Author Topic: Nikon D4 (Read 11999 times)

traveler1116 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 05, 2012, 23:04 »

Here you go: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7799914638/nikon-d4-overview/

cardmaverick · « **Reply #26 on:** January 06, 2012, 00:41 »

"Movies can also be shot at three different crops from the sensor, which Nikon is describing as FX, DX and 2.7X (native 1920x1080). This makes it easy to vary the field-of-view for grabbing footage, even if you’ve got a prime lens mounted. However, the ‘FX’ size is a significantly cropped version of the full sensor (it’s 91% of the sensor’s width), so the field-of-view will be a little narrower than you’d expect for any given focal length. Also the native 1920x1080 video will be higher quality than the FX and DX versions, since it hasn't been downsized. This difference is likely to be incredibly small (almost certainly irrelevant for most users), but is a consideration for high-end video users."

A windowed capture for video option is a step in the right direction! Too bad it will ruin you're ability to shoot anything wide angle :X

No word on how bad, or good, the shutter actually is. I'm still predicting super jell-o since they are not touting something like "global shutter" or "ultra fast rolling shutter" etc....

franky242 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 06, 2012, 13:17 »

Now the D4 is officially announced on the Nikon site: http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/product/digital-cameras/slr/professional/d4

wut · « **Reply #28 on:** January 06, 2012, 13:22 »

Quote from: holgs on January 05, 2012, 20:40

FWIW a $4 download on Dreamstime is a medium level 2 image - as an exclusive, most of my images that have been downloaded more than a handful of times are in the E+ collection, which ends up being more like an $8-12 commission for the photographer. An XXXL E+ image will be about $20-25 in commission, which on DT will get you a maximum of $11.88 at level 5 - there the difference to a medium size ($10) isn't so significant.

What you're forgetting (or skipping on purpose) is that you can only have a small percentage of photos in E+

. Taking that into account you actually make less if the average level of photos in a certain port is 3 or even 2 if you're a low level exclusive. I bet averaging level 2 or even 3 is a peace of cake for top contributors.

rinderart · « **Reply #29 on:** January 07, 2012, 00:14 »

And let me add. I used to review cameras back in 1999 on my website and for others until it became apparent that it was about banner ads and wasn't about the cameras at all

http://www.outbackphoto.com/reviews/equipment/Nikon_d2x_rinder/Nikon_d2x_review_note.html .

I beat out all the other reviews about this camera. I am also fortunate to get to process images and work on footage now from all of them for students as part of my one on One classes. I get to see all the cameras in a controlled environment. One of my good friends is the western US Rep for nikon and I get to see and get hands on, on everything Before the public does.

Im a major fan of Nikon and always have been in that format Only from the early 60's.

My feeling is nikon Dropped the ball with there ego Plain and simple and have been playing catch up for 3 years. canon has dominated the market since the MK2, Nikon thought 720P Video was the way to go. ...It wasn't and isn't. We are on to 4K now. DSLR video was a very cool thing. It's over. In 2 years The makers have made Camcorders in the $1,000 range that are much better and have much better options. Heres The theory of Nikon.
"Your gonna like it, because you have to like it"

Im not buying it anymore like I have for 20 years. The D2X was a Milestone, The D3 was a Flagship. And Im personally disappointed with the D4 specs. I expected more. I still get amazing images with my D3 all things being Equal and when a student comes in with a Mk2 All things being equal That is also a very fine camera. I don't do sports, I do studio portraiture and if I need to upgrade and spend another 5/6 thousand like I did on the D2x and D3? sorry... Like said i'll go back to med format and blow all these silly cameras away.And spend the money I can see on the screen and use a dedicated video system.

Just my Opinion.

And let me add one some of the best images i've seen were from a Doctor student a few weeks ago with a original 5D with adapted Leica glass. WOW. blew my old eyes away. very close to med format. it truly is about the optics.

antistock · « **Reply #30 on:** January 07, 2012, 00:31 »

i'm completely against video in a DSLR !

photo and video are two worlds apart.

and i'm also against video on the web !
the actual video trend is booming everywhere, 90% of the posts i see on FB are youtube videos.
and in online newspapers they're sticking videos everywhere leaving just a few lines of text.

now, if i wanted to see video i would switch on my TV rather than watching a sloppy lowres video.

it's all getting down the drain.
they can't write decent text so they put videos, and links to more useless unrelated articles, and then tons of untargeted and therefore useless advertising and Flash animations.

it's so bad that nowadays the only useful site left is wikipedia.

antistock · « **Reply #31 on:** January 07, 2012, 00:38 »

Quote from: rinderart on January 07, 2012, 00:14

My feeling is nikon Dropped the ball with there ego Plain and simple and have been playing catch up for 3 years. canon has dominated the market since the MK2, Nikon thought 720P Video was the way to go. ...It wasn't and isn't. We are on to 4K now. DSLR video was a very cool thing. It's over. In 2 years The makers have made Camcorders in the $1,000 range that are much better and have much better options. Heres The theory of Nikon.
"Your gonna like it, because you have to like it"

people buy nikon because of the ergonomics.
canon cameras are gay and simply feel like a toy in my hand.
all the females shooters i've seen so far use Canon.

