Quote from: Tatius on August 10, 2022, 20:16

Hello. How will PNG files with white objects be displayed? For example snowflakes.

Content will not be differentiated based on color. The background will be white.

Thanks,

Mat Hayward

Mat, a suggestion. It might be more useful or user friendly if the transparent background displayed as a grey checkerboard, similar to the way Photoshop would show "transparency".

Quote from: Tatius on August 10, 2022, 20:16

Hello. How will PNG files with white objects be displayed? For example snowflakes.

Content will not be differentiated based on color. The background will be white.

If you look at how Adobe Stock displays 3D content - with a gray background with a perspective grid to show the surface on which the object sits - that approach allows display of everything clearly, both the objects and the transparency. Couldn't something similar to that work for PNGs?

On the Mac, if you view (in the Finder) a PNG file, it has a nice semi-transparent gray background. In Photoshop, you see the checkerboard background to indicate transparency. There are probably other examples already out there.

Seems a shame to obliterate white transparent objects by putting everything in a PNG on a white background...

Jo Ann, did you see Mat's response to my post just above yours? Apparently they will have a Photoshop style checkerboard for the transparent background.

Oops - missed that. But it's great news it will show transparency

I haven't submitted there in a while, but when I used to submit PNGs with a transparent background to Canva they wanted a jpeg of the file with the metadata.  Not sure if they still do that.  Is there a way to include metadata with a PNG or will it need to be added manually?  If I understand this thread correctly, we can now go ahead and submit those PNGs to Adobe even if the jpeg was accepted long ago, but in the future should only submit the PNG and it will be converted to jpeg.  If that is the case then I have quite a few PNGs that could be submitted right away.  I got into Canva pretty early and am glad I did because I make more there than anywhere else.  I assume Adobe wants a piece of that action which will be a good move for them.

Thank you for your answers and suggestions.

Hi Matt, I�m uploading PNGs through lightroom but they are showing up as jpegs on the contributor portal, should I not use the lightroom uploader for PNG files? Thanks

Hi Matt, I�m uploading PNGs through lightroom but they are showing up as jpegs on the contributor portal, should I not use the lightroom uploader for PNG files? Thanks

This is a good question. If you see JPEG under the recent upload in the dashboard section then no, should not use LRC to upload the PNG. I'm not 100% on this, but I have a strong suspicion this will be the case. Try uploading direct in the portal to see the difference in the dashboard. Thanks for this question. If I learn differently, I'll be sure to update here.

-Mat Hayward

Thanks for the updates on the new feature Mat...but it is Saturday... surely you're allowed to take a break from work?!?!  I think you've earned a pint or two...

I got into Canva pretty early and am glad I did because I make more there than anywhere else. 

Yep, same here.

 

I got into Canva pretty early and am glad I did because I make more there than anywhere else. 

Yep, same here.  Canva is close to my SS sales each month and about 3x AS

Quote from: Firn on August 15, 2022, 07:24

Mat, something just occured to me - I submitted some png files and today one of them was sold. But if these images are now not sold as transparent pngs, but jpgs to the customers, isn't it highly misleading to them, when they have "transparent" in title and keywors? At least the keyword "transparent" is automatically filled in by adobe when submitting a png file. Wouldn't it be better to hide them from customers alltogether, till Adobe is ready to launch them as pngs instead of selling them as jpgs while claiming they were transparent?

That's exactly how it is with me, Firn. I have uploaded a few png files - online since two days. The same images are also available in my portfolio as jpg with white background. And now the first of the png images has been sold.

I too see the danger that buyers might feel fooled when they realize that the images are not clipped at all.

Mat, what do the buyers actually get? A jpg or a png?

For now, these files are only available as JPG on the customer facing site. Once the feature is launched, they can download PNG files.

Thank you for the feedback,

Mat

Quote from: Wilm on August 16, 2022, 10:30

Quote from: Firn on August 15, 2022, 07:24

Mat, something just occured to me - I submitted some png files and today one of them was sold. But if these images are now not sold as transparent pngs, but jpgs to the customers, isn't it highly misleading to them, when they have "transparent" in title and keywors? At least the keyword "transparent" is automatically filled in by adobe when submitting a png file. Wouldn't it be better to hide them from customers alltogether, till Adobe is ready to launch them as pngs instead of selling them as jpgs while claiming they were transparent?

That's exactly how it is with me, Firn. I have uploaded a few png files - online since two days. The same images are also available in my portfolio as jpg with white background. And now the first of the png images has been sold.

I too see the danger that buyers might feel fooled when they realize that the images are not clipped at all.

Mat, what do the buyers actually get? A jpg or a png?

For now, these files are only available as JPG on the customer facing site. Once the feature is launched, they can download PNG files.

Thank you for the feedback,

Mat

Thanks for this... noticed that they were showing as jpg on the customer side but PNG on my portfolio.

I presume this won't have a negative impact on the actual jpgs files that exist already. It wouldn't be ideal if the jpgs to competed with the already established successful files. Do we have an approx time scale in terms of when the PNG service will be activated?

Thanks

Quote from: Wilm on August 16, 2022, 10:30

Quote from: Firn on August 15, 2022, 07:24

Mat, something just occured to me - I submitted some png files and today one of them was sold. But if these images are now not sold as transparent pngs, but jpgs to the customers, isn't it highly misleading to them, when they have "transparent" in title and keywors? At least the keyword "transparent" is automatically filled in by adobe when submitting a png file. Wouldn't it be better to hide them from customers alltogether, till Adobe is ready to launch them as pngs instead of selling them as jpgs while claiming they were transparent?

That's exactly how it is with me, Firn. I have uploaded a few png files - online since two days. The same images are also available in my portfolio as jpg with white background. And now the first of the png images has been sold.

I too see the danger that buyers might feel fooled when they realize that the images are not clipped at all.

Mat, what do the buyers actually get? A jpg or a png?

For now, these files are only available as JPG on the customer facing site. Once the feature is launched, they can download PNG files.

Thank you for the feedback,

Mat

But why are they advertised as transparent to customers?