Author Topic: $0.25 versus $0.38 (Read 15975 times)

4Ever Young · « **Reply #25 on:** February 17, 2013, 11:53 »

I think the question that the agencies are trying to answer is "How little can we pay them and still get decent quality files from them?"
We have already proven to them that we will work for peanuts. The question is just how few peanuts will we continue to work for?
We will all have to answer that one for ourselves.

They don't give us a cut out of the goodness of their hearts...they do it because they think we won't work for free.
If we continue to upload quality work when they drive it down to 2 CENTS commission....then that is what we will all eventually be paid.
That, dear friends, is why I submit to 8 different agencies and I am nobody's "exclusive". Loyalty is a 2 way street.

Personally, and before that happens, I hope there will be some new kind of photographic Ebay type of arrangement, where the marketing agency is the one making 15%, not us. I could be loyal to that.

tab62 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 17, 2013, 11:55 »

Actually, if you do the math it is over 34% pay cut! $:-\$

cthoman · « **Reply #27 on:** February 17, 2013, 12:50 »

Quote from: tab62 on February 17, 2013, 11:08

I haven't had a pay raise in over 4 years, they are talking about a furlough this year where I have to give up 11 days pay plus a possible 5% pay cut, my property taxes have gone up each year, gasoline has gone up, my food has gone up, my medical has gone up, my kids college tuition has gone up, my auto insurance has gone up, my heating utilities has gone up AND NOW YOU WANT ME TO GIVE UP $500 a month on my SUBS in Microstock to make the MS Companies RICHER? I am trying my best to not use a COLORFUL METAPHOR on this site!

I realize everybody has their own situation, finances, business strategy, etc. I knew this wasn't going to be a popular topic, and it wasn't my intention to insult or belittle anyone.
I'm also not asking anybody to give up anything. In fact, I think everybody should earn more (a lot more). I was just looking at the numbers and thought it was interesting how many downloads it takes for the 13 cent difference between $.25 and $.38 to add up to something desirable.

I can't tell anybody when that 13 cents adds up to a significant amount of money for them. Only they can decide that for themselves. I'd love to have an extra $500 a month and would hate to lose that amount too, but I don't sell anywhere near 4000 files a month and probably won't ever. So, that 13 cents really wouldn't ever add up to much for me.

That's why I try to focus on things that will like higher prices, better royalties, and no subscriptions. So when I saw the Bigstock announcement, I wasn't really upset that they were paying me less than Shutterstock. I was upset that they were adding subscriptions at all. I felt the same way about Thinkstock too.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #28 on:** February 17, 2013, 13:09 »

Quote from: 4Ever Young on February 17, 2013, 11:53

I think the question that the agencies are trying to answer is "How little can we pay them and still get decent quality files from them?"

I think you're right about that. They have reached their limit from me. I am uploading pics I already shot, but haven't shot anything new in months. No incentive to.

Shooting good stock costs money, and right now it's a waste of time to invest that money in shooting more pictures, only to have them undervalued. Maybe if I see my income start to go up instead of down I will start shooting new stuff again.

tab62 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 17, 2013, 13:18 »

Just got my notice (via email so personal) I am on stand by for a layout (RIF- Reduction in Force). So, Yes, .13C is important to me.

What I will never understand is why I cannot withdraw from my 401K without paying the IRS a 10% penalty due to not being 59.5 years old? So it is okay for me to lose my house, wife and everything around me due to being laid off which was out of my control.

I can only wait and see if the RIF goes into effect by early March.

Tom

Poncke · « **Reply #30 on:** February 17, 2013, 13:23 »

Why would you lose your wife and everything around you? I thought that was only in the movies where people lose their wife because you got fired. I thought in real life wives stand by their husband in tough times?

I am sorry to hear you got laid off, that is a terrible thing to happen to you in these times.

tab62 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 17, 2013, 13:31 »

I think my third wife will stand by but I lost two wives to similar situations. Got fired from my bank job on my first and she basically had my divorce papers in days and I lost a 2nd job which was the main cause for my 2nd divorce. Finances are the biggest killer of any relationship in my eyes.