the MK2 is popular because it's a lot cheaper than a D700 + FX lens, as simple as that, not to mention the higher MPixels !
i don't blame people for using the MK2 .. pricewise it's a winner, but so is Sony Alpha if that matters, and D7000, and ...

rinderart · « **Reply #32 on:** January 07, 2012, 01:11 »

Quote from: antistock on January 07, 2012, 00:31

i'm completely against video in a DSLR !

photo and video are two worlds apart.

and i'm also against video on the web !
the actual video trend is booming everywhere, 90% of the posts i see on FB are youtube videos.
and in online newspapers they're sticking videos everywhere leaving just a few lines of text.

now, if i wanted to see video i would switch on my TV rather than watching a sloppy lowres video.

it's all getting down the drain.
they can't write decent text so they put videos, and links to more useless unrelated articles, and then tons of untargeted and therefore useless advertising and Flash animations.

it's so bad that nowadays the only useful site left is wikipedia.

LOL

rinderart · « **Reply #33 on:** January 07, 2012, 01:14 »

Quote from: antistock on January 07, 2012, 00:38

Quote from: rinderart on January 07, 2012, 00:14
My feeling is nikon Dropped the ball with there ego Plain and simple and have been playing catch up for 3 years. canon has dominated the market since the MK2, Nikon thought 720P Video was the way to go. ...It wasn't and isn't. We are on to 4K now. DSLR video was a very cool thing. It's over. In 2 years The makers have made Camcorders in the $1,000 range that are much better and have much better options. Heres The theory of Nikon.
"Your gonna like it, because you have to like it"

people buy nikon because of the ergonomics.
canon cameras are gay and simply feel like a toy in my hand.
all the females shooters i've seen so far use Canon.

the MK2 is popular because it's a lot cheaper than a D700 + FX lens, as simple as that, not to mention the higher MPixels !
i don't blame people for using the MK2 .. pricewise it's a winner, but so is Sony Alpha if that matters, and D7000, and ...

Funny you said that. Im not saying this as sexist in any way but In all my Workshops and One on One classes { Over 220} the overwhelming users of canon in every instance was women. and the same for men and nikon.

never figured that out. LOL

RacePhoto · « **Reply #34 on:** January 07, 2012, 03:13 »

Just for those people who want to look at prices and specs. $5999.95 at BH

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=d4+nikon&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

As for size and all that. I'm still happy with the 40D but I want something newer for when the shutter decides to become too old. On the 10D the camera was on it's third time around the numbers one year. That's what? 30,000 images? And I think I turned over the 40D two or three times in 2011. Reminds me I need to reset to zero for the new year.

Anyway, what's the shutter life? New D4 will last longer and has some benefits. (but none for me I shoot Canon) Same as the 1Dx which I don't need either.

How big do we really need the images in MP to equal film? And then larger and larger file sizes to process, means bigger computers with more power and memory. Where does it end?

PaulieWalnuts · « **Reply #35 on:** January 07, 2012, 05:35 »

Quote from: antistock on January 07, 2012, 00:38

Quote from: rinderart on January 07, 2012, 00:14
My feeling is nikon Dropped the ball with there ego Plain and simple and have been playing catch up for 3 years. canon has dominated the market since the MK2, Nikon thought 720P Video was the way to go. ...It wasn't and isn't. We are on to 4K now. DSLR video was a very cool thing. It's over. In 2 years The makers have made Camcorders in the $1,000 range that are much better and have much better options. Heres The theory of Nikon.
"Your gonna like it, because you have to like it"

people buy nikon because of the ergonomics.
canon cameras are gay and simply feel like a toy in my hand.
all the females shooters i've seen so far use Canon.

the MK2 is popular because it's a lot cheaper than a D700 + FX lens, as simple as that, not to mention the higher MPixels !
i don't blame people for using the MK2 .. pricewise it's a winner, but so is Sony Alpha if that matters, and D7000, and ...

Yep, every sports event I see on TV always shows pro Canon equipment with a female behind it.

And yes, that Nikon stuff is manly. The moment I picked up a Nikon for the first time I suddenly grew hair on my hand and had the strong desire to start doing high-fives and fist-bumps.

ETA: Almost forgot... [Fist-bump]

antistock · « **Reply #36 on:** January 07, 2012, 05:43 »

Quote from: rinderart on January 07, 2012, 01:14

Funny you said that. Im not saying this as sexist in any way but In all my Workshops and One on One classes { Over 220} the overwhelming users of canon in every instance was women. and the same for men and nikon. never figured that out. LOL

of course.
canon is gay par excellence.
it's designed for girls, especially the low-end models.

rubyroo · « **Reply #37 on:** January 07, 2012, 06:06 »

Canon for girls and Nikon for boys? I demand a poll!

