Author Topic: What's your weekly ranking and how many images? (Read 85365 times)

JustAnImage · « **Reply #625 on:** July 07, 2024, 18:57 »

@blvdone
Thanks for your chart - as you can see this crash is not present for everyone.
I've seen a few charts from different people over the last few months and about 35% have the same trend as me.
A few are clearly going up and about 50% have a "normal" straight trend.

This has nothing to do with a conspiracy, but the effect is measurable and occurs in a good third of the measurement results so far

blvdone · « **Reply #626 on:** July 07, 2024, 19:38 »

Quote from: JustAnImage on July 07, 2024, 18:57

@blvdone
Thanks for your chart - as you can see this crash is not present for everyone.
I've seen a few charts from different people over the last few months and about 35% have the same trend as me.
A few are clearly going up and about 50% have a "normal" straight trend.

This has nothing to do with a conspiracy, but the effect is measurable and occurs in a good third of the measurement results so far

That may just explain it's totally random and normal. I bet $1 your sales wont be zero after October for good.

cascoly · « **Reply #627 on:** July 07, 2024, 19:42 »

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cobalt · « **Reply #628 on:** July 08, 2024, 01:37 »

@justanimage

How much content do you have for the summer season? I usually have quite a slowdown for July/August.

Creating and uploading nearly 40 files a day is an incredible achievement!! I am trying very hard to reach a reliable 20 a day, but don't always manage to do that.

I am sure your port will pick up again in autumn.

Just keep producing, your content needs time to be discovered. The real uptick will be next year.

This year I added more summer autumn july 4th content and it has certainy helped.

JustAnImage · « **Reply #629 on:** July 08, 2024, 05:18 »

Quote from: blvdone on July 07, 2024, 19:38

That may just explain it's totally random and normal. I bet $1 your sales wont be zero after October for good.

I wouldn't bet against it :-)
The 0 sales in October are based on the assumption of a linear trend, which is probably not the case for stocks with many seasonal components.
With a time series analysis taking into account seasonal and annual trends, the forecast for October is around 24 weekly downloads - sorry if that was a bit too much maths ;-)

Quote from: cobalt on July 08, 2024, 01:37

@justanimage
How much content do you have for the summer season? I usually have quite a slowdown for July/August.
Creating and uploading nearly 40 files a day is an incredible achievement!! I am trying very hard to reach a reliable 20 a day, but don't always manage to do that.

I've already asked myself the question about the seasonal component and searched my portfolio for "Summer Season":
(Sorry for the long link)
https://stock.adobe.com/de/search?creator_id=208268331&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aphoto%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aillustration%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Azip_vector%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Avideo%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Atemplate%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3A3d%5D=1&filters%5Bfetch_excluded_assets%5D=1&filters%5Bcontent_type%3Aimage%5D=1&order=relevance&safe_search=1&k=summer+season&limit=100&search_page=3&search_type=pagination&acp=&aco=summer+season&get_facets=0

There would actually be enough available - but I'll stay on the ball :-)
Since the collapse at the end of March, I've had around 3,700 new files accepted - the latest 700 of those have so far totalled generated exactly 1 sale.
It really seems to be the case now that new material takes forever (even after the successful review) to reach the customer.

I don't want to spread any wild theories here either, but as a mathematician I can clearly say that there are factors here that are clearly measurable and are far beyond our sphere of influence - no matter how much you upload and produce.

cobalt · « **Reply #630 on:** July 08, 2024, 07:11 »

Are the 700 files added from a theme that you are known for, or is it a new theme?

I am asking because I saw an artist that usually has great people image in the port adding 400 easter files and being disappointed in getting just one sale. The files were fine, but they were brandnew and he has no track record in the algos for easter.

The preruntime for seasonal content, at least for me, is 9-12 months.

They should have been uploaded last September, at least the best files that you are hoping to become bestsellers.

I am sure your files will sell, but I think you are underestimating how long it takes for customers to pick them up and use them.

Unless you are doing something totally unique, with all the competition flooding in, timing becomes much more crucial.

Which specific customer group are you targeting for summer? Because I couldn't really identify the target. It is a big mix.

Personally I like to build around distinct buyer groups. Maybe something to pay more attention to. "families at the beach from around the world", "all the summer food of mexico", "1000 images of people camping", maybe even targeting specific holiday regions. camp sites in france look different to brasil, look different to montana...

Content grouped so they can tell a story together. You don't have to upload them at the same time, customers recognize the story pretty quickly when they do a search.

But your files will probably do well next year.

My summer was better this year, at least so far. Let's see what August looks like.

For me the most important new content is people, but it is very hard work.

And as I don't have a track record in the algos, I know it will take much longer to get good sales than uploading another easter egg..

But you are working very hard, I think you just might need to take a little break, analyse the results more carefully and check out the competition.

But you will do well, I am not worried

eta

love your people content!

hope to reach that quality soon.

JustAnImage · « **Reply #631 on:** July 08, 2024, 07:41 »

Thank you for all the suggestions and encouragement :-)

Let's see what I can integrate into my workflow, which is currently designed for speed.

