Author Topic: What's your weekly ranking and how many images? (Read 77607 times)

cobalt · « **Reply #975 on:** October 08, 2024, 08:52 »

The files are clearly labelled as ai, why would a travel guide fill it with fake pictures?

Their rating would be abysmal, people would easily notice.

There is plenty of creative commercial content created in photoshop with a mix of images from different locations.

Ai didn't start "faking", it is just an extension of what can be done in photoshop or illustrator anyway.

Loads of "vacation" images that are completely fake and don't depict a real place.

Labelling these fake creations as a specific place is wrong, wether you do it in photoshop or ai.

Ai actually has the advantage of being clearly labelled.

Bauman · « **Reply #976 on:** October 08, 2024, 09:00 »

Quote from: cobalt on October 08, 2024, 08:52

Ai actually has the advantage of being clearly labelled.

It is clearly labelled from the agencies that sell it, but not from those who use it.

And the problem was: why is AI reviewed and photos and videos not?

Bauman · « **Reply #977 on:** October 08, 2024, 09:04 »

Quote from: cobalt on October 08, 2024, 08:52

There is plenty of creative commercial content created in photoshop with a mix of images from different locations.

And I don't agree with accepting these images if the description doesn't say: "collage/mix of photos".

If you don't write it you are deceiving the agency and the buyer.

Mifornia · « **Reply #978 on:** October 08, 2024, 10:49 »

Quote from: cobalt on October 08, 2024, 07:17

@mifornia

Your experience is what has me terrified. If good files now only have one good season and cannot become reliable longterm sellers, then my job is toast.

Building reliable income needs longterm income.

So, we will see what happens.

I truly hope that my experience is not a reflection of things to come. I’ll be curious to see if your last year Christmas bestsellers will sell well this year.
May be Adobe’s search engine changed to focus on newer images and fade out the older ones.

I attached my year’s screenshot before, but here is another one. You can see that my sales are 1/3 of last season. Last summer I was on Weekly Best Sellers several times. This summer, crickets

cobalt · « **Reply #979 on:** October 08, 2024, 10:53 »

The buyers are designers, they know that.

How long habe you been doing stock? Commercial images are heavily manipulated for maximum effect, always have been.

If you want „real“, you buy editorial.

Same for designers using images in their output, if it is not editorial, it is always assumed it is manipulated. The designers themselves often create composite images by combining many files.

That is what advertising and marketing is, make believe and utterly fake and people love to buy products and services advertised that way.

If customers reacted well to editorial images, then designers would use only that.

Ai is nothing new, it just gives „photoshop skills“ to people who have no professional training in photoshop or illustrator.

Everything you do with ai you can also do manually with photoshop.

cobalt · « **Reply #980 on:** October 08, 2024, 10:58 »

@mifornia

that looks truly terrible, I am so sorry.

so far this year has been consistent that every month is roughly double of the same month last year at Adobe.

But we will if this is also true for the last 3 months.

I am beginning to see a lot of my files having close copies. I don‘t know how much that is affecting my sales.

Perhaps that is something Adobe can influence by giving a slight nudge to the original files, not the copies.

I have added a lot of content also non seasonal content, longterm I want to break this dependence on holiday or winter images.

I am especially trying to do more with people.

Also starting to do more normal photos and videos with camera, also for other agencies.

I will update you how it goes.

mike123 · « **Reply #981 on:** October 08, 2024, 11:23 »

Quote from: mike123 on October 07, 2024, 04:07

Pos 3450 - probably my best rank ever .
(Screenshot from Monday morning - thus so few downloads)

Broke my own record from yesterday - position 3330 today

.
Nice amount of downloads, but the earnings are pathetic.

PigsInSpace · « **Reply #982 on:** October 08, 2024, 13:38 »

Quote from: Bauman on October 08, 2024, 08:06

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I mostly take landscape and travel photos and I'm seeing in the AI images places that don't exist, but in the description I read: Santorini, Tuscany, Paris, Dolomites, Normandy ...

Would you buy a travel guide with these photos of fake places?

As far as I'm concerned, I may have removed an electrical cable or a branch, I may have saturated the colors a bit, but the place is that.