I have no idea how to create one though. Would somebody be so kind?

luissantos84 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 07, 2012, 09:16 »

Quote from: antistock on January 07, 2012, 00:31

i'm completely against video in a DSLR !

photo and video are two worlds apart.

and i'm also against video on the web !
the actual video trend is booming everywhere, 90% of the posts i see on FB are youtube videos.
and in online newspapers they're sticking videos everywhere leaving just a few lines of text.

now, if i wanted to see video i would switch on my TV rather than watching a sloppy lowres video.

it's all getting down the drain.
they can't write decent text so they put videos, and links to more useless unrelated articles, and then tons of untargeted and therefore useless advertising and Flash animations.

it's so bad that nowadays the only useful site left is wikipedia.

thats called evolution and believe you are a minority thinking that way.. youtube gotta be one of the most visited websites.. myself have it open all day long perhaps that why I keep tons of pictures pending

luissantos84 · « **Reply #39 on:** January 09, 2012, 12:23 »

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R6axRwT5V8[/youtube]

LOOOL

WarrenPrice · « **Reply #40 on:** January 09, 2012, 12:29 »

Quote from: rubyroo on January 07, 2012, 06:06

Canon for girls and Nikon for boys? I demand a poll!

I have no idea how to create one though. Would somebody be so kind?

Yeah... we need another poll.

The never-ending-debate will never end.

PS: I have one of each. Buying the T2i must be my sensitive side showing.

rubyroo · « **Reply #41 on:** January 09, 2012, 12:35 »

It's always good to keep your options open.

I can (very happily) live without the poll if no-one wants to do it. I just hadn't heard that assertion before and it made me curious to see if it would stand up to scrutiny among MSG bods.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 10, 2012, 12:12 »

Nikon D4 vs Canon 1D-X

http://www.digitalrev.com/article/nikon-d4-vs-canon-1d/NTQ1Mzg4Mw_A_A

SNP · « **Reply #43 on:** January 10, 2012, 12:35 »

I shoot D3X and I'm a girl.....Nikon was simply my first camera. when it came to going full frame, I considered switching, but I've just never connected with Canon. If I had switched, I'd have started with the 5DMKII....it's a solid full frame camera.

as for the D4....to me it's of little interest. but for pro shooters using the D3S I think it will be attractive. HD video and higher MP will be a big draw for editorial video shooters

Cogent Marketing · « **Reply #44 on:** January 10, 2012, 12:49 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on January 10, 2012, 12:12

Nikon D4 vs Canon 1D-X

http://www.digitalrev.com/article/nikon-d4-vs-canon-1d/NTQ1Mzg4Mw_A_A

Thanks, but doesn't highlight anything different to what we already heard earlier last week.

I'm looking forward to reading the Ken Rockwell review once done on the D4 (and maybe the Canon 1DX too - he does do other reviews other than Nikon). It was his review last year on the D700 that swayed me from buying the D3 as our main studio camera. A few people are guessing that the D800 (rumour only at the moment) might well cannibalise sales of the D4 in the same way - and at less than half the price assuming it follows the same pattern of the D700/D3. It'll be an exciting year in regard to seeing what happens.

ETA.

Bless my socks Ken's already posted the review. Time for a small beer now as I read it. You can see it here.

http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/d4.htm

ETA (again)
Mr Rockwell has a link for the rumoured D800 as well. He appears to suggest it will cannibalise sales of the over-priced D3X

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d800.htm

OM · « **Reply #45 on:** January 10, 2012, 18:17 »

Quote from: luissantos84 on January 09, 2012, 12:23

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R6axRwT5V8[/youtube]

LOOOL

It's far too big for her small hands!

luissantos84 · « **Reply #46 on:** January 10, 2012, 19:07 »

making the camera even bigger, I enjoy the awkward mouth moves too

OM · « **Reply #47 on:** January 10, 2012, 19:39 »

Quote from: rinderart on January 07, 2012, 00:14

And let me add one some of the best images i've seen were from a Doctor student a few weeks ago with a original 5D with adapted Leica glass. WOW. blew my old eyes away. very close to med format. it truly is about the optics.

That is the biggest thing for me when I change from Nikon to Canon............the ability to use others lenses with adapter which is not possible with Nikon.
I know it's not fast to work with but for studio stills it is appealing.

RT · « **Reply #48 on:** January 11, 2012, 11:51 »

I think one things clear - the pixel race is over.

wut · « **Reply #49 on:** January 11, 2012, 11:59 »

Quote from: OM on January 10, 2012, 18:17

Quote from: luissantos84 on January 09, 2012, 12:23
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R6axRwT5V8[/youtube]

LOOOL

It's far too big for her small hands!

Yeah, Nikon would be better off putting it in a sumo wrestler's hands

. At least the camera wouldn't almost look bigger than the person holding it

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