Author Topic: Calling for Entries at our NEW WEBSITE (Read 14327 times)

Tenebroso · « **Reply #25 on:** September 12, 2020, 06:23 »

Perhaps it is all very hasty, give an opinion, but the sensation is the video, for being stronger turnover, making money and disappearing. It points to South Korea.
It's very sad, spending time not doing things right. It is hasty, but the feeling is not pleasant. And less at this time, since alternatives are needed. But real.
We'll be alert.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #26 on:** September 13, 2020, 06:55 »

Weird how on the Stock Coalition Facebook page under his Calling for Entries post the option to comment is turned off.

And there is no reaction from the OP.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #27 on:** September 13, 2020, 11:48 »

Quote from: Noedelhap on September 13, 2020, 06:55

Weird how on the Stock Coalition Facebook page under his Calling for Entries post the option to comment is turned off.

And there is no reaction from the OP.

If you read all the comments, you'll see one from me - I turned off comments. The Coalition group isn't a place to advertise your business.

I posted a link in that comment to this thread so anyone who was interested could read the discussion here.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #28 on:** September 14, 2020, 04:21 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on September 13, 2020, 11:48

Quote from: Noedelhap on September 13, 2020, 06:55
Weird how on the Stock Coalition Facebook page under his Calling for Entries post the option to comment is turned off.

And there is no reaction from the OP.

If you read all the comments, you'll see one from me - I turned off comments. The Coalition group isn't a place to advertise your business.

I posted a link in that comment to this thread so anyone who was interested could read the discussion here.

Alright, now I get it

I agree that it's no place to advertise. Hopefully your comment there discourages people from uploading (at least until we know more!)

cliffordthebigreddog · « **Reply #29 on:** September 17, 2020, 21:04 »

Thank you for the concerns and criticism.

I think I owe you guys an explanation of how this project came to be.

I believe that the market that deals with the entirety of stock content can be separated into two parts: one that sells extreme high-quality videos for a couple hundreds per clip, and the more commonplace one selling footage of decent quality at decent prices.

Playstock I am envisioning is directed towards amateur stock footage users, YouTubers, filmmakers, and content creators who need footage more affordable, accessible than the existing ones. And the footages we are looking for are widely and commonly-used and can be used for daily contexts, while still qualifying as ‘stock’.

We haven’t revealed the pricing plan and the royalty on the event page (and in my previous threads) because it is yet to be decided. It will be finalized by the results of the survey, which I have posted repeatedly on this website, asking for your help. We thought that it would be best to reflect your opinions as much as possible, and wanted to use the survey as a chance to connect with the contributors.

As of now we are leaning towards a $100 annual subscription plan of limited downloads (up to 1TB or 20 clips daily).

We are planning to take only 0-5% commission for the sales (excluding service maintenance fee) for the first year, and slowly increase it up to 20% depending on the website’s performance.

To clarify, we are not undermining your abilities as a stock creator or disregarding the quality and efforts put into your stock clips because we have opted for such pricing plans. We are simply attempting to broaden the range of stock content users by giving people a chance to experience utilizing stock at an affordable price and hence lowering the threshold of stock content. At the same time, we aim to increase accessibility and promote your previously unsold clips, especially those whose sales were stagnant due to their prices.

For more explanation and details about our service, please refer to the magazine section of our website: https://www.playstock.net/board_detail/5

Otherwise we are always open for enquiries, and can be contacted through [email protected].

noodle · « **Reply #30 on:** September 17, 2020, 21:35 »

Just a second

So for $100/ year subscription plan, a customer could theoretically dl over 7000 clips for the year ( assuming 20 dl/ day)
That’s $0.015 a clip

Even if a subscriber were to dl a fraction of the allowed limit, the royalties would still be a pittance

Am I missing something here?

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #31 on:** September 17, 2020, 21:41 »

Not many takers so far...

I honestly think that asking for uploads when you haven't decided on pricing is a huge mistake. How would anyone know what sort of content to give you when you won't say much more than "cheap-ish" vs "expensive-ish" regarding pricing?

Shelma1 · « **Reply #32 on:** September 18, 2020, 05:47 »

I feel all slimy just reading the “explanation” of how the site came to be. Blech.

Hannafate · « **Reply #33 on:** September 18, 2020, 07:57 »

Quote from: cliffordthebigreddog on September 17, 2020, 21:04

We are planning to take only 0-5% commission for the sales (excluding service maintenance fee) for the first year, and slowly increase it up to 20% depending on the website’s performance.

What is the service maintenance fee? This does not look like a viable business plan.

Tenebroso · « **Reply #34 on:** September 18, 2020, 08:42 »

You have opened a business, with a possible commission margin. In beta phase. Interesting.

marthamarks · « **Reply #35 on:** September 18, 2020, 08:45 »

Quote from: Hannafate on September 18, 2020, 07:57

What is the service maintenance fee? This does not look like a viable business plan.

To me, it looks DOA.

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #36 on:** September 18, 2020, 08:57 »

1) You set it up Playstock because "...we could never be 100% satisfied with what’s out there. We wanted to discover new, more varied sets of themes, subjects, types. We were constantly in need of a previously undiscovered, perspective-changing stock footage hidden somewhere deep in someone’s hard drive."

