Author Topic: What's your weekly ranking and how many images? (Read 91322 times)

cobalt · « **Reply #825 on:** September 06, 2024, 00:10 »

How long have you been uploading?

Is this a very new port? It takes time for buyers to find your content.

Or did you perhaps not upload for a long time? Not uploading regularly makes your port invisible to customers.

If you would like more detailed suggestions, just give us a link to your port and we can all pitch in.

Also how much do you upload every week, what is your genre etc…

Your sales can be improved.

blvdone · « **Reply #826 on:** September 06, 2024, 07:23 »

Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 18:35

Quote from: blvdone on September 05, 2024, 18:05
Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 11:38

How many images do you have?
3826 images.

That's pretty bad honestly. Maybe you are creating images you like and not necessarily the images people would want to buy and use. Often the most boring images sell more than the beautiful images because of market saturation and lack of demand.

cobalt · « **Reply #827 on:** September 06, 2024, 08:29 »

Dropping a bit on similar volume. However what I really enjoy is that every day I sell something for the first time. Sometimes very, very old images from 2013 come to life, sometimes it is something that was accepted 2 days ago.

Total volume of sales hasn't really changed, summer moving out, autumn and winter moving in, not enough content that is independent of seasons.

I am working on it.

alexandersr · « **Reply #828 on:** September 06, 2024, 08:38 »

Quote from: blvdone on September 06, 2024, 07:23

Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 18:35
Quote from: blvdone on September 05, 2024, 18:05
Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 11:38

How many images do you have?
3826 images.

That's pretty bad honestly. Maybe you are creating images you like and not necessarily the images people would want to buy and use. Often the most boring images sell more than the beautiful images because of market saturation and lack of demand.

Maybe!

blvdone · « **Reply #829 on:** September 06, 2024, 08:55 »

Quote from: alexandersr on September 06, 2024, 08:38

Quote from: blvdone on September 06, 2024, 07:23
Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 18:35
Quote from: blvdone on September 05, 2024, 18:05
Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 11:38

How many images do you have?
3826 images.

That's pretty bad honestly. Maybe you are creating images you like and not necessarily the images people would want to buy and use. Often the most boring images sell more than the beautiful images because of market saturation and lack of demand.

Maybe!

I think this video and his channel may help you to create images that sell more.

https://youtu.be/1_WCP9RxpkU?si=7xIkZAcTOtluCVEq

alexandersr · « **Reply #830 on:** September 06, 2024, 09:36 »

Quote from: blvdone on September 06, 2024, 08:55

Quote from: alexandersr on September 06, 2024, 08:38
Quote from: blvdone on September 06, 2024, 07:23
Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 18:35
Quote from: blvdone on September 05, 2024, 18:05
Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 11:38

How many images do you have?
3826 images.

That's pretty bad honestly. Maybe you are creating images you like and not necessarily the images people would want to buy and use. Often the most boring images sell more than the beautiful images because of market saturation and lack of demand.

Maybe!

I think this video and his channel may help you to create images that sell more.

https://youtu.be/1_WCP9RxpkU?si=7xIkZAcTOtluCVEq

Thanks! I will watch the video!

alexandersr · « **Reply #831 on:** September 06, 2024, 09:39 »

Quote from: cobalt on September 06, 2024, 00:10

How long have you been uploading?

Is this a very new port? It takes time for buyers to find your content.

Or did you perhaps not upload for a long time? Not uploading regularly makes your port invisible to customers.

If you would like more detailed suggestions, just give us a link to your port and we can all pitch in.

Also how much do you upload every week, what is your genre etc…

Your sales can be improved.

Hello,thanks for your suggestions! I haven't uploaded images since February 2024. I started with Fotolia. I don't have AI content. I only have photos, 3D renders, vectors and 3 videos. I didn't make more images because I watch too much AI content and don't use it. My images do not have recognizable people, only the hands of one of them.

cobalt · « **Reply #832 on:** September 06, 2024, 10:48 »

Hands doing something is usually a theme that sells well. If you document daily life processes, cooking cleaning, repairing the bicycle, building furniture, working in the garden, hands of a nurse helping people...it usually sells.

If you want regular sales, you must upload regularly, ideally every week, minimum every month.

If you give us a link we can give more useful suggestions.

There are a lot of people here with experience.

You don't need to do any ai, lots of people making money with no ai in port.

Maybe think of a good video theme to keep working on. There is a lot less content with video, lots of areas wide open.

Recognizable people with a model release still is the best moneymaker.

Have you considered doing editorial video with people? There is a thread on pond5 where people share sales and there is a lot of editorial people in there.

The main issue is: how much time are you ready to invest.

In terms of absolute money you will make money much faster if you do other things.

Stock sales grow very slowly.

So for some people doing it as a hobby and just uploading their hobby images is the best solution.

alexandersr · « **Reply #833 on:** September 06, 2024, 12:02 »

Quote from: cobalt on September 06, 2024, 10:48

Hands doing something is usually a theme that sells well. If you document daily life processes, cooking cleaning, repairing the bicycle, building furniture, working in the garden, hands of a nurse helping people...it usually sells.

