Author Topic: Did You Know Wirestock Content Is on KeyCutStock? (Read 2109 times)

bennu99 · « **on:** June 24, 2024, 05:37 »

Just wondering if any of the Wirestock contributors are aware that their videos and images are being sold on KeyCutStock as well. I have an account with Wirestock, but I stopped uploading long ago when they changed their policy. However, they don't mention anywhere that they sell on KeyCutStock. In fact, they have a substantial portfolio there with over three million images and more than thirty thousand videos. The videos there are usually sold in the price range of $250 and up, if they sell. It so happened that I have an account there as well, which is how I found out about it.

Have a look: https://www.keycutstock.com/artist/30366?type=video&page=1

bennu99 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 24, 2024, 05:53 »

I mean why it is not mentioned here as are the other agencies?

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #2 on:** June 24, 2024, 11:39 »

Well, if they don't pay contributors for sales there - it's probably because they figured they could get away with it, figuring most artists were european/north american, and didn't speak Korean...

WendyT · « **Reply #3 on:** June 24, 2024, 20:11 »

It is probably covered under "extra channels".

bennu99 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 24, 2024, 23:45 »

It will be really strange if it is covered under "extra channels" because as I mentioned this stock site has quite high price range for video (it was video only till couple of years back). Also KeyCutStock is one of the very few that asked for written and sent back contract on paper. Its not a penny stock agency to cover under the "extra channels".

Faustvasea · « **Reply #5 on:** June 25, 2024, 00:23 »

Quote from: bennu99 on June 24, 2024, 23:45

It will be really strange if it is covered under "extra channels" because as I mentioned this stock site has quite high price range for video (it was video only till couple of years back). Also KeyCutStock is one of the very few that asked for written and sent back contract on paper. Its not a penny stock agency to cover under the "extra channels".

A bit off topic, is it good agency to contribute to ?

bennu99 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 25, 2024, 01:58 »

I prefer Pond5 even though their prices are similar. Its not your daily earning stock. Just when it happens its quite substantial. My question is when an agency like Wirestock represents their users in a such a high price stock agency should they not know about it?

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #7 on:** June 25, 2024, 11:24 »

Quote from: WendyT on June 24, 2024, 20:11

It is probably covered under "extra channels".

KeyCutStock could be licensing selected images through WS, by choice. Extra channels makes sense.

Quote from: bennu99 on June 24, 2024, 23:45

It will be really strange if it is covered under "extra channels" because as I mentioned this stock site has quite high price range for video (it was video only till couple of years back). Also KeyCutStock is one of the very few that asked for written and sent back contract on paper. Its not a penny stock agency to cover under the "extra channels".

Did you think of writing to Wirestock and asking?

bennu99 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 25, 2024, 12:38 »

For me personally, it does not matter since whatever I have left on Wirestock won't be eligible for licensing there. I just thought that whoever sends their content to Wirestock should know this. It's not mentioned anywhere on Wirestock where the "agencies" are.

"KeyCutStock could be licensing selected images through Wirestock, by choice. Extra channels make sense."

Did you see the portfolio there with 3,800,000 images and 31,000 videos? I would not call this "a selection."

The question here is transparency, or the lack of it.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #9 on:** July 01, 2024, 09:19 »

Quote from: bennu99 on June 25, 2024, 12:38

For me personally, it does not matter since whatever I have left on Wirestock won't be eligible for licensing there. I just thought that whoever sends their content to Wirestock should know this. It's not mentioned anywhere on Wirestock where the "agencies" are.

"KeyCutStock could be licensing selected images through Wirestock, by choice. Extra channels make sense."

Did you see the portfolio there with 3,800,000 images and 31,000 videos? I would not call this "a selection."

The question here is transparency, or the lack of it.

Extra Channels?

"What do I get with Extra Channels?

We’re constantly seeking new partnerships with brands, stock photo agencies, print-on demand marketplaces, API integrations, and other platforms to expand the market for our creators. Wirestock’s Extra Channels program provides you with even more opportunities to make money with your content. Anytime we’re approached by a company interested in purchasing content from Wirestock, we find the very best, helping our creators maximize sales for every image, video, or vector.

All sales through Extra Channels are reported on your dashboard, with specific information about each source. It is important to note that pricing and royalty rates may vary. For standard partnerships, it will be 15%. However, in some cases, our commission rate may be higher than 15% (but never more than 50%) due to costs related to sales fees, integration and maintenance costs and specific partnership types."

Only 31,000 videos? Looks like an API partner, who selects what they want from the Wirestock collection. The TOS cover this kind of distribution, where we all have a choice. Sign and agree or don't upload to Wirestock.

You probably already know, but just in case, do you understand API partners and how the major agencies all use them, to distribute and create more income for us and them?

For your transparency question, do you know all the partners for iStock, Adobe, Shutterstock, Pond5 and Dreamstime? Do they disclose that information? My impression has been for years, that none of these places and not Wirestock either, have informed us, who their partners are. This is normal and usual.

bennu99 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 01, 2024, 10:06 »

If you're satisfied with sales in the price range of $250 going under "extra channels," but sales from 123rf at 10 cents being listed as a separate agency, then there's no need to worry. I'm not trying to change your opinion on this. However, not everyone feels the same, and my message is aimed at those who might want to know this.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #11 on:** July 01, 2024, 10:19 »

Quote from: bennu99 on July 01, 2024, 10:06

If you're satisfied with sales in the price range of $250 going under "extra channels," but sales from 123rf at 10 cents being listed as a separate agency, then there's no need to worry. I'm not trying to change your opinion on this. However, not everyone feels the same, and my message is aimed at those who might want to know this.

You're changing the original post, concern? There are many other places and partners and they are reported under Extra Channels. Your original post says: "However, they don't mention anywhere that they sell on KeyCutStock."

You are correct, they don't list all the places that are partners. As I pointed out, no agencies of the major type, tell us who their partners are or where the distribution for their version of extra channels, is going to.

If I got a sale of $250 reported in extra channels, for WS, I'd be happy, not concerned. As for 123RF, have you looked lately? They might be reported under Extra Channels now.

There's no opinion for me to change. It's a plain fact, that agencies do not disclose partner sites. Partner Sites = Extra Channels on WS.

bennu99 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 01, 2024, 10:47 »

I'm not changing the original topic. My concern has always been about transparency regarding where Wirestock sells content, including KeyCutStock. If you're satisfied with how sales are reported under "extra channels," that's fine. However, this information is crucial for those who want to know exactly where their work is being sold.