Just as it can be dangerous to show perfect models that do not exist in reality.

I have also seen AI generated landscapes on AS. I don’t get the allure unless the sellers are trying to fool people. I’ve been to that place, I know it doesn’t look like that, although it’s somewhat closeish.

cobalt · « **Reply #983 on:** October 09, 2024, 02:48 »

Not imagening it, I am going down in the main buying season.

pos 3810, files 6400

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #984 on:** October 09, 2024, 07:15 »

Quote from: cobalt on October 09, 2024, 02:48

Not imagening it, I am going down in the main buying season.

pos 3810, files 6400

East indian spammers madly clicking buttons to submit AI stuff...

cobalt · « **Reply #985 on:** October 09, 2024, 07:25 »

I don't think so, this is too abrupt.

I also find my files in good search positions.

No, I wonder if this is an algo shake up, or maybe euro files get less visibility in us time zone.

The good thing is, they will change it around again.

The variety of content selling is good, also nearly every day a file gets the first sale.

Just the volume is much lower than I would expect it for this time of year.

Pacesetter · « **Reply #986 on:** October 10, 2024, 18:21 »

Having my worst week in a long time on Adobe Stock following two strong weeks of earnings as t̶h̶e̶ ̶a̶l̶g̶o̶r̶i̶t̶h̶m̶ d̶o̶es ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶e̶v̶e̶r̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶t̶a̶k̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶k̶e̶e̶p̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶s̶a̶l̶e̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶i̶n̶ ̶a̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶d̶e̶t̶e̶r̶m̶i̶n̶e̶d̶ ̶r̶a̶n̶g̶e̶ ̶ customers collectively just stop buying.

cobalt · « **Reply #987 on:** October 11, 2024, 02:52 »

My rank went down to 3900, yesterday it picked up a bit, now at 3400.

The variety of files sold is very good, also had 4 first time sales yesterday.

Just the volume is much lower than I would expect for this time of year. I was hoping to have a rank around 2800 or higher by now.

My test searches find my files in good positions, but they are often different files. Also the files surrounding mine look different.

Looks like a larger algo mix up.

---

The adobe discord group also has several people noticing unusually low sales day

so we are not alone or imagining it

today asia and europe already gave me 23 downloads including 3 first downloads.

I hope next week will see the rise I am expecting.

mike123 · « **Reply #988 on:** October 11, 2024, 08:09 »

I've got a bit more downloads than usual this week. I don't sell AI, only photos. So, maybe only AI images were affected this week

cobalt · « **Reply #989 on:** October 11, 2024, 09:36 »

maybe that is what the algos did, a remix in favor of more normal photos

i am also taking fresh photos and videos again, so that should help with balance longterm

cobalt · « **Reply #990 on:** October 12, 2024, 04:52 »

Ok, yesterday I had 40 downloads and my rank recovered to 3100. I hope that next week I will start to see the start of the winter season.

For production I am focussing on spring and also started with summer. Also trying to do a lot more people from different genres. Experimenting with many different smaller niches to see what is interesting.

Inspections are quite a reasonable mix, some files get accepted really fast, then the rest might take weeks in the queue. But I think this is a good system, if at least a few files from a series make it in quickly they can start to leave footprints in the algos.

Uploading every day, trying to increase volume, but usually end up with around 80 files a week. Hope I can raise it to a reliable 100 week including video. But it is not easy, I also need a lot of time for research. Acceptance is close to 100%, downsizing ai files to around 6-8 MP has worked like a magic trick.

files 6450

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #991 on:** October 12, 2024, 21:14 »

Quote from: cobalt on October 12, 2024, 04:52

Ok, yesterday I had 40 downloads and my rank recovered to 3100. I hope that next week I will start to see the start of the winter season.

For production I am focussing on spring and also started with summer. Also trying to do a lot more people from different genres. Experimenting with many different smaller niches to see what is interesting.

Inspections are quite a reasonable mix, some files get accepted really fast, then the rest might take weeks in the queue. But I think this is a good system, if at least a few files from a series make it in quickly they can start to leave footprints in the algos.