Perhaps working on a theme-specific basis would be a really good option - at the moment, for example, I simply go through the list of the world's public holidays for the year and work down the list - this is then uploaded as appropriate as possible (the review times are no longer predictable at all), i.e. Easter images are currently uploaded before Christmas ;-)

In fact, the "people" pictures don't sell as well as I'd hoped (I just do whatever comes into my head) - the concept pictures on other themes do better on average.

cobalt · « **Reply #632 on:** July 08, 2024, 07:50 »

Going down a list of world holidays is a very good way to get into seasonal themes.

But you need at least 12 months to see which holiday is the one customers like to buy content from you. Then once you have these results, you can then create more specific content.

You also have to keep watching the competition and do something that is DIFFERENT or not yet done by them. Don‘t copy the bestsellers, try something new.

Customers are so tired of the endless duplicates.

So it is a good strategy, but it is 3 year plan at minimum

Your people are great, perhaps also here it might be worth looking at developing a specific theme and adding 3000 files.

If young women at the beach are your bestsellers, then do 3000 of them from around the world, different ethnicities, different locations, doing very different things - surfing, enjoying a cocktail, playing volleyball, sunbathing and applying lotion, reading, making influencer videos…also travel, holiday vacation, packing the bag, taking the plane, taxi, bus, tuktuk…etc…

It is is happy kids, explore the back to school theme, even if it is already late, but with a wild mix diverse groups depending on the country your customers are from…

You have the quality, I think you just need to spend a little more time on strategy.

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pos 3690, now 5380 files

JustAnImage · « **Reply #633 on:** July 08, 2024, 12:30 »

@Cobalt
Thank you for all the tips - let's see how I can get this into my workflow and into my "stubborn head" :-)

Fortunately, I don't copy the bestsellers - that never helps because they are already at the top of the search results. The most you would do is collect a few "crumbs" left and right.

I just hope that the trend will reverse at some point, because before that it was going very well for months and since the end of March it has been falling rapidly - the effect is definitely real.
We will know whether this is a seasonal effect (for me and many others at the moment) by next season at the latest.

Feel free to turn the dials again AS, then maybe things will get better for some ;-)

stocky · « **Reply #634 on:** July 08, 2024, 13:41 »

My weekly ranking went up a bit after the $5 Free images accepted.

cobalt · « **Reply #635 on:** July 08, 2024, 14:39 »

Congrats! You must be the head of this leaderboard!

Stocky royalty!

@justanimage

You could also benefit from taking a break with Adobe and focussing on other agencies for a while, or especially on video.

It lessens the dependency and can give you a better perspective and fresh ideas.

Mifornia · « **Reply #636 on:** July 08, 2024, 16:46 »

Congrats Stocky! how many years you’ve been doing stock and re you a singe contributor or a business?

Mifornia · « **Reply #637 on:** July 08, 2024, 17:17 »

Thank you for feedback Cobalt, it’s fun to see that variety of different scenarios are possible

Injustice for all · « **Reply #638 on:** July 08, 2024, 19:00 »

Quote from: JustAnImage on July 07, 2024, 18:57

@blvdone
Thanks for your chart - as you can see this crash is not present for everyone.
I've seen a few charts from different people over the last few months and about 35% have the same trend as me.
A few are clearly going up and about 50% have a "normal" straight trend.

This has nothing to do with a conspiracy, but the effect is measurable and occurs in a good third of the measurement results so far

I'm probably in that 50% you say.

my trend is slightly upwards,but really slightly,in fact the 25% higher number of sales in June 2024 compared to June 2023 proves it,it's not much if you consider that an extra year has passed,but I guess it could be worse!

lately,Mondays are dead and strangely I sell more on weekends even more than Wednesday and Thursday,most weeks it's like this for me now.

I hope for a clearer improvement,I will evaluate in September,October and November.

for the moment I'm where I need to be,I'm halfway to last year's number of sales,considering a slight percentage increase over each month,I should end the year with more sales than last year.

Pacesetter · « **Reply #639 on:** July 08, 2024, 21:22 »

What is really damaging to my port performance is the RPD decline. I'm not a high-volume seller but been making comfortably over $100 each week - that is until the past week and half. You can also see some downward trend on the attached trend line from 1 Jan to 9 July 2024. Too early to tell if this is perennial or temporal.

stocky · « **Reply #640 on:** July 08, 2024, 21:26 »

Quote from: Mifornia on July 08, 2024, 16:46

Congrats Stocky! how many years you’ve been doing stock and re you a singe contributor or a business?

Thanks! Decades

sole operator.

Mifornia · « **Reply #641 on:** July 08, 2024, 22:10 »

Quote from: stocky on July 08, 2024, 21:26

Quote from: Mifornia on July 08, 2024, 16:46
Congrats Stocky! how many years you’ve been doing stock and re you a singe contributor or a business?

Thanks! Decades sole operator.

That is so impressive! What an achievement to do it all by yourself!
How much time per week do you spend on stock?