PixelBytes · « **Reply #32 on:** February 17, 2013, 13:36 »

Quote from: tab62 on February 17, 2013, 13:31

I think my third wife will stand by but I lost two wives to similar situations. Got fired from my bank job on my first and she basically had my divorce papers in days and I lost a 2nd job which was the main cause for my 2nd divorce. Finances are the biggest killer of any relationship in my eyes.

Sad to hear. Financial problems can put a lot of stress on a marriage, for sure.

But keep a positive attitude, if you can. Most of us have been there and can relate to what you're going through. I am sure there will be another job out there for you, and in the short term, between unemployment payments and micro, hopefully you can scrape by.

BTW, does your wife work outside the home?

Poncke · « **Reply #33 on:** February 17, 2013, 13:59 »

Seriously, people need to stop sticking a minus on comments with a normal question. I am not dissing Tom, Im just asking a normal goddamn question.

Poncke · « **Reply #34 on:** February 17, 2013, 14:02 »

Quote from: tab62 on February 17, 2013, 13:31

I think my third wife will stand by but I lost two wives to similar situations. Got fired from my bank job on my first and she basically had my divorce papers in days and I lost a 2nd job which was the main cause for my 2nd divorce. Finances are the biggest killer of any relationship in my eyes.

Ok, I havent met anyone yet who's relationship ended over losing a job. I guess its a different culture. Thats why I thought its only a thing from the movies. I hope it all works out for you.

Edit: 4 minus for sharing my experience and wishing Tom the best? There must be a few lurking trolls just messing things up. You know who you are.

cthoman · « **Reply #35 on:** February 17, 2013, 14:44 »

Sorry about your job. Hopefully, something new will come along soon.

ShadySue · « **Reply #36 on:** February 17, 2013, 14:55 »

Quote from: Poncke on February 17, 2013, 14:02

Quote from: tab62 on February 17, 2013, 13:31
I think my third wife will stand by but I lost two wives to similar situations. Got fired from my bank job on my first and she basically had my divorce papers in days and I lost a 2nd job which was the main cause for my 2nd divorce. Finances are the biggest killer of any relationship in my eyes.
Ok, I havent met anyone yet who's relationship ended over losing a job. I guess its a different culture. Thats why I thought its only a thing from the movies. I hope it all works out for you.

Probably lurvvvve is only a thing from the movies.

In the US, finance is the 4th most usual reason given for divorce:
http://www.top10stop.com/lifestyle/top-10-reasons-for-divorce-and-marriage-breakdowns-stats-from-the-us

I think I read a while back that finance was no 2 or 3 in the UK, but more recently it seems that many Brits are "delaying divorce because of the recession".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/aug/31/divorce-family-finances

qwerty · « **Reply #37 on:** February 18, 2013, 04:44 »

have you seen the pricing for subscriptions at bigstock

5 per day = $69 per month.

xl normally 6 credits each, 4 XL images for $49.

I can see alot of buyers moving to subscriptions with pricing like that.

You can also get 200 a day subscription what

12 months $10979
what on earth are you going to do with 73000 stock photos a year ?

OM · « **Reply #38 on:** February 18, 2013, 05:50 »

Ancient history perhaps but George Carlin had it figured out a while ago.

Don't like bad language? Don't watch!


George Carlin -"Who Really Controls America"

Poncke · « **Reply #39 on:** February 18, 2013, 08:50 »

There must be a few lurking trolls just messing things up. You know who you are.

MisterElements · « **Reply #40 on:** February 18, 2013, 09:04 »

I'm bridge so I have 6 months at .38 but the moment I go down to .26 or .27 I'm

happily leaving BigStock and opting out of the bridge program.

tickstock · « **Reply #41 on:** February 18, 2013, 09:44 »

qwerty · « **Reply #42 on:** February 19, 2013, 02:55 »

Quote from: tickstock on February 18, 2013, 09:44

Quote from: qwerty on February 18, 2013, 04:44
You can also get 200 a day subscription what 12 months $10979
what on earth are you going to do with 73000 stock photos a year ?
Start your very own heroturko? Sell thousands of DVDs on the streets of Bangkok?

I guess nothing legal or morally correct

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