If you want regular sales, you must upload regularly, ideally every week, minimum every month.

If you give us a link we can give more useful suggestions.

There are a lot of people here with experience.

You don't need to do any ai, lots of people making money with no ai in port.

Maybe think of a good video theme to keep working on. There is a lot less content with video, lots of areas wide open.

Recognizable people with a model release still is the best moneymaker.

Have you considered doing editorial video with people? There is a thread on pond5 where people share sales and there is a lot of editorial people in there.

The main issue is: how much time are you ready to invest.

In terms of absolute money you will make money much faster if you do other things.

Stock sales grow very slowly.

So for some people doing it as a hobby and just uploading their hobby images is the best solution.

Thank you very much!

Injustice for all · « **Reply #834 on:** September 07, 2024, 04:14 »

Bad week.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #835 on:** September 07, 2024, 04:50 »

Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 11:38

3826 images

my week is not very far from yours,but I have much more content,so worse for me!

I believe you live in Venezuela,I have family in Maracaibo,I lived in Venezuela in 1993 when life was good there,then I returned to Italy when I was called up to the army.

come on,hold on,Maduro's government is coming to an end!

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #836 on:** September 07, 2024, 11:23 »

Quote from: cobalt on September 06, 2024, 00:10

Or did you perhaps not upload for a long time? Not uploading regularly makes your port invisible to customers.

Quote from: cobalt on September 06, 2024, 10:48

If you want regular sales, you must upload regularly, ideally every week, minimum every month.

Really? It's that easy and all I have to do is upload more often and I'll get better placement. If I don't, I'll be "invisible"? How does that work, when the images get their rank in the first 30 days and don't change much after that. Is there some secret system that you know about that's different than what Adobe tells us.

Does being a featured artist help or hurt? That seems to be a controversy now.

Maybe having free images, gives me an unfair advantage over people who don't allow free images?

Or maybe that's just my imagination and I'm making things up.

cobalt · « **Reply #837 on:** September 07, 2024, 12:21 »

It is very simple: customers who buy regularly always search "newest" content. I was a buyer, that is what I would do.

If you have no content in the newest image stream, you are invisible.

Just talk to people who buy regularly how they do their searches.

Repeat customers know their genre very well and they always need fresh content. They avoid the "popular" search because those files have often been downloaded thousands of times.

Last year when I was on the popular list I certainly had a strong increase in sales. But perhaps if you get featured four times like mifornia, that will attract extreme copy cats.

I think it would be fine if we could only be featured once per year per category. Gives more artists a chance to be featured.

Free images certainly help for portfolio visibility, I hope they take many of mine.

Getting sales is no secret magic. Just upload what CUSTOMERS like to buy and you have sales.

It is only about them.

eta

pos 3610, dropping but on similar volume to last week, so I guess overall sales are picking up. 6k files

alexandersr · « **Reply #838 on:** September 07, 2024, 13:25 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on September 07, 2024, 04:50

Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 11:38
3826 images

my week is not very far from yours,but I have much more content,so worse for me!

I believe you live in Venezuela,I have family in Maracaibo,I lived in Venezuela in 1993 when life was good there,then I returned to Italy when I was called up to the army.

come on,hold on,Maduro's government is coming to an end!

Yes , i live in Venezuela, nowadays life is not so good here!

mike123 · « **Reply #839 on:** September 07, 2024, 14:35 »

Just to hopefully debunk some of the theories I see here

: I never offered free images and since 2020 I upload around 20 files per year and I'm still regularly below rank 4000 with less than 1k files.

cobalt · « **Reply #840 on:** September 07, 2024, 14:58 »

You are boosting the theory that anyone who started uploading 20 years ago has a forever advantage in the algos.

blvdone · « **Reply #841 on:** September 07, 2024, 16:06 »

Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 11:38

3826 images

This is actually a very useful info. This ranking of 37,400th puts 1,100th at least in top 3%. Probably it's more like 1,000th is top 2%. I think there are 50,000 contributors out there at least.

mike123 · « **Reply #842 on:** September 07, 2024, 16:26 »

Quote from: cobalt on September 07, 2024, 14:58

You are boosting the theory that anyone who started uploading 20 years ago has a forever advantage in the algos.

Lol

cobalt · « **Reply #843 on:** September 08, 2024, 02:07 »

Quote from: blvdone on September 07, 2024, 16:06

Quote from: alexandersr on September 05, 2024, 11:38
3826 images

This is actually a very useful info. This ranking of 37,400th puts 1,100th at least in top 3%. Probably it's more like 1,000th is top 2%. I think there are 50,000 contributors out there at least.

Back when Shutterstock published more stats they would boast they had over 200 000 producers.

Eyeem boasts they have millions because anyone registered can offer files for sale. Same for Adobe, anyone with an Adobe account can very easily offer files for Adobestock.

The other way to look at it is to collect numbers of people registered in stock social media groups or forums like here.

msg has over 50k, but there are many boards or groups with over 100k members, many also specific to other languages.

I am sure that worldwide there are far more than 2 million people registered.

But are they all active? Probably not.

