Author Topic: $1M investment into stock/graphic template business, wanna join as co-founder? (Read 31669 times)

increasingdifficulty · « **Reply #100 on:** October 20, 2016, 17:21 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on October 20, 2016, 17:17

It seems google were erm "inspired" by ebay

Well, everyone's inspired by the color wheel.

The fonts are quite different, as far as fonts go. After all, they all need to look like letters we can recognize. And not much to do about o and l.

DallasP · « **Reply #101 on:** October 20, 2016, 19:08 »

Whoa ... this derailed faster than most msg threads ...

Anyone bring an extra pitchfork? I left mine in the other bag.

pkphotos · « **Reply #102 on:** October 20, 2016, 19:29 »

I am happy to sell you my entire library for US250,000

Artist · « **Reply #103 on:** October 20, 2016, 20:55 »

Quote from: pkphotos on October 20, 2016, 19:29

I am happy to sell you my entire library for US250,000

and how big your library is? thats something big you are asking

DesignBold · « **Reply #104 on:** October 23, 2016, 17:32 »

Thank you Silv3r for making my point clearer:

I am not asking for investment, I just asked for the opinion about the licensing as well as tried to look for a good partner who can help me building the stocks program & growing a high quality stock library.

I shared my journey so that people can understand more about my business situation so that we will be on the same page, if I am lucky to find one.

Quote from: Justanotherphotographer on October 19, 2016, 12:18

"Sorry, this page isn't available

The link you followed may be broken, or the page may have been removed."

Facebook links to my account does not work to some people, you properly need to logged-in to view a Facebook profile. Here is my LinkedIn account

https://www.linkedin.com/in/hungdv

And a picture of me featured in our Forbes'cover.

I did not want to be anonymous and have any tricky plan. Perhaps I did not made myself clear as English is my second language.

Quote from: silv3r on October 20, 2016, 13:22

Quote from: ccbcc on October 20, 2016, 07:52
Quote from: DesignBold on October 19, 2016, 09:52
Hello big Investor

This is the Anonymous: http://www.facebook.com/hungstartup

Are you real, too?

Quote from: ccbcc on October 19, 2016, 09:42
Anonymous person on the internet, looking for big investors.

I'm anonymous but real. Also not looking for investors, because I would not do that anonymously. I would do that with my full name, because trustworthiness is one of the most important things for investors. They need to have confidence in you.

Of course, what I'm saying is pretty obvious. But if this is how you handle suggestions and critics, good luck.

You're link doesn't work. You're still anonymous.

If you had read his post more thoroughly you'd find that he wasn't looking for investors so much as the things he clearly stated.

1. This sentence makes it clear to me he is searching for help solving the stock image dilemma:

"I asked myself why I don't try to seek for opinion, support, advice how I should resolve the situation?"

2. This says to me he's interested in a partner that matches the criteria mentioned in his initial post, for an equity option; no investment needed:

is there anyone here would love to join the team as co-founder with equity option?

You must:
- Have access to a few million stock photos
- Have a wide connection with stock contributors
- Have experience and capability to build and grow the contributor program

3. This suggested to me that he's quite a real person, not an anonymous person with the negative connotations you're insinuating.

This is the Anonymous: http://www.facebook.com/hungstartup

CrFx · « **Reply #105 on:** October 23, 2016, 23:55 »

one question, why should we give opinion to you?

Pauws99 · « **Reply #106 on:** October 24, 2016, 01:37 »

Quote from: CrFx on October 23, 2016, 23:55

one question, why should we give opinion to you?

h'mm why should anyone give an opinion to anyone on here?....Its rather the point of a forum isn't it?

DesignBold · « **Reply #107 on:** October 24, 2016, 02:41 »

Quote from: CrFx on October 23, 2016, 23:55

one question, why should we give opinion to you?

That is why we are here right?

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #108 on:** October 24, 2016, 03:47 »

Quote from: CrFx on October 23, 2016, 23:55

one question, why should we give opinion to you?

Unless I've missed the odd post here and there, I don't think he asked for opinions. He's more looking for a partner to help grow the business for an equity split.

CrFx · « **Reply #109 on:** October 24, 2016, 04:28 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on October 24, 2016, 03:47

Quote from: CrFx on October 23, 2016, 23:55
one question, why should we give opinion to you?

Unless I've missed the odd post here and there, I don't think he asked for opinions. He's more looking for a partner to help grow the business for an equity split.

Yes he stared the thread with same and then shifted to more opinion section.
Person is showing huge money investment in buying resources and don't know how to progress? Is this a showbiz?

This guy isn't much aware about the stock image market. Buying not so good domain at such amount without proper market study and thinking to come here and ask everyone for the advise on how to run it successfully.
I also doubt his equity share is only a fake marketing tactics.

Anyka · « **Reply #110 on:** October 24, 2016, 04:38 »

The OP makes designs with stock photography and wants to know our opinion about how these photos should be paid :
- payment to the contributor (via agency 123rf) EVERY TIME some one buys the design (like Canva);
OR
- 1x Extended License for EVERY photo used in a design (even if it is NEVER SOLD).

123rf wants the extended license, which would cost him a HUGE amount of money, without knowing if any one would ever need/use the image.

Canva uses the first option, only Canva does not work with an agency. Canva works directly with the contributors and pays for EVERY single USE. The OP wants to do the same. This would mean that successful designs will mean lots of credits/payments to the contributor (through 123rf) and non-successful designs will just "exist", without payment to the OP, the Agency or the Contributor.
(unsuccessful designs however WILL cost the OP the working hours to create them).