Uploading every day, trying to increase volume, but usually end up with around 80 files a week. Hope I can raise it to a reliable 100 week including video. But it is not easy, I also need a lot of time for research. Acceptance is close to 100%, downsizing ai files to around 6-8 MP has worked like a magic trick.

files 6450

Cool. Was that 40 downloads of a single image that just caught on? Or - all together?

cobalt · « **Reply #992 on:** October 13, 2024, 03:21 »

all together, it is really spread out over many different genres

I have less individual bestsellers than last year, which I think is a good thing.

But some bestsellers from last year are also beginning to sell, I am curious to see how they do

I hope they stay relevant, a good bestseller can give income over more than 10 years. Actually have files from 2005 that still sell, especially on istock. Which is amazing actually.

eta

looks like this might be my best week this year

Sebastian Radu · « **Reply #993 on:** October 13, 2024, 05:18 »

Very disappointed...

13.10.2023 - 9.697 files (this week position) 2.890 / (life time position) 11.500
13.10.2024 - 11.817 files (this week position) 16.350 / (life time position) 10.200

And sales have also fallen continuously.

$:-\$

cobalt · « **Reply #994 on:** October 13, 2024, 07:24 »

That is indeed a very drastic drop. And you were uploading.

Has your niche been flooded with copycat files?

Or have your bestseller files many direct copies?

Sebastian Radu · « **Reply #995 on:** October 13, 2024, 07:42 »

Quote from: cobalt on October 13, 2024, 07:24

That is indeed a very drastic drop. And you were uploading.

Has your niche been flooded with copycat files?

Or have your bestseller files many direct copies?

Hi Cobalt

Good question.
I'll do a little research and see what I find.
What I can say is that a few months ago I found many stolen pictures of mine. I reported those accounts and they were shut down.
I don't understand why Adobe doesn't check to see if the same image has been uploaded by someone else.

Anyway, the point is that we have to be very vigilant.

cobalt · « **Reply #996 on:** October 13, 2024, 09:15 »

I hope your research gives you good insights.

What I have found is that sometimes my new files for a genre just replace the sales of the older files, they do not always increase sales overall.

So in my case I have for instance a lot of easter eggs with flowers. But to increase sales I might need to add easter chocolate or families and easter. Something I was not offering before.

Or maybe purple easter eggs with green dots or yellow stripes, something a little different, that will not compete with my existing content.

And then of course I expand into new genres. This year mostly into illustrations, now I am trying to do timeless people or non seasonal content.

Perhaps check if your new uploads are different enough from what you have and you are not cannibalising your own sales.

But copycats is the biggest risk.

Uncle Pete · « **Reply #997 on:** October 13, 2024, 10:54 »

Quote from: Sebastian Radu on October 13, 2024, 05:18

Very disappointed...

13.10.2023 - 9.697 files (this week position) 2.890 / (life time position) 11.500
13.10.2024 - 11.817 files (this week position) 16.350 / (life time position) 10.200

And sales have also fallen continuously.

$:-\$

Don't be disappointed, the number means nothing and if the story and what we believe is true, it's only counting downloads. Of course the part that makes that confusing is, two people with identical numbers have different position. It Is Not Rank. Also two people with different DL numbers have the identical position.

In other words, you already know your sales have dropped and that's why your position has dropped. Nothing else matters. More sales, you get a "better" position number. Nothing but bragging rights.

pires128 · « **Reply #998 on:** October 14, 2024, 08:03 »

took 3 days off to travel from friday to sunday. this monday morning when i came back and checked last week results, i saw my portfolio on my best weekly rank ever! super happy.

(screenshot from monday 9am)

edit:
last week data
$ 138,71 | DL 219

cobalt · « **Reply #999 on:** October 14, 2024, 08:54 »

Fantastic result, congrats!

My goal was to reach around 200 files a week by mid October. Didn't quite make it, last week was 167 downloads.

Sunday was unusual with 12 downloads.

Moved up a bit again.

pos 2920, 6470 files

By end of October I hope to reach 230-250 downloads a week. Let's see if that works. Overall I hope to again double of what I earned last year this month. However at the moment I am on track to earn around 50% more. So there needs to be quite an uptake in the next 2 weeks.

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