When I do my searches I keep finding the most interesting content from well known names.

Personally I think there are around 30k regular uploaders with relevant content and maybe 10000 that can make a full time living, depending on where in the world they live.

People who make a full time living only from Adobe, that is probably a small group, maybe 1000. If you have European or large city living costs, then probably less than 500.

For most producers stock is a side income to their dayjob. Which is probably the best way to do it.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #844 on:** September 08, 2024, 05:12 »

Quote from: mike123 on September 07, 2024, 14:35

Just to hopefully debunk some of the theories I see here : I never offered free images and since 2000 I upload around 20 files per year and I'm still regularly below rank 4000 with less than 1k files.

if true,it is very useful information and shows that if you have a solid portfolio it is not worn down by time.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #845 on:** September 08, 2024, 05:29 »

Quote from: cobalt on September 07, 2024, 14:58

You are boosting the theory that anyone who started uploading 20 years ago has a forever advantage in the algos.

why do you still have doubts about it?

Of course,those who started first have an advantage,as they should,simply because the files have been online longer and have had time to accumulate more sales.

In 4 years I will earn much more per month than I do now,why?What did I mainly need in the end? Time.

why did I achieve 50% more sales in August 2024 compared to August 2023?and 45% more in July,or if you want January 73% more sales compared to January 2023,what has changed according to you so much that I made 73% more sales?

my portfolio didn't change much between January 2023 and January 2024,how do you think I managed to obtain a 73% increase in the number of sales?

time in microstock is a main element,together with what is produced,the quantity and indexing of the content,plus a pinch of luck,you need a bit of that too!

amabu · « **Reply #846 on:** September 08, 2024, 05:33 »

Quote from: mike123 on September 07, 2024, 14:35

Just to hopefully debunk some of the theories I see here : I never offered free images and since 2000 I upload around 20 files per year and I'm still regularly below rank 4000 with less than 1k files.

Fotolia wasn't even founded in 2000...

mike123 · « **Reply #847 on:** September 08, 2024, 06:19 »

Quote from: amabu on September 08, 2024, 05:33

Quote from: mike123 on September 07, 2024, 14:35
Just to hopefully debunk some of the theories I see here : I never offered free images and since 2000 I upload around 20 files per year and I'm still regularly below rank 4000 with less than 1k files.

Fotolia wasn't even founded in 2000...

Just seen my typo, sorry

.
I meant to say 2020. Basically since SS cut royalties in 2020, I stopped producing quality content for microstock.

cobalt · « **Reply #848 on:** September 08, 2024, 08:50 »

@injustice

I have no doubts that in time sales grow because customers need time to finalize their projects. Many of my series only really start to sell regularly after 18 months, see example below.

But I doubt that the 1300 files I uploaded 11 years ago, followed by a gigantic break, gives me such an extreme advantage.

Especially if I compare my sales with people who have been uploading consistently, now have 20k files, but less sales than me.

They should all be outselling me, but they are not.

However in all the cases I have come across it is ports that are produce centric i.e. the producer is uploading their personal favorite files and not buyer centric, i.e. they have a targeted a buyer group, spend a lot of time on research try to to plug the niches or at lest have a systematic approach in growing their ports.

So...time spent on research beats time in having "anything" online.

And newbies can outsell a 20 year old port if they find the right customer group.

Here is a very simple photo, not ai, that only started to sell regularly now. Uploaded in Sept 22, it only had one sale in all of 23, now it has 18 downloads. Nothing special about it, also not seasonal. It just took time from being collected and lightboxed to being used.

I sincerely hope 2025 is much better than 24, although i doubt i will have over 100% month on month again.

alexandersr · « **Reply #849 on:** September 08, 2024, 12:44 »

Quote from: cobalt on September 08, 2024, 08:50

@injustice

I have no doubts that in time sales grow because customers need time to finalize their projects. Many of my series only really start to sell regularly after 18 months, see example below.

But I doubt that the 1300 files I uploaded 11 years ago, followed by a gigantic break, gives me such an extreme advantage.

Especially if I compare my sales with people who have been uploading consistently, now have 20k files, but less sales than me.

They should all be outselling me, but they are not.

However in all the cases I have come across it is ports that are produce centric i.e. the producer is uploading their personal favorite files and not buyer centric, i.e. they have a targeted a buyer group, spend a lot of time on research try to to plug the niches or at lest have a systematic approach in growing their ports.

So...time spent on research beats time in having "anything" online.

And newbies can outsell a 20 year old port if they find the right customer group.

Here is a very simple photo, not ai, that only started to sell regularly now. Uploaded in Sept 22, it only had one sale in all of 23, now it has 18 downloads. Nothing special about it, also not seasonal. It just took time from being collected and lightboxed to being used.

I sincerely hope 2025 is much better than 24, although i doubt i will have over 100% month on month again.

Is this should be help?
https://blog.adobe.com/en/publish/2023/12/07/adobe-stock-2024-creative-trends-forecast-innovation-inspiration
https://helpx.adobe.com/es/stock/contributor/help/artist-hub-migration/creat-what-s-in-demand.html

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