...

alno · « **Reply #17 on:** August 05, 2016, 09:17 »

Quote from: madman on August 05, 2016, 08:47

Quote from: Irina Anosova on August 05, 2016, 06:08
It's a free market with really A LOT of buyers and sellers. And it works with good old supply and demand thing. Why instead of trying something new for yourself (cg, code, site themes, forex, tutoring, knitting, breeding rabbits) you are going to make those simple things more complicated?

yea.. that is not so simple as saying...

It is always more simple than we used to think. Two years ago I worked in a bank and had no idea what do ISO, frame rate or slider mean. It's all about our comfort zone and real intention of changing the life.

sharpshot · « **Reply #18 on:** August 05, 2016, 09:39 »

Quote from: madman on August 04, 2016, 16:50

Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on August 04, 2016, 16:35
Sorry, it's only been two weeks since the last thread. Please come back in January.

where is the thread?

There have been lots of threads about this for over a decade now. Just type "union" in the search box if you want to see how this topic has gone nowhere.

madman · « **Reply #19 on:** August 05, 2016, 09:49 »

Quote from: sharpshot on August 05, 2016, 09:39

Quote from: madman on August 04, 2016, 16:50
Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on August 04, 2016, 16:35
Sorry, it's only been two weeks since the last thread. Please come back in January.

where is the thread?
There have been lots of threads about this for over a decade now. Just type "union" in the search box if you want to see how this topic has gone nowhere.

I've made a search for "union" but I cannot say I can find any results "exactly the same" with my topic.

maybe this topic will go "nowhere" but why? there's a reason for that, there is a lot of contributors who selling their works in different microstock agencies and at the same time there is so many contributors who doesn't even know the existence of this forum...

sharpshot · « **Reply #20 on:** August 05, 2016, 10:16 »

Quote from: madman on August 05, 2016, 09:49

Quote from: sharpshot on August 05, 2016, 09:39
Quote from: madman on August 04, 2016, 16:50
Quote from: Sean Locke Photography on August 04, 2016, 16:35
Sorry, it's only been two weeks since the last thread. Please come back in January.

where is the thread?
There have been lots of threads about this for over a decade now. Just type "union" in the search box if you want to see how this topic has gone nowhere.

I've made a search for "union" but I cannot say I can find any results "exactly the same" with my topic.

maybe this topic will go "nowhere" but why? there's a reason for that, there is a lot of contributors who selling their works in different microstock agencies and at the same time there is so many contributors who doesn't even know the existence of this forum...

I have read many threads about a microstock union, maybe you need to search more? It has been discussed for years but nothing ever happens. I gave up on the idea when istock cut commission below 20% and a lot of us were willing to take action but the majority carried on uploading as if nothing had happened.

madman · « **Reply #21 on:** August 05, 2016, 10:18 »

give me the links please...

CJH Photography · « **Reply #22 on:** August 05, 2016, 10:18 »

There is an overwhelming supply of the standard stock images as the equipment gets more advanced and every one thinks they can do everything. Many part-timers are very happy to see even $.20 sale because it means somebody is using their image. Many people are uploading images for FREE to news sites, which then turn around and offer them for sale. A union can't fight over-supply on this scale due to the number of willing "union busters" out there.

Photographers will have to somehow need to found a "niche" that everyone can't (or won't) cover due to the effort or skill involved or accept that micro is a low-return market and headed lower. May be time to sharpen our skills and move on.

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #23 on:** August 05, 2016, 10:22 »

Quote from: PaulieWalnuts on August 04, 2016, 18:20

Prices will go up when supply drops significantly. Take that however you want.

Regrading a union, I'm not sure I'd even want to join if there was one.

LOL, we paid the dues,
the Union boss , who would it be, maybe an ex -major shareholder of ss, getty, or even the owner of fb,LOL
comes in and we gather at each city around the world, holding up cards
Microstock photographer on strike !!!

that's funny. i like the movie,
but i won't be one of the protagonist. anything that say Union, i am not for it.

ok, i go join the rest of the Union ppl outside the bldg to smoke (not their lunch or coffee break)

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #24 on:** August 07, 2016, 07:49 »

Quote from: madman on August 05, 2016, 10:18

give me the links please...

So you want to organize a union but can't even use a simple search function?

There are dozens of posts with union brought up in them and if you click the "Search in topic subjects only" you will find several posts specifically about organizing a union.

Do your own research please...

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Author Topic: How we announce our voices to make a call to our rights? (Read 20408 times)

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