...which is great and all, but how does Playstock solve that issue? Just opening a new stock agency doesn't automatically mean you're going to get new and more varied themes, subjects and types of footage. Unless you have something up your sleeve that you've not yet disclosed, then there's no reason to assume your content selection won't be exactly the same as all the other agencies.

2) I'd rather you start with a higher percentage and put it down in the future.

3) 0 to 5% is worrying. I think most people are quite happy to get 50% or more as they have a vague understand of the cost involved in marketing and running a successful stock agency. If you insist on starting the commission low and putting it higher later, I think 20% to start and 40% when you're fully up and running would be better.

4) You need to stop with the TB nonsense! Go for number of downloads only. Seems like the TB allowance for downloads (and the portfolio size in TB on your survey) is purely as a way to figure out costs when it comes to hosting and transfers. That's fine from a planning standpoint, as it's an important cost to factor in to your business plan, but I can't see any benefit to using it as a download limit. Confusing for buyers... especially if they're hunting around or clips when they have 100MB left, for example. If you were taking more than 0 to 5% then you'd probably be able to worry a lot less about bandwidth charges.

5) The subscription fee is low. Even Envato Elements is around twice that for a year. So while your 'bumf' seems to indicate you're looking to market yourself on unique and diverse content, your prices indicate you're looking to purely compete on price.

6) I'd be happy to upload a chunk of my portfolio to give it a try. What's the worst that can happen... I don't make any sales, lose a bit of time, and I can stop uploading or remove my content. But I can't... as due to your incentive the terms state that whatever I upload is on your site forever. There's no way I'm doing that if you haven't yet fully decided on royalty rates and subscription fees. I probably wouldn't do it even if you had.

7) As a result... you should give the option to take the incentive and keep your content on forever (which people are unlikely to go for... unless they have a bunch of stolen content!), or not take the incentive and remove your content whenever you want.

I wish you well, but it's just not very appealing right now.

marthamarks · « **Reply #37 on:** September 18, 2020, 10:42 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on September 18, 2020, 08:57

I wish you well, but it's just not very appealing right now.

As I said: DOA.

zorba · « **Reply #38 on:** September 24, 2020, 17:59 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on September 18, 2020, 08:57

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as due to your incentive the terms state that whatever I upload is on your site forever. There's no way I'm doing that if you haven't yet fully decided on royalty rates and subscription fees. I probably wouldn't do it even if you had.

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I wish you well, but it's just not very appealing right now.

WHAT? FOREVER?

marthamarks · « **Reply #39 on:** September 24, 2020, 23:22 »

Quote from: zorba on September 24, 2020, 17:59

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on September 18, 2020, 08:57

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as due to your incentive the terms state that whatever I upload is on your site forever. There's no way I'm doing that if you haven't yet fully decided on royalty rates and subscription fees. I probably wouldn't do it even if you had.

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I wish you well, but it's just not very appealing right now.

WHAT? FOREVER?

Yep, apparently so.

DOA.

ccbcc · « **Reply #40 on:** September 25, 2020, 09:57 »

Quote from: cliffordthebigreddog on September 17, 2020, 21:04

As of now we are leaning towards a $100 annual subscription plan of limited downloads (up to 1TB or 20 clips daily).

We are planning to take only 0-5% commission for the sales (excluding service maintenance fee) for the first year, and slowly increase it up to 20% depending on the website’s performance.

Are you nuts? How about $100 per video sale instead?

I'd go for 50% commission though. I don't think you have any idea how much hosting will cost. My clips are a few GB each, because of 4k HQ ProRes.

Pixart · « **Reply #41 on:** September 25, 2020, 10:28 »

Quote from: Mantis on September 10, 2020, 08:13

"Any user who fails to provide accurate and sufficient information required for the Company to deliver royalties from their Content may not be compensated even if their Content has been sold, and the amount that has not been issued will be returned to the Company during year-end adjustments."

Yea, NO!!

"Playstock shall have the right to retain any unissued royalties and/or other compensation when you terminate your account." I would rethink this. It's a bad, unfair message sent to contributors.

Well, the first part is fair. If you don't give them your Paypal or other payment information how can you expect to get paid? It's the year-end part that is shady, there should be a grace period of say... 3-12 months from the last sale. If you lose your payment address (i.e. change email accounts) you should have a reasonable amount of time to update your payment details.

But the next statement on unissued royalties... boy this gets under my skin. I do believe this clause started in the beginning because the payouts could be small amounts that were greater than the amount occurred to send the final payment (Paypal/Skrill fees). If you have a balance in your account that is below a minimum threshold, an ETHICAL agency would charge an amount of $5 or less to administer this instead of crapping on someone who helped build their company in a small way.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #42 on:** October 23, 2020, 23:04 »

I checked the giveaway a few minutes ago - $19,408 left in the upload bonus pool

I think it's good that few people took them up on this offer as it was all too vague and handing over our valuable assets to folks with a half-baked story isn't a good plan...

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Author Topic: Calling for Entries at our NEW WEBSITE (Read 14327 times)

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