SuperPhoto · « **Reply #642 on:** July 09, 2024, 00:53 »

Quote from: stocky on July 08, 2024, 21:26

Quote from: Mifornia on July 08, 2024, 16:46
Congrats Stocky! how many years you’ve been doing stock and re you a singe contributor or a business?

Thanks! Decades sole operator.

What is revenue like @ 161st position? Are you doing $10k+/month?

HalfFull · « **Reply #643 on:** July 09, 2024, 02:43 »

Quote from: SuperPhoto on July 09, 2024, 00:53

Quote from: stocky on July 08, 2024, 21:26
Quote from: Mifornia on July 08, 2024, 16:46
Congrats Stocky! how many years you’ve been doing stock and re you a singe contributor or a business?

Thanks! Decades sole operator.

What is revenue like @ 161st position? Are you doing $10k+/month?

I can't comment for Stocky but when I'm at the 100 - 200 weekly rank it's no where near $10k per month but I only do images with a small amount of footage. I probably hit a max of $3500 - $4500 a month at that point. If you mainly supply footage with a 100-200 rank then I could imagine 10k+ per month.

For me, I have a quiet spell at this time of year and drop to about 850 weekly rank. Thankfully it only lasts a short spell before improving.

cobalt · « **Reply #644 on:** July 09, 2024, 02:53 »

That is very valuable information, thank you

It gives those of us planning a full time stock income a good guidance

Of course Adobe is not the only agency, but it is the most important and gives very reliable income

Injustice for all · « **Reply #645 on:** July 09, 2024, 04:43 »

Quote from: Pacesetter on July 08, 2024, 21:22

What is really damaging to my port performance is the RPD decline. I'm not a high-volume seller but been making comfortably over $100 each week - that is until the past week and half. You can also see some downward trend on the attached trend line from 1 Jan to 9 July 2024. Too early to tell if this is perennial or temporal.

my RPD is good.

1.13 for June,it's not stellar,but it's okay.

what's not so good is the number of sales,it's barely acceptable,it's too static,it should be at least 50% more given my current portfolio,but above all it's been too long now that I always go around the same sales numbers.

for the moment I will continue to work with my head down,but I need to see an improvement in this sales number at least from September.

Injustice for all · « **Reply #646 on:** July 09, 2024, 04:45 »

Quote from: stocky on July 08, 2024, 13:41

My weekly ranking went up a bit after the $5 Free images accepted.

you are not human!

It must be a great satisfaction,congratulations!

pancaketom · « **Reply #647 on:** July 09, 2024, 13:03 »

Quote from: Injustice for all on July 08, 2024, 19:00

Quote from: JustAnImage on July 07, 2024, 18:57
@blvdone
Thanks for your chart - as you can see this crash is not present for everyone.
I've seen a few charts from different people over the last few months and about 35% have the same trend as me.
A few are clearly going up and about 50% have a "normal" straight trend.

This has nothing to do with a conspiracy, but the effect is measurable and occurs in a good third of the measurement results so far

I'm probably in that 50% you say.

my trend is slightly upwards,but really slightly,in fact the 25% higher number of sales in June 2024 compared to June 2023 proves it,it's not much if you consider that an extra year has passed,but I guess it could be worse!

lately,Mondays are dead and strangely I sell more on weekends even more than Wednesday and Thursday,most weeks it's like this for me now.

I hope for a clearer improvement,I will evaluate in September,October and November.

for the moment I'm where I need to be,I'm halfway to last year's number of sales,considering a slight percentage increase over each month,I should end the year with more sales than last year.

I too have noticed some weird no or very low sales days mid week - that used to be very rare, now often one of the weekend days is better than one or 2 of the weekdays.

Dreamstime used to have some sort of system where they rotated the visibility of portfolios somehow - so a few days of sales followed by a few days of no sales. It almost seems like Adobe is doing something like that.

cobalt · « **Reply #648 on:** July 09, 2024, 14:45 »

What I have noticed is that when I do my test searches, I often still get for instance 3 images on page 1 of that search, but they change more often.

So a proven bestseller might be replaced by more recent image. But perhaps it is not as good and doesn't get as many sales.

Then on a different day the proven bestsellers are back in that search.

Perhaps this is what is happening, they want to give customers a fresher experience and keep rotating files.

Longtime that is probably not bad, it leads to a wider exposure of the enture portfolio.

It might even lessen the dependance on indivdual bestsellers.

I certainly wouldn't mind having a wider sell through rate.

stocky · « **Reply #649 on:** July 09, 2024, 15:50 »

Quote from: Mifornia on July 08, 2024, 22:10

Quote from: stocky on July 08, 2024, 21:26
Quote from: Mifornia on July 08, 2024, 16:46
Congrats Stocky! how many years you’ve been doing stock and re you a singe contributor or a business?

Thanks! Decades sole operator.

That is so impressive! What an achievement to do it all by yourself!
How much time per week do you spend on stock?

Thanks. At one point I was working til midnight then getting back up at 3. Crazy! Now I work smart, not hard

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