Author Topic: Adobe requesting people to submit images for dataset training (Read 19311 times)

cascoly · « **Reply #100 on:** October 06, 2023, 14:04 »

Quote from: Wilm on October 05, 2023, 15:50

Half of the images displayed on the first page for almost any search term are images "generated with AI". 5% of all images in the database are displayed as "generated with AI". ...

quick test - none of these are even 20% AI:
india
varanasi
rainer

mountaineering sherpa - a few of my Ai & others on 1st page, but still mostly non-AI

which search terms yield half AI?

if only 5% are in the AS collection, but half are displayed on 'almost any search term' that implies a seriously biased algorithm

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #101 on:** October 06, 2023, 14:40 »

Quote from: Wilm on October 05, 2023, 15:50

Half of the images displayed on the first page for almost any search term are images "generated with AI". 5% of all images in the database are displayed as "generated with AI".
The trend is crystal clear: AI is preferred. At some point, AI will generate images "generated with AI". Then there will be no need to pay for images. Maximum profit for agencies - that's the goal.

Wilm, the exciting question here is: Does Adobe actively push the images in the ranking or are AI images more popular and bought more often?

In the first case, it would be quite a slap in the face for the established contributors.

RalfLiebhold · « **Reply #102 on:** October 06, 2023, 14:54 »

Quote from: cascoly on October 06, 2023, 14:04

Quote from: Wilm on October 05, 2023, 15:50
Half of the images displayed on the first page for almost any search term are images "generated with AI". 5% of all images in the database are displayed as "generated with AI". ...
quick test - none of these are even 20% AI:
india
varanasi
rainer

mountaineering sherpa - a few of my Ai & others on 1st page, but still mostly non-AI

which search terms yield half AI?

if only 5% are in the AS collection, but half are displayed on 'almost any search term' that implies a seriously biased algorithm

Steve, I think this is more about general search terms than specific travel topics.

By the way, Sahara desert has an AI picture in 1st place and a few more on page 1. Most of the images are clearly recognizable as AI.

And what is this junk picture at the top about the Caribbean doing on page 1?

https://stock.adobe.com/de/search?filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aillustration%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Azip_vector%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Avideo%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Atemplate%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3A3d%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&order=relevance&safe_search=1&limit=100&search_page=1&k=karibik+strand&search_type=autosuggest&acp=1&aco=karibik&get_facets=0&asset_id=605913510

I can't really imagine that such a picture is really popular with buyers. Something else is going on in ranking AI.

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #103 on:** October 06, 2023, 15:18 »

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synthetick · « **Reply #104 on:** October 06, 2023, 17:13 »

Actually, Adobe changed their algorithm quite a few months ago to limit the amount of AI images showing up per page when no filters are selected. Otherwise it was getting a bit overwhelming apparently. I know this from a post made by an Adobe Staff member on their Discord server.

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #105 on:** October 11, 2023, 02:01 »

I am surprised no one has talked about the new mission yet?
500 to 1000 pictures of "a single individual in front of a greenscreen" for $80.
Minimum of 500 images of one person per submission.

I think this mission is even more bold of Adobe.
It requires a model including release and a green screen. The mission info also says the greenscreen must be a "solid greenscreen background with no wrinkles and shadows" so it will require a proper fixed greenscreen and not just some green cloth hanging on the wall and for the "no shadows" it require proper studio light equipment. So this seems like it's aimed more for the photographers with proper studio equipment.
I do have some studio equipment, but even for me these photos usually require lots of post-processing to make sure there are no wrinkles visible in the backdrop or no shadows.

And it comes down to a payment of $40 for 5000-1000 images per person involved in the shooting. I know the food missions also required a second person, but taking 50 photos of someone's hand choppong food is a different task than having one person do 500 different poses for the camera.

I am really curious to know how many professional studio photographers are willing to do 500+ photos for 40$. In my opinion the payment offered for this mission should have been much higher.

derby · « **Reply #106 on:** October 11, 2023, 02:49 »

I can't see anymore the "mission" option in my dashboard, so it seems that I was approved for only few days for previous missions, but now I'm out...
What??

Quote from: Her Ugliness on October 11, 2023, 02:01

I am surprised no one has talked about the new mission yet?

Maybe because, like me, many people can't see the mission?
By the way, I agree with you, it's really poor amount for so demanding work, I would not partecipate. It seems good only for someone that has already planned a green screen shooting, and can add this to his workflow

Her Ugliness · « **Reply #107 on:** October 11, 2023, 02:56 »

Quote from: derby on October 11, 2023, 02:49

I can't see anymore the "mission" option in my dashboard, so it seems that I was approved for only few days for previous missions, but now I'm out...
What??

Oh, that's strange. Since I did not take part in any of the last missions I thought there was no specific reason why I should get new missions, but others wouldn't, so I thought everyone had them.
Don't you have a new "missions" tab in your dashboard? It's in the black top line.

derby · « **Reply #108 on:** October 11, 2023, 02:58 »

Quote from: Her Ugliness on October 11, 2023, 02:56

Quote from: derby on October 11, 2023, 02:49
I can't see anymore the "mission" option in my dashboard, so it seems that I was approved for only few days for previous missions, but now I'm out...
What??

Oh, that's strange. Since I did not take part in any of the last missions I thought there was no specific reason why I should get new missions, but others wouldn't, so I thought everyone had them.
Don't you have a new "missions" tab in your dashboard? It's in the black top line.

Yes I had the "mission" tab last week, but now it's disappeared... I was also curious to know the new missions, but actually I cannot see the tab anymore

pancaketom · « **Reply #109 on:** October 11, 2023, 10:42 »

I had the missions last week, and kept the tab open, when I refreshed the page I got

"
{
"code": 113,
"message": "User is not a member of any mission request"
}
"

For the greenscreen one, if you had a good greenscreen setup in a studio you could just take video for a few minutes doing high speed poses and then pull every 10th image out or something similar to help train our replacements.