The only mistake he made (I think) is to already make quite a lot of designs BEFORE discussing this important matter with 123rf.

My personal opinion would be Payment per download, not the extended license.
- In case of extended license, DesignBold will try to make LOTS of designs with the SAME images (= cheaper). After receiving the extended license, contributors will not receive extra payment if a design proves super-successful.
- In case of Payment per download, DesignBold can make as many designs as they want, using different images all the time, and the better they do this (and the more variety), the more successful their sales will be = better for everybody (including 123rf).
I may be wrong of course, but this is my humble but honest opinion.

The only thing that might be better for us contributors, is using the Canva method (work without an external agency), but for that he would need to hire a lot more personnel.

Beside that important question about which license, he is ALSO looking for a co-founder, but that is not his main problem right now. His main problem is the fact that 123rf asks for an EL for every image, even if it does not sell at all.

Did I get that right?

DesignBold · « **Reply #111 on:** October 24, 2016, 04:44 »

Thanks Anyka,

Your opinion is exactly what I want to hear. I see you are a Premium member, are you also a premium contributor to stock agencies like 123RF?

Quote from: Anyka on October 24, 2016, 04:38

The OP makes designs with stock photography and wants to know our opinion about how these photos should be paid :
- payment to the contributor (via agency 123rf) EVERY TIME some one buys the design (like Canva);
OR
- 1x Extended License for EVERY photo used in a design (even if it is NEVER SOLD).

123rf wants the extended license, which would cost him a HUGE amount of money, without knowing if any one would ever need/use the image.

Canva uses the first option, only Canva does not work with an agency. Canva works directly with the contributors and pays for EVERY single USE. The OP wants to do the same. This would mean that successful designs will mean lots of credits/payments to the contributor (through 123rf) and non-successful designs will just "exist", without payment to the OP, the Agency or the Contributor.
(unsuccessful designs however WILL cost the OP the working hours to create them).

The only mistake he made (I think) is to already make quite a lot of designs BEFORE discussing this important matter with 123rf.

My personal opinion would be Payment per download, not the extended license.
- In case of extended license, DesignBold will try to make LOTS of designs with the SAME images (= cheaper). After receiving the extended license, contributors will not receive extra payment if a design proves super-successful.
- In case of Payment per download, DesignBold can make as many designs as they want, using different images all the time, and the better they do this (and the more variety), the more successful their sales will be = better for everybody (including 123rf).
I may be wrong of course, but this is my humble but honest opinion.

The only thing that might be better for us contributors, is using the Canva method (work without an external agency), but for that he would need to hire a lot more personnel.

Beside that important question about which license, he is ALSO looking for a co-founder, but that is not his main problem right now. His main problem is the fact that 123rf asks for an EL for every image, even if it does not sell at all.

Did I get that right?

silv3r · « **Reply #112 on:** October 26, 2016, 21:10 »

Quote from: CrFx on October 23, 2016, 23:55

one question, why should we give opinion to you?

Why does anyone give anyone opinions? Ever heard of altruism?

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #113 on:** October 26, 2016, 21:21 »

Quote from: silv3r on October 26, 2016, 21:10

Quote from: CrFx on October 23, 2016, 23:55
one question, why should we give opinion to you?

Why does anyone give anyone opinions? Ever heard of altruism?

You can get a cream for that.

silv3r · « **Reply #114 on:** November 03, 2016, 20:00 »

It looks like he isn't doing too bad in business:
newbielink:https://www.facebook.com/designbolddotcom/videos/1584817978493210/ [nonactive]

Here's a video they made:
newbielink:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaUI5oRo5Y [nonactive]

Giveme5 · « **Reply #115 on:** November 03, 2016, 20:33 »

I do feel this guy is for real but I only have about one million Mexican Pecos from my five years in business and that is gone on newer equipment $:-\$

PureArt · « **Reply #116 on:** November 05, 2016, 16:18 »

DesignBold,

At https://www.designbold.com/contributor you write: "Once your layout is published, it will continue to earn credits every time it gets used." But what is the price, royalty? Let's say I register and create a layout and you sell it. How much $ do I get?

nd3000 · « **Reply #117 on:** November 08, 2016, 05:51 »

Everything has been said in this thread, you have your options on building your business laid down. How can we provide further assistance Mr.Ephoto?

You need somebody to invest? Here? - Not going to happen. If it is he would have contacted you by now and you two could have a private talk.

You need photos? Who is stupid enough to sell photos to you directly without having insurance that his work is being paid for every time you sell an image? Again, API and other options discussed above are the way to go.

At this moment it seems like you ought to become another stock agency. It might save you 3 exclusive millions.

Hannafate · « **Reply #118 on:** December 16, 2016, 16:58 »

I just checked out DesignBold, and I can't figure out how I'm supposed to make money with you. I know the big floaty pages with pop ups and frames and garblespeak is the style, but it still annoys and confuses me.

I didn't like having to sign up to (try to) get the information I was looking for about how to submit images.

I couldn't figure out what I was supposed to do to sell things through your site.

I got pissed off when I clicked on "contact", so ask for specifics, and it went to a forum. I tried "support center", and it went to the same forum.

I got REALLY pissed off when I wanted to remove my new account, and there was not a way to do that, the link went to the same forum.

If you want new images to sell people, you're going to have to make a better first impression on the people who make the images.

Don't you dare send me any spam.

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